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September 14, 2015 at 5:45 am #30679znModerator
Replay assistant may have violated protocol to correct ref on Seahawks onside kick
Michael David Smith
The most crucial officiating decision of Week One in the NFL may have come in St. Louis, where referee Jeff Triplette at first wrongly ruled that the Rams had used an invalid fair catch signal on the Seahawks’ onside kick in overtime. After a consultation, Triplette corrected himself, ruling that the Rams’ recovery of the onside kick had been legal. The Rams benefitted from their good field position from recovering the onside kick, and won the game in overtime.
But a question remains: Why did Triplette get the call wrong in the first place, and what information did he use to correct himself?
According to former head of NFL officiating Mike Pereira, the most likely explanation is that the replay assistant — in violation of league protocols — contacted Triplette to tell him that the Seahawks’ onside kick had not bounced off the ground, as Triplette originally believed.
“I’m going to tell you something. Jeff Triplette and his crew, how did they arrive at this? How did they get from the ball being kicked into the ground, which they didn’t expect, to have it not being kicked into the ground? You know those communication systems that you see officials wearing now? He’s got the microphone on and the headset? Things have become so complicated,” Pereira said on FOX Sports Radio, via ESPN. “They’re not going to admit this, but somebody got into Jeff Triplette’s ear from the press box and said, ‘Jeff, that ball wasn’t kicked into the ground.’ Then he changed it based on that information. That information is coming from the replay official who sees the play, even though it’s not reviewable. And colleges are doing the same thing now. You don’t just have the seven people on the field. You have an eighth person in the NFL when you count the replay guy or even New York looking in and watching from New York with communication to the stadium. . . . So it’s become so much more complicated that this communication system is being used to get things right, which I’m actually OK with.”
If the replay assistant contacted Triplette to tell him he got it wrong, then the replay assistant was overstepping his bounds. That particular penalty is not reviewable, and even if it were reviewable, the replay assistant’s job would only be to help the referee review the play, not to correct the referee.
But even a die-hard Seahawks fan would have to grudgingly admit that getting the call right should be more important than following the protocols to the letter. And in this case, they got the call right. If the replay assistant helped to get a crucial call right, that’s a good thing.
Which raises a question: Why do the NFL’s administrative protocols prevent the replay assistant from helping the referee get calls right? It’s one thing to limit replay reviews to avoid unnecessarily delaying the game, but in this case the game was being delayed because the officials were conferring about the call anyway. As long as the officials are having a conference on the field, why shouldn’t the replay assistant tell the referee what he saw?
The ultimate goal should be getting the call right. If the replay assistant helped the referee get the call right in St. Louis, then the NFL should thank him — and change the rules so that replay assistants can continue to help referees going forward.
September 14, 2015 at 5:45 am #30456AgamemnonParticipantSeptember 14, 2015 at 5:46 am #30457AgamemnonParticipantCould playoff overtime strategy include an onside kick?
Posted by Michael David Smith on January 8, 2011, 2:38 PM EDTWe continue to be intrigued by the new overtime format that the NFL is rolling out for the playoffs, and the strategic implications of the new rule that says a field goal on the first possession of overtime doesn’t end the game. Specifically, we’re intrigued about the possibility of some team trying an onside kick.
As we noted this week, an onside kick recovered by the kicking team would count as a possession for the receiving team. That means that if the team that kicks off to start overtime were to try an onside kick and recover it, that team would just need to drive the 25 yards or so into field goal range, kick the field goal and win. Or if the receiving team at the start of overtime kicks a field goal on its first possession, that team could win the game by recovering an onside kick on the ensuing kickoff.
Peter King wrote a great piece at SI.com this week examining the implications of the new overtime rule, and King advocates a team giving an onside kick a try.
“No one will be gutty enough to do it, but if you’re Seattle, and you’re somehow tied in a very high-scoring game with the Saints after four quarters, and you’re kicking off, and you haven’t stopped Brees in a while, you absolutely, positively should try an onside kick to start overtime,” King writes.
Brian Burke of Slate.com did a statistical analysis of the possibility of starting overtime with an onside kick, and Burke writes that the numbers back King up, saying, “an onside attempt would be a smart play.”
King is surely right that no coach will be gutty enough to do it, although Sean Payton was gutty enough to open the second half of the Super Bowl with a surprise onside kick, and that worked out quite well. It might work in overtime of a playoff game, too. Even if no coach would do it.
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Onside kick or muffed punt would count as overtime possession
Posted by Michael David Smith on January 6, 2011, 10:46 AM EDT
Adam VinatieriNFL fans know by now that there’s a new system of overtime in place for the playoffs, and that a field goal on the first possession can’t end the game. But some fans might not realize that a team doesn’t actually have to possess the ball to get its first (and potentially last) possession.
