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October 7, 2015 at 10:41 am #31911znModerator
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jrry32
I thought I’d point out that despite our youth on the OL and Foles adjusting to a new system, we’re tied for 7th in the NFL in fewest sacks allowed after the first quarter of the season with 6 and we’re 9th according to footballoutsiders in their adjusted sack rate at 4.8%.
That’s not too shabby. The Packers have one of the best pass rushes in the NFL this year. They’re still #2 in the NFL in sacks. Tied with us (but we’ve played better OLs). So it’ll be interesting to see how the OL holds up but it’s crazy to think that our OL is this young and could end getting MUCH better.
Here’s hoping the run blocking continues to function like it did in the 2nd half vs. Arizona.
October 7, 2015 at 10:45 am #31912znModeratorfrom off the net
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Elmgrovegnome
Green Bay stats vs Rams
Green Bay 31 @ Bears 23
Green Bay 27 Seahawks 17
Green Bay 38 Chiefs 28
Green Bay 17@ 49ers 3Rams 34 Seahawks 31
Rams 10 @Redskins 24
Rams 6 Steelers 12
Rams 24 @Cardinals 22In comparison the only common game they have is Seattle. The Rams put more points on the Seahawks but didn’t hold them to as many. Green Bay put up a lot of points against the Chiefs is notable. Only putting up 17 on San Francisco is too. Injuries are hurting them. So is it possible that the last game will be more indicative of what their current offensive situation is?
Packers offense 28.2 pts a game
Rams offense 18.5 and improvingPackers defense 17.8 pts a game
Rams defense 22 pts per gameThis stat does not look good unless you consider that the 49ers game skews the stat. If the Niners score at least 18 it would have brought GB up to 21.5
Right now Green Bay is looking better on both O and DTurnover differentlial goes to GB too at 4. St.Louis is at 2. Green Bay rarely turns the ball over. Hopefully that is because they only played one two good defenses and one played poorly against them.
I would feel better if this game was at home but if the Rams could somehow win this game and make it two tough teams on the road I would be estatic and it would be a huge jump in maturity. They would suddenly look like a real contender and have a great bye week record at 3-2.
October 7, 2015 at 10:50 am #31913znModeratorPackers’ Next Opponent: St. Louis Rams scouting report
Green Bay — Under coach Jeff Fisher, the St. Louis Rams have won as a 9-point underdog against Denver in 2014, as a 7 ½-point underdog at Indianapolis in 2013 and as a 7-point underdog Sunday in Arizona.
Now Fisher’s Rams would be able to top those upsets, at least on paper, with a victory Sunday over the unbeaten Green Bay Packers at Lambeau Field. The Packers are favored by 9 ½.
“St. Louis, 23-20,” said an executive in personnel for an AFC team. “Because the Rams can get to Aaron Rodgers with their front four and their secondary has good coverage ability. The Rams also have plenty of playmakers to be productive running and passing.”
The Rams’ formidable rush was the reason a pair of assistant coaches for teams that played St. Louis forecast a close game that will be won by the Packers, 17-10.
“Anybody that thinks St. Louis is easy…if you’ve got a defensive line like they’ve got, if you just don’t beat yourselves, you’ve got a chance to be in every game,” one coach said. “You’ve never seen a front like these guys.
“Despite Aaron Rodgers and all that crew, I’m going to say it’s not going to be a high-scoring game. The Rams’ offense is nothing special but this running back is really good.”
Not quite 11 months removed from reconstructive knee surgery, Todd Gurley exploded in the second half for most of his 146 yards in 19 carries as the Rams beat the Cardinals, 24-22.
“Gurley’s going to make some yards if you don’t get him hemmed in, but I think the Packers will be able to do that pretty effectively,” the other coach said. “But I’ll tell you what. They’re going to have to do some pass blocking against that rushing line. They’re really good.”
A personnel man for an NFC club called for a 27-10 triumph for Green Bay.
“Gurley has star ability and, behind an average at best offensive line, will stress Green Bay a little early,” he said. “But St. Louis can’t consistently block Green Bay’s pressures and they don’t have a No. 1 wide receiver.
“Rodgers, with his quick release, mobility and command of the offense will make St. Louis’ D-line less effective. Green Bay’s receivers and tight end can take advantage of the Rams’ linebackers and average secondary.”
OFFENSE
Scheme
First-year coordinator Frank Cignetti, who coached QBs alongside Mike McCarthy in New Orleans from 2000-’01, calls the plays. The new zone-blocking run game focuses on getting the back at least to the hole. Cignetti uses bunch sets of receivers and tear sweeps featuring the exciting Tavon Austin. The Rams are tied for seventh in turnovers (four), 25th in points (18.5) and 32nd in yards (287.8).
Receivers
The return of Brian Quick (6-3 ½, 218) last week from a mid-2014 shoulder injury provides a fourth capable WR. The best probably is former Titan Kenny Britt (6-3, 223), the 30th pick in 2009. He has 34-inch arms, can get deep, is a gigantic target and runs hard after the catch. Austin (5-8 ½, 176), the eighth pick in ’13, has instant acceleration, a 40 time of 4.30 and stop-start quickness. The Rams use him like Seattle used Percy Harvin: slot, reverses, bubble screens, etc. Stedman Bailey (5-10, 193), a third-round pick in ’13, runs exquisite routes and catches everything. His speed, however, is average (4.53) and he’s too thin for heavy exposure inside. Quick, a second-round pick in ’12, finally was starting to emerge last year when injury struck. He remains big, fast and unrefined. Former Titans TE Jared Cook (6-4 ½, 254) runs extremely well, has 35 ¾ arms and stretches defenses vertically. His hands are shaky, however, and his blocking is marginal. Lance Kendricks (6-3, 250), who played at Milwaukee King and UW, is a four-year starter. He lacks some size and also will drop, but is athletic, catches consistently and runs about 4.6. TE-FB Cory Harkey (6-4, 259) lacks ball skills but gets after people as a point-of-attack blocker.
Offensive line
The leader, LT Greg Robinson (6-5, 332), is far from being a great player after being the No. 2 pick in the ’14 draft. He has long arms (35), strong hands and a mean streak. Just 22, he’s still learning how to play. His feet are good, not great. The other solid regular is RG Rodger Saffold (6-4 ½, 332), a second-round pick in ’10 whose six-year career as a starter has been interrupted frequently by injury. He still moves well and has the mass to anchor, but most guards are more physical. Two rookies, LG Jamon Brown (6-3 ½, 323) and RT Rob Havenstein (6-7 ½, 321), and C Tim Barnes (6-3 ½, 306) are first-year starters. Brown, a third-round pick, takes up space, has long arms (34 3/8) and is effective in close quarters. Barnes is smart, agile and strong enough but struggles getting up to the LB level and working in space. Havenstein, the former Badger drafted in the second round, is another mauler. So far, he has held up OK.
Quarterbacks
Nick Foles (6-5, 243), the Eagles’ third-round pick in ’12, started 25 games over three years, posting a 15-10 record and passer rating of 94.5. He was magnificent (rating of 149.5, 38 yards rushing) in Game 9 of 2013 when the Eagles won at Lambeau Field, 27-13. On March 10, coach Chip Kelly traded Foles plus second- and fourth-round picks to St. Louis for QB Sam Bradford and a No. 5 pick. After four starts, Foles ranks 15th at 96.5. His arm strength, touch and accuracy are adequate. He takes few chances and makes adequate decisions. He scored 29 on the Wonderlic intelligence test. His 40 time is a ponderous 5.1. Case Keenum (6-1, 205), who started 10 games for Houston in 2013-’14 (2-8, 76.8 rating) is No. 2. He has a weak arm but isn’t afraid to use it.
Running backs
Rookie Todd Gurley (6-0 ½, 227), the 10th pick, broke out Sunday in his second game since undergoing ACL surgery Nov. 15. He has breakaway speed, a downhill approach, tremendous body control and a workhorse mentality. He’s somewhat like a young Steven Jackson. Gurley played 36 of 53 snaps, leaving 15 for third-down back Benny Cunningham (5-9 ½, 217) and two for backup Tre Mason (5-8 ½, 207). Cunningham has excellent hands, probably handles the blitz better than Gurley and exudes toughness. Mason, a third-round pick in ’14, led the team in rushing (765, 4.3) last year. He’s quicker than fast.
DEFENSE
Scheme
Flamboyant Gregg Williams, a former head coach in Buffalo and coordinator for five other teams, rejoined Jeff Fisher in 2014. He believes in a pressure 4-3 defense that often employs just three linemen on passing downs. His base coverages in the first month have been off-man and Cover 2. The Rams rank 13th in points (22.3), tied for 13th in takeaways (six) and 16th in yards (355.5).
Defensive line
St. Louis is loaded with four first-round starters. Three-technique DT Aaron Donald (6-1, 290) and DE Robert Quinn (6-4, 264) might be the NFL’s best at their positions. Donald ran a phenomenal 4.66, has exceptional quickness off the ball, great balance, goes all-out all the time and knows how to finish. The best thing to do is run at him. Quinn, a right end only, is a remarkable athlete with 34-inch arms, 4.64 speed and an expanding repertoire of moves. No longer is he just speed. He’s working inside and power-rushing, too. NT Michael Brockers (6-5, 326), only 24, uses 35-inch arms to stack and shed effectively at the point. His rush isn’t bad, either. Chris Long (6-3, 268), the graybeard at 30, is smart (Wonderlic of 34), technically superior and tenacious. He rushes well with power or speed. Former Titan William Hayes (6-3, 278) has 25 sacks in 7½ seasons and is first off the bench. He wins mostly with power but can and will take an edge to the QB. Versatile Ethan Westbrooks (6-3 ½, 267), a rookie free agent in ’14, isn’t sound against the run but don’t sleep on him. He’s a tough, long-armed, natural rusher. Former Lions DT Nick Fairley (6-4, 308) is just 27, but injuries and weight issues appear to have robbed him of his physical edge.
Linebackers
The Rams took a major hit Sunday when WLB Alec Ogletree suffered a broken ankle. He played every snap, had 24 more tackles than any other Ram and was extremely valuable given his terrific speed. It means that SLB Akeem Ayers (6-2 ½, 255), who is averaging just 16.8 snaps, must replace Ogletree. A former Titan-Patriot, Ayers is a fluid athlete with 4.75 speed and rush skill. Hard-hitting Jo-Lonn Dunbar (6-0 ½, 235), a productive 63-game starter for the Saints and Rams from 2008-’14, was re-signed Tuesday. He knows the system and might start at SLB. MLB James Laurinaitis (6-2, 248), a durable seven-year starter, runs the defense, competes hard and never leaves the field. He isn’t a lusty hitter but gets people down and is a big-play threat.
Secondary
It’s possible that SS Mark Barron (6-1, 217), drafted No. 7 by Tampa Bay in ’12, will take many of Ogletree’s snaps in nickel. He’s small to handle a steady diet of Eddie Lacy but he is tough, physical and knows his way around the box. The Bucs traded Barron last October because his speed wasn’t conducive for playing off the hashes. Williams has always had a hybrid player to blitz, cover and tackle. SS T.J. McDonald (6-2 ½, 217), a third-round pick in ’13, is a reckless hitter who is slower than Barron and must play near the line. He gets exposed in space. Improving FS Rodney McLeod (5-9 ½, 195), a three-year starter, was an undrafted free agent. He’s undersized and runs just 4.60, but his range seems better and his game is approaching respectability. RC Janoris Jenkins (5-10, 198), a second-round pick in ’12, is a gifted cover man with 4.43 speed. His keen instincts can lead to big plays or big mistakes. LC Trumaine Johnson (6-2, 208), a third-round pick in ’12, tries to intimidate receivers downfield. He runs just 4.55, will short-circuit and tries to tackle high. No. 3 CB Lemarcus Joyner (5-8, 184), a second-round pick in ’14, is smart and tough in the slot but isn’t sudden.
Special teams
K Greg Zuerlein, a four-year regular, has a big leg and is solid. P Johnny Hekker, another four-year regular, made the Pro Bowl in ’13 and is off to another fine start for fourth-year coordinator John Fassel. Tavon Austin can be dynamite on punt returns. Benny Cunningham is a power runner on kickoffs. LB Daren Bates, Joyner and Barron excel.
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GAME-BREAKER
When West Virginia’s Tavon Austin entered the draft in 2013, he was compared by some scouts to Reggie Bush and Randall Cobb. Primarily a wide receiver, he rushed for 344 yards against Oklahoma in 2012. Austin scored four rushing TDs, three receiving TDs and two returning TDs in 28 games during his first pro two seasons. His impact seems to have increased this year judged by the four he’s scored in the first four games. On Sunday, he caught a pair of 12-yard TD passes in posting the second-best receiving game (six for 96) of his career. In the opener, he returned a punt 75 yards for a TD against Seattle.
WEAKEST LINK
When the season started the Rams had by far the least experienced offensive line in the league. Their five starters had just 72 starts: 60 for RG Rodger Saffold, 12 for LT Greg Robinson and four for C Tim Barnes. In contrast, the Packers’ starters had 287 starts under their belts, including playoffs; one of their backups, Don Barclay, had 21. Under Paul Boudreau, an O-line coach with 29 years of NFL experience for seven teams, the Rams rank 16th in sack percentage (six allowed) and second in yards per rush (4.55). The unit won’t wow anyone with its talent, but so far it has been at least functional.
McGINN’S VIEW
Few NFL coaches know more about the game’s history than Jeff Fisher.
He won a Super Bowl ring as a safety with the Bears in 1985. He has either served or consulted on the NFL Competition Committee since 2000. This is his 21st season as an NFL coach.
Fisher knows full well that some teams have won Super Bowls with an abundance of depth in the defensive line. He appears to be following that strategy in St. Louis.
Of the Rams’ eight defensive linemen, five were drafted in the first round. Fisher selected two since taking charge in 2012: Michael Brockers in ’12 (14th pick) and Aaron Donald in ’14 (13th).
In March, Fisher gave oft-injured Nick Fairley $1.5 million guaranteed to leave Detroit as a free agent. Prior to Fisher’s hiring, the Rams drafted Chris Long with the second pick in 2008 and Robert Quinn with the 14th pick in ’11.
The Rams’ adjusted salary cap of $144.67 million includes $46.756 million for the eight D-linemen. That’s almost one-third of their payroll being spent on one position group.
In the last 30 years, three organizations that won more than one Super Bowl come to mind for their hoarding of defensive linemen.
The ’84 49ers kept all nine active in their rout of Miami. The starters, Lawrence Pillers, Manu Tuiasosopo and Dwaine Board, were backed by Fred Dean, Gary “Big Hands” Johnson, Jim Stuckey, Jeff Stover, Michael Carter and Louie Kelcher.
The ’92 Cowboys demolished Buffalo with Tony Tolbert, Tony Casillas, Russell Maryland and Charles Haley as starters and Jim Jeffcoat, Jimmie Jones, Chad Hennings and Leon Lett as backups.
The ’11 Giants shocked New England with Justin Tuck, Linval Joseph, Chris Canty and Jason Pierre-Paul backed by Osi Umenyiora, Dave Tollefson, Rocky Bernard and Jimmy Kennedy.
It remains to be seen if the Rams can build an offense to go with what can be a dominating front. At least they’re following a blueprint that has worked.
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October 7, 2015 at 4:24 pm #31919znModeratorRams-Packers Preview
AP
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/rams-packers-preview-100715
The Green Bay Packers still possess one of the NFL’s most prolific offenses, but an improving defense has the squad feeling particularly good about its best start in four years.
Following breakout performances by Todd Gurley and Tavon Austin, the St. Louis Rams feel they’re making similar strides on the other side of the ball.
As the Packers go after their 11th consecutive home win, the inconsistent Rams will try to remove a team from the unbeaten ranks for the second straight week Sunday.
Aaron Rodgers leads the league with 11 touchdowns passes and a 125.9 passer rating while leading Green Bay to the NFL’s sixth-best scoring average at 28.3 per game.
The reigning MVP has no interceptions this year and none in 574 attempts compared to 48 TDs over his last 19 games at Lambeau Field, including three playoff contests. His last interception at home came against Minnesota on Dec. 2, 2012.
The Packers (4-0), however, may be most pleased with how they’re playing defensively after holding an opponent to three points or less for only the second time since the 2011 season. They limited San Francisco to 196 total yards in last Sunday’s 17-3 road win.
“They always say defenses win championships. As long as we’re all playing on all cylinders, we can’t be beat,” said linebacker Nick Perry, who had two of Green Bay’s six sacks.
That defense has held Kansas City and the 49ers to a combined 152 yards on 4.1 per carry in the last two games, including 20 yards on nine attempts by San Francisco running backs. Green Bay shares the NFC lead in points allowed (17.8 per game) and ranks eighth in the NFL in total defense (312.0 ypg).
The Packers now seek their first 5-0 start since winning their first 13 games in 2011. They’ve won all 11 home games the beginning of last season, including a playoff matchup with Dallas, while averaging 37.2 points.
The Rams have been one of the most difficult teams to figure out, beating defending NFC champion Seattle in overtime in Week 1 and upsetting undefeated Arizona 24-22 on the road last Sunday. In between, they lost 24-10 at Washington and 12-6 to visiting Pittsburgh.
“It just shows that we have talent and all we have to do is come out and play every week and stay together as a team,” cornerback Janoris Jenkins said.
St. Louis (2-2) was ranked last offensively after totaling 16 points and 471 total yards in its two defeats, but the squad is more optimistic after scoring three TDs against an Arizona team which allowed just four during its 3-0 start. The Rams racked up a season-high 164 yards on the ground against the defensively stout Cardinals.
Playing in only his second game because of a knee injury, Gurley displayed the potential that made him the 10th overall pick in this year’s draft by running for 144 yards on 15 carries in the second half. The Rams didn’t top 80 yards rushing in any of their first three games.
“(Gurley’s) done all of the extra things. He’s that complete back,” coach Jeff Fisher told the team’s official website. “That’s the reason we drafted him, because we knew he was like that. … He’s a real pro.”
Austin, the eighth overall pick in 2013, had six catches for 96 yards and two touchdowns after totaling eight receptions for 42 yards in the first three games. He also ran twice for 20 yards, improving his average to 7.7 per carry on 10 attempts.
Maybe the diminutive Austin could become a go-to guy for Nick Foles and a Rams team which has no one among the league’s top 60 in receptions. Foles had three TD passes last Sunday after totaling two through his first three games as a Ram, finishing 16 of 24 for 171 yards without an interception.
“He plays within rhythm, he has good footwork, he’s decisive, he knows where to go with the football,” Packers coach Mike McCarthy told his team’s official website. “It looks like he does a good job of scheme recognition pre-snap, and he does a good job running their system.”
The man who runs things defensively, though, will be missing. Linebacker Alec Ogletree, who has a team-high 55 tackles, underwent surgery to repair his fractured right fibula on Tuesday.
The Rams are moving Akeem Ayers from strong-side to weak-side linebacker and have signed veteran Jo-Lonn Dunbar, who started for them at strong-side the past three seasons but was released at the end of the preseason.
St. Louis is tied with Green Bay for second in the NFL with 17 sacks, though the Rams have been susceptible against the run. They rank 26th at 120.3 yards allowed per game.
That’s an area of concern against a Packers team that ranks third in the NFL with 136.3 rushing yards per game. Eddie Lacy is coming off a season-high 90-yard effort.
It’s uncertain whether wide receiver Davante Adams will return from an ankle injury.
Green Bay has won four straight against the Rams, but the most recent came in 2012.
October 7, 2015 at 4:27 pm #31920znModeratorOctober 7, 2015 at 4:33 pm #31921znModeratorTodd Gurley will test Packers’ improved run defense
Rob Demovsky
GREEN BAY, Wis. — The Green Bay Packers’ run defense has been on quite the run — no pun intended — since Matt Forte trampled all over them in the regular-season opener.
Throw out Forte’s 141-yard performance and the Bears’ rushing total of 189 yards, which was the second-most by any team in Week 1, and the Packers would rank seventh in the NFL against the run. With it, they rank 21st.
The difference?
The Packers’ run defense has improved since giving up 189 yards to the Bears in Week 1.
“I think it’s been the discipline and the fundamentals, and the energy’s been excellent,” Packers coach Mike McCarthy said Wednesday. “We’re getting off blocks. It starts up front. Our line has done a very good job with the gap integrity and really the gap discipline, the penetration opportunities based on the scheme and so forth, and we’re doing a great job of rallying to the ball.”
Defensive coordinator Dom Capers actually credited the improved run defense for setting up the Packers’ increased pressure on the quarterback the last two games.
It’s worth noting that the Packers were short-handed on their defensive line early in the season because of suspensions to Datone Jones (one game) and Letroy Guion (three games). Before Guion returned for Sunday’s 17-3 win at San Francisco, when the Packers held the 49ers to just 77 yards rushing, they were still ranked 27th against the run.
A good starting point to judge how well Dom Capers’ unit can stop the run might be on Sunday against the St. Louis Rams and rookie running back Todd Gurley, who was the 10th overall pick in the draft despite a major knee injury (a torn ACL) last November a Georgia.
Gurley’s breakout performance came perhaps early than expected. After sitting out the first two weeks, Gurley was limited to just six carries (and 9 yards) in his Week 3 debut before going off for 146 yards on 19 carries in Sunday’s upset win at Arizona – a performance that Rams coach Jeff Fisher said did not surprise him and that ESPN Rams reporter Nick Wagoner broke down here.
“We drafted him for a reason,” Fisher said Wednesday on a conference call with reporters at Lambeau Field. “We drafted him to be the back of our future. We did not draft him to play and win the opener. We drafted him, as I said, to be that guy that we can count on through years to come. We were very patient with him. He worked really hard, as you can imagine.
“Anybody coming off of that injury, to come back and do the things that he did last week, has to work hard. And he did. We monitor his reps, and we took him softly and carefully through the preseason and just increased his reps. We just felt like it was a matter of time before he was going to hit some runs. It was really impressive.”
October 7, 2015 at 10:03 pm #31935znModeratorFisher uses air horn to keep Rams defensive lineman from jumping offside
Mike Florio
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co…-rams-defensive-lineman-from-jumping-offside/
Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers has demonstrated an uncanny ability to: (1) draw a defense offside with a hard count; and (2) throw the ball down the field for big chunks of yardage during the ensuing free play. The Rams, who play at Lambeau Field on Sunday, hope to avoid those penalties. And coach Jeff Fisher has employed one specific device to keep them in check.
An air horn.
“That’s just a message to the D-line on the hard count,” Fisher told reporters on Wednesday. “No one uses the hard count better than Aaron. And everybody week after week, you’ll read clips and things and all the defensives work against it. ‘We were ready for it.’ He pulls them offsides two or three times a game. So, I woke them up in their meeting room this morning with the horn, just to send a message.”
What did the defensive linemen think of hearing the air horn in the meeting room?
“Some were pissed,” Fisher said. “It scared them.”
Rodgers should scare them even more.
“You watch him on tape, he extends plays,” Fisher said. “He extends to his right, to his left, steps up, runs for first downs and just he knows what to do with the football. He’s pretty impressive.”
How does he compare to a mobile quarterback the Rams already have beaten this year,Russell Wilson?
“Well, he’s different from Russell from a standpoint that he’s just a little bit taller,” Fisher said of Rodgers. “He can see. So, if you keep him in the pocket, he’s going to hurt you in the pocket. At times, Russell will lose track of what’s going on down the field and take off. [Rodgers] will beat you with his legs and his arm. But you just have to change things up as best you can and challenge their receivers.”
It won’t be easy, but the Rams have the talent to have as much success as anyone. Especially if that air horn keeps them from jumping offside.
October 8, 2015 at 1:35 am #31945znModeratorNumbers don’t lie with Rodgers
Jim ThomasThe numbers for Aaron Rodgers at Lambeau Field are so phenomenal, they defy imagination. Over his last 19 games at home, the Green Bay quarterback has gone 580 passing attempts without throwing an interception.
Not 80. Not 180. We’re talking five hundred eighty. In that span, Rodgers has thrown 48 touchdown passes.
With his mobility, vision, and creativity, he’s anything but a robot. But he plays with robotic-like efficiency. The guy never makes mistakes.
“He doesn’t,” Rams coach Jeff Fisher said. “He throws the ball away. And that’s the thing about him. If he gets himself in a third down situation he doesn’t like, he just sails the ball out of bounds and knows he’s going to get another series.’
Rodgers is accurate, decisive, and crafty. If the Rams play their usual off-coverage at cornerback, he’ll be more than happy to pick them apart underneath. That’s the slow death. If they change strategy and get over-aggressive on receivers, his cannon arm will throw it over their heads. That’s the sudden death.
He has one of the best hard-counts in the business, and when he’s draws you offside, he’s not content just to get the five-yard penalty. He’ll try to make you pay by going deep on what amounts to a free play.
If you’re slow getting personnel on and off the field against the Packers’ no-huddle, he’ll get the play off quickly to take advantage.
“What a phenomenal challenge,” linebacker James Laurinaitis said. “It’s a lot more fun when you play a rookie quarterback and you know the coach is telling him to do this no matter what, and you trick him, and then you steal one from him. You ain’t stealing one from Aaron Rodgers.”
Rodgers caps a daunting trifecta of elite quarterbacks the Rams have faced back-to-back-to-back. First came Pittsburgh’s Ben Roethlisberger, then Arizona’s Carson Palmer, now Rodgers. Between them, they have nine Pro Bowls and three Super Bowl titles. This season, all three have passer ratings in excess of 100. But there’s no doubt at Rams Park that Rodgers is king of the hill.
“He’s the best in the biz because he is mobile,” Laurinaitis said. “He can run. People kind of sleep on how athletic he is.”
“Guys like him don’t come around too often,” defensive end William Hayes said. “He’s what Peyton Manning used to be. He’s the best right now in the league.”
Such high praise is telling, because NFL players frequently are hesitant to rate players who play the same position. It speaks volumes about the respect the Rams have for Rodgers.
“He definitely gets that engine going,” safety T.J. McDonald said. “He’s a heckuva player. You know he’s a good player, but when you watch the film it just reinforces it that much more.”
“I think the plays that he makes with his feet go unnoticed sometimes and he’s able to throw his receivers open and makes their life a lot easier. . . .All he needs is small window and he can fit it in there.”
Entering Sunday, Rodgers leads the NFL in passer rating (125.9), having thrown 11 touchdowns and no interceptions, with a 72.4 completion percentage.
Rodgers has posted a 100-plus passer rating in 10 consecutive home games, tying an NFL record set by Kurt Warner in 1999-2000. The Rams will be hard-pressed to keep Rodgers from the record.
Obviously, the Rams will try to get after him with one of the league’s best pass rushes. Their 17 sacks are tied for second in the league (with Green Bay), and just one off the pace of league-leading Denver. But getting Rodgers to the ground is easier said than done.
“It’s hard to get your hands on him,” Hayes said. “He’s always got his eyes downfield. You think you’ve got a sack on him and he just knows how to step up in the pocket real well, and he can run.”
Merely staying in your rush lanes and maintaining outside containment, like you might do against a Russell Wilson of Seattle, isn’t always good enough against Rodgers.
“He’s different from Russell from a standpoint that he’s just a little bit taller,” Fisher said. “(Rodgers) can see. So if you keep him in the pocket, he’s gonna hurt you in the pocket. At times, Russell will lose track of what’s going on down the field and take off.”
So the Rams will try to mix coverages and looks up front. Rest assured, defensive coordinator Gregg Williams will draw up his share of blitzes. And the Rams must challenge Green Bay receivers as much as possible.
The Rams have thought of everything this week in preparing, with Fisher even blowing an air horn near the line off scrimmage in practice Wednesday in an effort to induce the Rams’ defensive front into jumping offside.
When the teams last met in the regular season, in 2012 in St. Louis, the Rams were penalized three times for either being offside or in the neutral zone. The Rams still have 10 defensive players, including six starters, who played in a 30-20 Packers victory.
“This is probably gonna be one of those weeks where you can’t really focus on ‘get-off’ as much because he’s definitely the best in the league when it comes to drawing you offsides,” Hayes said.
To emphasize the point, Fisher even blew the air horn in defensive meetings Wednesday morning, startling some players — Hayes included.
“We were in there looking at film, and he brings the air horn in,” Hayes said. “I jumped up then. That might not be a good sign for me. I guess that was a sign telling me I need to be a little bit more disciplined.”
October 8, 2015 at 8:02 pm #31986znModeratorNick Foles’ calm under pressure key in Rams’ wins
Nick Wagoner
EARTH CITY, Mo. — Many would argue that the hardest thing to do in football is stand in the pocket as a quarterback and deliver a well-timed, accurate pass knowing that at any moment you could be hit from any angle.
It’s what separates the great quarterbacks from the, well, not so great ones. St. Louis Rams quarterback Nick Foles has been a little bit of both in the team’s first four games. It’s no coincidence that when he’s been good against pressure, the Rams have won. When he’s been average or worse, they’ve lost.
Never was Foles’ performance against pressure on better display than last week’s 24-22 win against the Arizona Cardinals. Facing Arizona’s blitz late in the game, Foles knew he was going to take a shot but stood tall and delivered a strike to Tavon Austin for the game-winning touchdown. He even pulled back on the throw before reloading and firing.
How did he manage to do it?
“You really just have to trust your linemen, trust them to pick it up,” Foles said. “Or if they have an extra guy, just maneuver around in the pocket. The situation during the game at the end is we needed a score, so it’s one of those times where no matter what it takes, you try to get the ball off and give the guy a chance. On that particular play, Tavon was able to really get across the field and I was able to put it around the guy. It all started with the O-line keeping the guys off of me.”
But the Rams’ offensive line hasn’t been able to consistently keep guys off of Foles. While they have managed to mostly limit sacks — the Rams have allowed six in four games — Foles has found himself under duress or hit on 26 occasions, 13 times in the team’s two wins and 13 times in the team’s two losses, according to ESPN Stats & Information.
In the victories, Foles is seven-of-13 for 103 yards and a touchdown with six first-down conversions when under pressure. In the losses, he’s five-of-13 for 24 yards with no touchdowns and no interceptions and just one first down. The difference is only two completions but the yards per attempt drops from 7.9 to 1.8 in the wins versus the losses.
According to Pro Football Focus’ metrics of passing under pressure, Foles has an 85.3 quarterback rating under pressure but that number jumps to 103.6 when he has a clean pocket. But Foles has also thrown four of his five touchdown passes against the blitz, proving that he has the ability to not only stand and deliver under pressure but deliver big plays.
This week, Foles will face a Green Bay Packers defense that ranks first in the NFL in sacks per passing attempt (13 percent), tied for second in sacks (17) and third in disrupted drop backs (a combination of sacks, passes defended, batted balls and interceptions).
“We talked about it today,” Fisher said. “(Foles) got hit too many times. We have to get better there. I don’t like to see our quarterback on the ground. But when he hung in there, he bought himself time. He trusted a clean pocket and got the ball down the field.”
Which means that even though the Rams and Foles are playing a Packers team known for its offense, Foles and the offensive line will have to be on point when Green Bay brings the heat.
October 9, 2015 at 12:40 am #32003znModeratorPackers concerned with Rams pass rush
Defense looks to bother Aaron RodgersIn studying the Green Bay Packers on film, Rams coach Jeff Fisher sees a defense that can go step for step with his team when it comes to rushing the quarterback.
Unfortunately for St. Louis, Green Bay’s Aaron Rodgers is no ordinary quarterback.
The Rams are up next Sunday for Rodgers at Lambeau Field, where the Packers have the league’s longest active winning streak at home, 11 games.
“I don’t think there’s anything underrated about him at all,” Fisher said. “You watch him on tape, he extends plays. He extends to his right, to his left, steps up, runs for first downs and just he knows what to do with the football.”
Foremost among those responsibilities for Rodgers is taking care of the football for the unbeaten Packers (4-0).
Through four games, the league MVP has thrown 11 touchdowns and no interceptions. At Lambeau, Rodgers hasn’t thrown an interception since Dec. 2, 2012, spanning NFL home records of 486 straight pass attempts and 43 touchdowns.
The Rams (2-2) will try to rattle Rodgers with a tough pass rush. They’re tied with Green Bay with 17 sacks, one behind the league-leading Denver Broncos.
St. Louis is unique in that its defense can collapse a pocket from the inside-out with athletic tackle Aaron Donald leading the way. The Packers had one of the league’s top offensive lines last season, though the protection hasn’t been airtight this year.
“Everybody has a pass rush plan … It will be clear what their plan is as far as how they want to come in here Sunday because of Aaron’s ability to step out of (gaps) or when one side collapses,” coach Mike McCarthy said. “That’s all part of the game. It’s part of a chess match.”
YOUNG RAMS: St. Louis went on the road last week to hand previously undefeated Arizona its first loss. Rookie running back Todd Gurley finished strong in his first NFL start after rushing for 106 of his 146 yards in the fourth quarter.
The performance gave a confidence boost to a relatively inexperienced offensive line with two rookie starters.
“There’s nothing like success,” offensive coordinator Frank Cignetti said. “We want to move on and get another one.”
NO RUSH: Green Bay’s rush defense has been stout of late, limiting starting running backs to an average of about 36 yards on 11 carries over the last three games. Mike Daniels and B.J. Raji are off to strong starts on the line, and linebacker Clay Matthews has been making plays whether he’s lined up on the inside or outside.
The defense is succeeding even without two of its better run defenders: safety Morgan Burnett (calf) has missed three of the last four games, while starting inside linebacker Sam Barrington (right foot) is out for the year.
SACKS STREAK: Stopping the run on early downs allows the Packers to focus on the pass rush on third-and-longs. Rodgers and the offense also have a propensity to score early at home to put teams in catch-up situations that can make opposing offenses even more one-dimensional.
Those are key factors in why the Packers have compiled 13 sacks over the last two games. Matthews and Julius Peppers are elite pass rushers, though the Packers are also getting pressure from a deep group of outside linebackers including Nick Perry, Mike Neal and up-and-comer Jayrone Elliott.
MEN IN MIDDLE: Speaking of getting to the quarterback, the Rams’ Donald is already one of the best in the business in just his second year in the league. The defensive tackle and 2014 Defensive Rookie of the Year has 3 1/2 sacks to pace St. Louis’ formidable front. The interior of the Green Bay line is strong with center Corey Linsley flanked by guards Josh Sitton and T.J. Lang.
BACKFIELD WRINKLE: Green Bay added a different wrinkle last week against San Francisco by lining up receivers Randall Cobb and Ty Montgomery in the backfield for a series, to solid results. It gives Rodgers two speedy and athletic weapons lined up next to him, and opposing defenses a new worry.
“I would ask the defensive coordinators that, but I think both guys can run with the football and they can both catch it,” Rodgers said.
October 9, 2015 at 8:51 am #32007wvParticipantPackers Podcast (plus Frank Sinatra)
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/331256171.html
They start talking about the Rams at the 16:30 mark or soOctober 9, 2015 at 9:37 am #32008znModeratorGreen Bay’s defense revolves around LB Matthews
Joe Lyons
Green Bay Packers linebacker Clay Matthews was born into one of the NFL’s legendary families.
His grandfather, Clay Sr., played defensive end for four seasons in the 1950s with the San Francisco 49ers and his father, Clay Jr., was a four-time Pro Bowl linebacker who split 19 NFL seasons between the Cleveland Browns and Atlanta Falcons.
And then there’s uncle Bruce, a Hall of Famer who played in Houston and Tennessee and is among the best offensive lineman the league ever has had.
But despite the pedigree, Clay III’s road to NFL stardom was anything but traditional.
A self-described “late bloomer,” Matthews did not start as a 6-foot-1, 165-pound junior at Agoura High in California. His defensive coordinator at the time — his father.
“His mom was giving me the business, but he wasn’t ready,’’ Clay Jr. said in a Los Angeles Times story that ran during Clay III’s final season at the University of Southern California. “He wasn’t very big and he wasn’t very strong.’’
Clay III did start as a senior in high school. But with recruiting interest limited to local community colleges, he walked on at USC, where his father and uncle starred. During a redshirt freshman season, a season in which the Trojans went undefeated and won a national title — a title that has since been vacated for NCAA rules violations — Matthews was asked almost weekly by head coach Pete Carroll and linebackers coach Ken Norton Jr. if he wanted to get on the field late in blowout victories.
Each time, Matthews declined, knowing that taking the field would wipe out a year of eligibility.
After two years in the program, he received a scholarship and, after establishing himself on special teams, got a chance to start as a redshirt senior in 2008. Playing alongside future NFL linebackers Brian Cushing (Houston) and Rey Maualuga (Cincinnati), Matthews excelled as a hybrid defensive end/linebacker and finished with career bests in tackles (57), tackles for loss (nine) and sacks (4½).
On draft day in 2009, the Packers traded up to select Matthews in the first round, with the 26th pick.
“Fortunately (general manager) Ted Thompson and the Packers believed in me,” Matthews, 29, said this week in a teleconference call with St. Louis media members. “I’d like to think that I’ve given them everything that I have and will continue to do so for the duration of my career here. I think my high school and college story isn’t one of most blue-chip athletes or five-star recruits, but I believe it’s kind of given me that edge and that mentality that’s allowed me to become the player I am today.”
That happens to be one of the best and most disruptive defensive players in the NFL. The 6-foot-3, 255-pound Matthews became the first player in the Packers’ storied history to earn Pro Bowl recognition in each of his first four seasons. He added a fifth Pro Bowl selection last year and was voted the NFC defensive player of the year in 2010; that season concluded with the Packers knocking off the Steelers, 31-25, to win Super Bowl XLV.
“What a football player,” Rams offensive coordinator Frank Cignetti said. “Fun to watch, a high-motor guy. He’s what this game is all about — guys who love football and play relentlessly.”
After spending the first five-plus seasons at outside linebacker, Matthews shifted inside midway through the 2014 campaign and has continued to excel over the last couple of seasons.
“Clay’s pretty much our feature player (on defense),” Packers coach Mike McCarthy said. “It’s important for us to continue to move him around, create targeting issues for the offense. He’s off to a great start. Really, when we made the move at the midpoint of the season last year, I think you’re just seeing a continuation of that. He’s really an impact player.”
Through four games this season, Matthews has 14 tackles, three sacks, a pass defended and an interception. He averaged more than 10 sacks a season through his first six in the league, topping out with 13½ in 2010.
“It’s obviously been a change … but I feel as if we’ve got a good design of how I’m incorporated into the game plan each and every week,” he said of playing both linebacker spots. “Some game plans require me to be in a little more coverage against stud tight ends and running backs who are good out of the backfield. Others present some opportunities where I can rush and not just on the outside, but against guards and centers. I feel we do a good job of kind of moving me around and allowing me to be close to the ball. I like to think when I’m around the ball that good things are going to happen.
“For the most part, I enjoy the responsibilities that are asked of me.”
With Matthews setting the tone, the 4-0 Packers are ranked No. 8 in total defense in the NFL. The touted Green Bay offense, featuring all-everything QB Aaron Rodgers, will enter Sunday’s game against the 2-2 Rams at Lambeau Field ranked 10th in total offense.
“Defensively, it’s hard to keep up with (our offense); I think this is the first time in a long time where our defense is rated higher,” Matthews said. “We take a lot of pride in that because for long we’ve been known as an offensive team, and rightfully so. We’d like to carry our fair share of the load and help in games in which we get into a crunch.”
Matthews said he enjoys playing for veteran defensive coordinator Dom Capers.
“I think Dom does a great job of putting his playmakers into positions to succeed,” Matthews said. “A big part of moving me to middle linebacker was because we need to put our best 11 players on the field. …We’re playing fast, making plays, we’re smart and we’re disciplined. That’s what (Dom) is all about and what he preaches day in and day out.
October 9, 2015 at 12:19 pm #32017znModeratorfrom off the net
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Prometheus Faulk
The Rams defense, as it is currently constructed, has beaten high flying offenses led by great, HOF quarterbacks before. They’ve taken Brees. They’ve beat Peyton.
Rodgers and the passing offense looked out of sync last week to me against San Francisco. They won thanks to their defense playing great, the running game clicking, and good passing in the red zone, but I think he got sacked about six times and they only scored two TDs.
They still haven’t adequately replaced Nelson yet. Adams was supposed to be the guy and he got hurt. Jones has had one tremendous game but he is bound to be inconsistent game to game. Cobb is great but he’s mostly a short yardage/YAC guy and he can’t do it all himself. The tight ends and the younger receivers like Montgomery and Janis are kind of “catch as catch can.” Not to say any of these guys can’t have a great game, but they also aren’t ultra reliable, outside of Cobb. Cobb’s gonna do some damage underneath. That’s just going to happen. But if we take away some of the deep stuff our pass rush can get to Rodgers.
This game could be kind of ugly, tell you the truth. And ugly might win it for us. They have a great run game, a defense that is playing really well, and probably the best quarterback in the league right now. But something isn’t quite right with them without Nelson. The Rams can win.
October 9, 2015 at 11:09 pm #32042znModeratorPractice Report 10/9: Gearing up for Rodgers
Myles Simmons
The Rams will have a tough challenge on their hands going up against quarterback Aaron Rodgers and the vaunted Green Bay offense. And they will have to do it without linebacker Alec Ogletree.
With the Georgia product slated to miss extended time with a lower-leg fracture, defensive coordinator Gregg Williams said the Rams have gone to the mantra of ‘next man up.’
“One of the things that we have here is a next man up philosophy,” Williams said. “We’re going to miss him because he’s so dominant. But, he’s been around here and his spirit has been good.”
One of those men to replace him will be Akeem Ayers. While the linebacker has been playing on the strong side for St. Louis, Ayers has played at ‘Will’ before in the same defensive scheme.
“That’s good and there’s not any hesitation in them with terminology,” Williams said. “He’s got a familiarity base and that’s good.”
Also, the Rams have safety Mark Barron, who can do a lot to fill in given his versatility. Williams said Barron has done well in different packages playing inside the box as a safety.
“Nobody should count him out on anything,” Williams said. “There’s other multiple of guys that we have going in at that position. We’ve just got to get the right one out on the field at the right time.”
Of course, going against Rodgers is no easy task at any point. But the quarterback has been particularly impressive in 2015, according to Williams.
He’s playing very confidently,” Williams said. “One of the things I think I heard a couple of weeks ago from whatever that sports science show is, it’s kind of a cool show anyway, but the speed of his release is amazing.”
Williams said a significant part of the strategy will be to just disrupt the timing between Rodgers an his receivers. But the team knows Green Bay will likely use quick passes to attempt to negate the effects of the Rams’ pass rush.
“We go into the game and you’re going to have to adapt and improvise on whatever the skill set is needed for that week and game,” Williams said. “Even from a statistical standpoint, there’s things that go on in a game, every game takes on the life of its own.”
Plus, there’s the matter of Rodgers’ 486 regular-season passing attempts at Lambeau Field without throwing a pick. Williams said he wasn’t necessarily aware of it early in the week, but the players have brought it up as part of the team’s overall philosophy.
“Really, it’s our mantra every week. We’ve got to take the ball away,” Williams said. “We’ve got to do a good job of creating shorter fields, creating the situations for our offense. Someone told me a stat the other day that we had six takeaways as a team and all six takeaways as a team has resulted in points for our offense, which is outstanding.”
“We’re going to have our work cut out for us,” Williams added, “but our guys are up for it and they’ve studied very hard.”
INJURY REPORT
It looks like the Rams should get two key contributors back this week, as Chase Reynolds (knee) is listed as probable and Eugene Sims (knee) is listed as questionable.
Both players were injured in the Rams’ first contest of the season against the Seahawks. Reynolds, a key special teams contributor, and Sims, a key rotation player on the defensive line both fully participated in practice throughout the week.
Also on the report, wide receiver Kenny Britt sat out Friday’s practice with a knee injury, but is listed as probable. Safety Maurice Alexander did not participate in practice all week and is listed as doubtful. Finally, linebacker Alec Ogletree is out.
Though he’s listed on the injury report because he did not practice, defensive end Robert Quinn missed Friday’s session because his wife gave birth to a baby girl.
“I told him that was more important than what we were doing,” head coach Jeff Fisher said.
GIVE A LOOK
Linebacker Daren Bates is one of the Rams’ special teams captains, and he’s also often on the scout team, helping the offense prepare for what it will see from the opposition on Sunday. Today, Bates it to another level, sporting a long blonde wig under his helmet as he played the role of linebacker Clay Matthews.
“He’s a little shorter than Clay,” Fisher said of Bates. “He’s watched Clay. I’m sure he grew up watching Clay and has a great deal of respect for Clay. Obviously, we need to know where he is every snap. So, that’s why we dressed him up a little bit.”
The wig didn’t change anything about the way the players practiced, though it did add some brevity to Friday’s session.
“It shocked me, too. I didn’t know that was coming,” Williams said. “You can see those guys doing all of that kind of fun stuff. The hard part of the business is the preparation, your body feeling tough at times. But, all of the sudden you can laugh and joke and have some good times and promote some spirit. That was kind of cool.”
That said, Williams had some choice words for just how it affects the linebacker’s appearance on the field.
“It really didn’t look really good on him. His look right there — he battles looks anyways,” Williams joked. “He doesn’t need any more things to hurt him, that’s for sure.”
October 9, 2015 at 11:10 pm #32043znModeratorfrom off the net
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aeneas1
Packers Vs Top 10 Defenses….
so is the rams defense legit? the unit held seattle’s offense to just 17, pittsburgh’s high flying offense offense to just 12, arizona’s high flying offense to 22, and washington’s offense to just 17 through 3 quarters and 12 minutes of play, before an exhausted d finally gave up 7 with 3 minutes remaining in the game, in fact the rams are the 7th stingiest defense through 3 quarters of football in terms offensive points allowed… all told the rams defense has held opponent offenses to an average of just 18.9 points per game…
looking at the packers, their offense has been relatively human when facing top 10 defenses (points allowed) dating back to 2014.. in the 7 games they’ve faced top 10 defenses their offense has averaged just 18.9 points per game, against defenses outside of the top 10, 15 in all, their offense has averaged a whopping 31.5 points per game. that’s the good news, assuming the rams are a legit top 10 defense. the bad news is the pack offense has averaged just 14.5 points per game against top 10 defenses on the road, but 24.7 against top 10 defenses at home.
October 10, 2015 at 2:48 am #32050znModeratorRams hope running game continues to flourish
Jim Thomas
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/foot…cle_3fe78322-4e8f-505a-9ea9-402909960de2.html
A week ago before playing the Arizona Cardinals, coach Jeff Fisher and offensive coordinator Frank Cignetti told the media in separate sessions on separate days how close they felt the running game was to a breakthrough.
Yeah, right, was the collective response.
The Rams, after all, were ranked 29th in the NFL in rushing offense through three games. Rookie running back Todd Gurley’s much-anticipated debut had generated a scant 9 yards on six carries against Pittsburgh.
But then it happened in the second half against Arizona. After a first half in which the Rams managed just 9 yards on nine carries, the floodgates opened. With Gurley doing most of the work, the Rams rushed 17 times for 155 yards en route to a 24-22 upset victory. How did that happen?
“I tell you what, I just think it’s perseverance like we’ve talked about every time here,” Cignetti said this week. “You know, every day we’re getting a little bit better.
“My hat goes off to the coaches emphasizing the run game, the offensive line doing a great job. Obviously, the running backs made good, decisive reads, and I think you saw the progress.”
A running game that had produced only one carry longer than 16 yards in three games, had four runs of 20 yards-plus in the second half at Arizona — all by Gurley.
“Gurley’s a real good player,” left tackle Greg Robinson said. “He’s explosive, and he’s hard to take down. But just going throughout the week, we had talked about it in the (meeting) room that there was a chance that the running game would pop.
“And the running backs just needed to trust us to get the holes open and run hard. So Gurley stepped in at a critical moment and he made some big plays obviously. It’s a highlight of a night just to see the numbers that we put up in the second half.”
Turns out the same “we’re close” message the coaches were feeding the media was also delivered in the meeting rooms at Rams Park, albeit in more detail. Hold on to this block a little longer … a little better technique here … better footwork there … and good things would happen.
“It was preached throughout each week,” Robinson said. “Every game they just kept making the big emphasis on ‘we’re close.’ I really feel like we fought through it and just trusted that if we kept using the proper technique, the proper steps, and playing our hearts out, that we would eventually get something going. And we did.”
On what easily is the NFL’s most inexperienced offensive line, that second half in Arizona could be a confidence-builder and generate momentum going forward.
“I think we’re kinda starting to figure out what our identity is, and what we need to do in order to have big explosive plays,” right guard Rodger Saffold said.
“It’s something that the line can build off of,” quarterback Nick Foles added. “As an offense we can continue to improve our run game, improve our screen game, our dropback, and all of that. But it all stems from the run.”
No one expects Gurley to gain 146 yards every week — a total that was more than double what the Rams had been averaging as a team against Seattle, Washington and Pittsburgh. But now that they know they can do it, perhaps better days will continue in the run game.
“It think it gives everyone confidence,” Cignetti said. “There’s nothing like success. … The victory was big. We want to move on and get another one.”
Run game success won’t come easy this Sunday at Lambeau Field in a noon kickoff against unbeaten Green Bay (4-0). After getting gashed for 189 yards rushing by Chicago in the season opener, including 141 by Matt Forte, the Packers have tightened up considerably.
They have yielded an average of 90 rushing yards a game over their next three contests, and feature backs Marshawn Lynch of Seattle, Jamaal Charles of Kansas City and Carlos Hyde of San Francisco combined for only 110 yards on 34 carries in those three games.
“You can’t run it against ’em,” Fisher said Friday. “You go back and you watch these games — you watch Seattle and you watch San Francisco — they had a hard time running the ball against ’em. So we’re gonna have to find a way to get that done.”
A trimmed down B.J. Raji is tough to budge at 337 pounds in the middle of the Green Bay defensive front. Mike Daniels is quicker playmaker at 310. At linebacker, veterans Julius Peppers and Clay Matthews are more than just pass rushers.
“They’ve got a good defense,” Saffold said. “A bunch of guys that are really good running to the ball. You already know their offense, and the only way to beat their offense is one way: keeping ’em off the field. That’s the only way to do it. So five and six 3-and-outs to start off the game is not gonna help.”
The Rams are getting only 50 plays per game on offense, a league low and a dozen plays less per game than the league average. Their average time of possession, 25 minutes 40 seconds, is the second-lowest in the league ahead of only Philadelphia (22:28).
Those aren’t numbers conducive to keeping quarterback Aaron Rodgers and the Green Bay offense on the sideline. If ever there was a time for more from the running game, this is it.
October 10, 2015 at 1:56 pm #32070znModeratorRams pull off third big upset of the year
Rams vs. Packers preview
Gregg Rosenthal
St. Louis executed its gameplan to near-perfection last week in Arizona, yet no one seems to take them seriously yet. Sure, they are 2-0 in the NFC West with wins against the defending NFC champions and previously unbeaten Cardinals. But the Rams always play tough in their division. Sunday’s game in Green Bay is far more challenging, but they are catching the Packers at the right time. Right tackle Don Barclay is struggling in pass protection, and the Packersfigure to be without wide receiver Davante Adams and safety Morgan Burnett again. The Rams front four can be disruptive enough to slow down Aaron Rodgers, andRams rookie Todd Gurley can do the rest.
October 10, 2015 at 3:56 pm #32072znModeratorFor Rams, best defense against Packers is a good offense
Nick Wagoner
EARTH CITY, Mo. — The St. Louis Rams (2-2) and Green Bay Packers (4-0) kick off Sunday at 1 p.m. ET at Lambeau Field. Here are three things to watch:
1. The best defense … : The Rams finally found some offensive success in the second half last week against Arizona, especially in the running game. Back Todd Gurley went for 106 yards in the fourth quarter alone and has practiced all week without a knee brace. He looks poised to build on that outing. And the Rams could really use it against the Packers.
It’s cliche but it’s cliche for a reason: Sometimes the best defense against a star quarterback like Aaron Rodgers is a good offense. You know, the kind of offense that consistently puts together long drives that eat up big chunks of the clock. That’s been a major weakness for the Rams so far this year. They are 31st in the NFL in time of possession margin with opponents having the ball for nearly nine minutes more per game in the first four weeks. The Rams are last in the league in first downs with just 55, that’s 14 less than Cleveland, the next closest team on the list. Taking it a step further, the Rams’ longest drive this season is 4:47, and they are averaging just 4.57 plays per drive, last in the league.
By way of comparison, Green Bay averages 6.02 players per drive and has an average time of possession margin of almost six minutes in its favor. Last week was a step in the right direction for the Rams’ offense, but the next step is for them to put drives together in which they regularly move the chains and keep the clock moving.
2. Staying disciplined: Earlier this week, I took a deeper look at the steps the Rams are taking to try to keep Rodgers from drawing them offsides and stealing big plays without any repercussions. It bears repeating here.
Through the first four games, Rodgers has drawn a league-high eight offside flags. Rodgers is taking those flags and rendering them pointless with what he does after they’re thrown. On those eight plays, Rodgers is 5-for-5 for 164 yards and two touchdowns, good for a perfect 158.3 passer rating and 100.0 QBR.
The Rams, meanwhile, have jumped offside an NFL-high 36 times (with 20 accepted) since coach Jeff Fisher arrived in 2012. This week, it was air horns, music and quarterback Case Keenum attempting to force the Rams to stay disciplined. But the Rams aren’t the first team to discuss the need to hold their water only to have Rodgers make them pay on Sunday. If they want to have a chance in this one, they must translate the lessons learned during the week to Sunday’s game.
3. Takeaway time: It’s no secret that Rodgers has an absolutely ridiculous streak going when it comes to avoiding interceptions at Lambeau Field. Dating to 2012, Rodgers has thrown 580 passes and 48 touchdowns without an interception at home (including playoffs). And while Rodgers is excellent at avoiding turnovers, so is everyone else on the offense. Green Bay has just one giveaway in the first four weeks, a James Starks fumble in Week 2 against Seattle.
The Rams have six takeaways this season, which puts them in the middle of the pack, but they were plus-three against Arizona last week, which ultimately made the different in a two-point game. It’s a tall order, but they’ll need a similar margin this week if they want to knock off an undefeated team on the road for the second consecutive week.
October 11, 2015 at 8:16 am #32102znModeratorRams at Packers: 7 things to watch
Jim Thomas
MR. RODGERS’ NEIGHBORHOOD
By his lofty standards anyway, Aaron Rodgers was just a little off last week at San Francisco, narrowly missing connections on some throws we’re used to seeing him make. The 49ers’ cornerbacks played pretty tight at the line of scrimmage, and their secondary as a whole didn’t allow much separation. But Rodgers is back at the friendly confines of Lambeau Field this week where he never — and we mean never — throws an interception. It’s 580 passes and counting without an INT by Rodgers at home.
BETTER BE READY
It’s tough to play catch-up against Green Bay, and the Packers have been getting out of the gates quickly this year. They have outscored the opposition 38-6 in the opening quarter in four games this season, and scored on their first possession last week although it took a penalty against the 49ers to keep the drive alive and prevent Green Bay from punting. That score came on a TD pass to tight end Richard Rodgers on a play in which Aaron Rodgers roamed in and out of the pocket waiting for someone to get open.
LEAK ON THE LINE?
Pinch-hitting for the injured Bryan Bulaga at right tackle, fourth-year pro Don Barclay had a brutal game against San Francisco, allowing three sacks and seven pressures. Rodgers avoided a fourth Barclay sack only by throwing a very short pass lefthanded as he was going down. Bulaga returned to practice Wednesday for the first time since suffering a knee injury Sept. 17 in practice, but he’s questionable for Sunday. If it’s Barclay, this is a matchup advantage Chris Long must exploit.
BACKFIELD BUSINESS
Green Bay is getting more help out of its running game than usual, rushing for 120 yards-plus in each of the first four games. That hasn’t happened since 1971 and the days of coach Dan Devine. Eddie Lacy, the 2013 NFL offensive rookie of the year out of Alabama, is seeking his third consecutive 1,000-yard rushing season. He’s been slowed by an ankle injury, and looks overweight, but has still been successful running more like a power back. Veteran James Starks is a capable backup.
BANGED UP RECEIVERS
The Packers miss the downfield ability of Jordy Nelson, who suffered a season-ending knee injury during exhibition play. Davante Adams has missed all but three plays the past two games because of a high ankle sprain and isn’t expected to play this week. Randall Cobb has a team-high 25 catches but is playing through a painful shoulder injury. Veteran James Jones, who returned to Green Bay after ill-fated stints with Oakland and the New York Giants, has been a godsend but has a hamstring issue.
GURLEY’S TASK
After his breakout 146-yard rushing performance against Arizona, Rams rookie running back Todd Gurley will be challenged by an improving Green Bay run defense. After allowing 189 yards rushing against the Matt Forte-led Chicago Bears, the Packers yielded fewer than 50 yards rushing in successive weeks to Seattle’s Marshawn Lynch (41), Kansas City’s Jamaal Charles (49), and San Francisco’s Carlos Hyde (20). A rejuvenated B.J. Raji has anchored the run defense up front.
IN A RUSH
The Packers’ pass rush has gotten to the passer 17 times this season, tied for second in the league with the Rams. Thirteen of those sacks have come in the past two contests, marking the first time since 1978 that the Packers have gotten six or more sacks in back-to-back games. Ageless Julius Peppers and five-time Pro Bowler Clay Matthews key the pass-rush, but the Packers have five players with two or more sacks already this season — four of whom are linebackers in the team’s 3-4 scheme.
October 11, 2015 at 8:35 am #32103znModeratorGreen Bay provides another tough test for Rams
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Two weeks ago, the Rams limited what was the league’s most explosive offense at the time to 12 points and knocked its star quarterback — Ben Roethlisberger — out of the game.
Last week, the Rams knocked a sizzling Arizona Cardinals team that had been averaging 40-plus points a game from the ranks of the unbeaten. In their house.
And now, a grueling three-game gantlet against the league’s elite comes to an end at Lambeau Field — a magical place where the home team never loses and the quarterback never throws an interception.
Or so it seems. The Green Bay Packers (4-0) have won 11 straight at home, the longest current home winning streak in the NFL. Their quarterback, Aaron Rodgers, has not thrown an interception in his last 580 passes, a period encompassing 19 regular-season and postseason games.
No one expected the Rams to beat Pittsburgh, and they came within a play of doing just that in a hard-fought 12-6 defeat at the Edward Jones Dome.
No one expected the Rams to beat Arizona, but they did with three touchdown passes by Nick Foles, 146 yards rushing by rookie Todd Gurley, and a defense that forced the high-powered Arizona offense to kick one field goal after another.
“We’ve taken a lot of criticism and deservedly so — our lumps the last couple weeks,” defensive end Chris Long said after the Arizona triumph. “A lot of people said a lot of things about us.”
Losing to a mediocre at best Washington team, and then failing to capitalize on a chance at an upset against Pittsburgh will do that. After those games, most observers believed the team would be staring at 1-4 two weeks later, after the trips to Arizona and Green Bay.
But then came last weekend’s big upset, and for a week at least, all things seem possible.
“We just keep believing and keep trying to get better,” Long said.
So at 2-2, the Rams have avoided the 1-3 curse that helped doom their last two seasons. Should they pull off another upset in Sunday’s noon kickoff, they’d be 3-2 for the first time since 2012 — coach Jeff Fisher’s first season with the team.
Even with a loss Sunday, the Rams at 2-3 entering their bye week still could compete for a playoff berth. But at 3-2 with victories over Seattle, Arizona, and Green Bay on their résumé? Well, things could get exciting — a word not used much at Rams Park over the past decade-plus.
Of the Rams’ 11 remaining opponents following Green Bay, only two currently have winning records. The combined record of the five Rams foes immediately following Green Bay is 6-14.
The Rams had more bounce in their step this week in practice. Momentum and confidence seemed to be the words of the week. But the Fisher Rams have been down this road before and crashed. Just ask wide receiver Tavon Austin.
Defeating Arizona, Austin said, “will definitely boost our confidence up.”
But he cautioned: “We beat Seattle and our confidence was pretty high, then we lost two straight. So it’s all about focusing in, playing Rams football.”
For two decades, ever since the ascendancy of quarterback Brett Favre and the Mike Holmgren-coached Packers, Lambeau Field has been a place where confidence goes to die and momentum hits a wall.
“It’s hard to win in the NFL,” Foles said. “Every game is going to be tough. Every game we’ve played this year has been really close and really tough. We’re going into an environment where they play really well at home. It’s a great challenge for us.”
Or as offensive guard Rodger Saffold put it: “This is not gonna be any type of picnic.”
It has been Dec. 2, 2012 (against Minnesota) since Rodgers last threw a home interception. If anything, the law of averages should kick in any time now. But Fisher isn’t dreaming that big — not right now.
“You now what?” Fisher asked. “If the ball hits the ground, I’ll be happy. So that’s the starting point. Get the ball to hit the ground. If it happens to fall in one of our arms, however that happens, then we’ll try to make the most of it.”
Not unlike the Arizona game last week, it’ll probably take a couple of turnovers — however they come — for the Rams to hang with the Packers. Or a return touchdown.
Although the outcome never appeared to be in jeopardy, the Packers weren’t overwhelming in last week’s 17-3 victory at San Francisco. Rodgers was harassed more than he liked by the 49ers’ pass rush.
Green Bay’s skill position group is beat up. The Packers, at the moment, don’t appear as explosive offensively as the Cardinals or the Steelers were when they played the Rams.
Then again, this has the makings of one of the most balanced Packers teams since Mike McCarthy took over as their coach in 2006. The Packers are ranked among the NFL’s top 10 in both total offense and total defense for the first time since the 2010 season.
On offense, associate head coach Tom Clements has taken over the play-calling duties from McCarthy this season. The Packers have been more methodical, but that’s by necessity minus injured wide receivers Jordy Nelson and Davante Adams, and with Randall Cobb, James Jones, and Eddie Lacy all nicked.
Not that anyone’s feeling sorry for the Packers; they’re still finding ways to keep scoreboard operators busy. Only five teams have scored more points.
“As a defense, we love these challenges,” safety T.J. McDonald said. “We love going up against great offenses. I feel like we’ve stood up to the challenge every week we’ve had an offense like this, or someone that’s highly-touted at quarterback.
“We were just talking about how great Arizona’s offense was last week. Before that, how great Pittsburgh’s offense was. And both of those games we held our own and gave up one touchdown.”
The question is: Can the Rams do it again?
October 11, 2015 at 9:18 am #32108znModeratorfrom off the net
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My brother and I decided to make a bucket list trip to Lambeau! (as if the Harley Davidson purchase two weeks ago wasn’t evidence enough of my mid-life crisis)
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Interesting note: being identified as Rams fans all weekend because of our apparel, we’ve had lots of football talk with Packer fans, who are really nice and hospitable…and pretty knowledgeable football fans. Almost all of them have said the Rams are a solid, up and coming team with a defense to be respected. They say Fisher has them primed for contention. Having said that, they don’t expect to lose.
For the golfers out there, Whistling Straits is more extraordinary and spectacular than advertised.
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