As Competition Committee co-chair Rich McKay explained on NFL Network, each team is only guaranteed the opportunity to possess the ball. Which means that an onside kick recovered by the kicking team would count as a possession for the receiving team. Ditto for a muffed punt, or a fumble on a punt or kickoff return.
“There’s two instances in which that could really come into play,” McKay said. “One would be the onside kick and the other would be if the team receiving a punt muffed the punt. At that point they’re deemed to have possessed the ball.”
McKay also noted that overtime won’t necessarily end with a scoring play, which is a change from every previous overtime in NFL history. But the NFL seems to want to emphasize that the league views this as a minor tweak to the overtime rules, not a major change.
“It’s just like the old rule, it’s still sudden death. The only modification is when the receiving team takes the ball, drives down and kicks a field goal,” McKay said. “When the team receiving the kickoff kicks a field goal on the first possession, that’s really the major change in the rule.”
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A pro football conundrum: Does it make sense to start overtime with a surprise onside kick?
By Brian Burke
Football on a tee. Click image to expand.Overtime in the NFL used to be simple: The first team to score won the game. Starting with this year’s postseason, it’s gotten a bit more complicated. Last March, NFL owners voted to change the rules for playoff games exclusively, arguing that the team that won the overtime coin flip received an unfair advantage. In the past decade, as field goal kickers have become more accurate from long distances, the coin-flip winner has won 60 percent of overtime games. In only two-thirds of overtime games does each team even get an opportunity to possess the ball.
The owners made just one modification to the overtime rules: A team cannot win by scoring a field goal on the first possession. This simple change has a lot of strategic implications. If a team faces a long field goal opportunity on its first possession, should it try the kick or go for a first down? (Keep in mind that a field goal doesn’t have the same value as it used to.)If it’s fourth-and-long, should you punt from the opponents’ 30 rather than try a long field goal? (The right answer depends on weather conditions and the quality of your defense, but an average team with an average punter should probably pin the opponent against its goal line.) Down by three points in overtime, should you match the field goal to prolong the game or try to end it with a touchdown? (Don’t forget that a tying field goal puts you on defense in sudden death, which is a sizeable disadvantage.)
Another interesting strategic question has to do with onside kicks. As the site Pro Football Talk explained on Thursday, the overtime rules stipulate that “each team is only guaranteed the opportunity to possess the ball.” On account of that, the onside kick offers a small loophole to the team that’s forced to kick off at the start of the overtime period. If the kicking team successfully recovers an onside kick, the game reverts to the old sudden-death format—all the recovering team has to do to win is kick a field goal.
It seems unlikely that we’ll see an overtime onside kick this weekend. As New York Jets assistant coach Mike Westhoff told the New York Times, “Boy, that takes some serious nerves to do that.” The fact that an onside kick is so unlikely, however, means that it’s likely to work. When it comes to onside kicks, the likelihood of success depends heavily on the element of surprise. Over the past 10 seasons, surprise onside kicks—defined as when the kicking team, based on win probability statistics, has a better than 20 percent chance of winning at the time of the kick—are recovered around 60 percent of the time. Expected onside kicks—those that come when a team obviously must resort to an onside kick and the receiving team can plan accordingly—succeed less than 20 percent of the time.
The principle of win probability allows us to calculate when an onside kick is worthwhile. Win probability is, very simply, an estimate of how often a team in a given game situation will win a pro football game. For example, under the conventional sudden-death rules, a team receiving the kickoff will win 60 percent of the time. A team with a first down at midfield will win 68 percent of the time. These estimates are based on winning percentages from similar situations in actual NFL games.
Because the new rules are, well, new, there are no previous examples to use as a baseline. But we can make reasonable estimates by looking at the typical touchdown and field goal rates from the various yard lines. We can also look at instances when a team is down by three points on its final drive of the game but is not too rushed by the clock—roughly analogous to the situation where a team is trying to respond to an overtime field goal.
So, does it make strategic sense to start overtime with an onside kick? Under the old sudden-death format, the break-even success rate for an onside kick is 30 percent. In other words, a team will increase its probability of winning the game by attempting an onside kick so long as its chance of recovering the kick is 30 percent or greater.
Under the new rules, the price of failure isn’t nearly as high—even if you don’t recover the kick you’ll have a chance to match or beat an opponent’s field goal. Plus, a kick recovery reverts the game back to the old rules, where just one field goal ends the game.
Even so, an opening onside kick is actually a worse percentage play under the new system—the break-even rate has increased to 40 percent. Although it’s true that failing to recover isn’t as costly as it was before, a conventional deep kickoff has become even more valuable. If the kicking team stops the receiving team deep in its own territory, after all, it will get the ball back in good field position with a great chance to end the game with a chip-shot field goal.
Though the new rules have made overtime onside kicks less advantageous, the numbers still suggest that an onside attempt would be a smart play. Never once has a team opened an NFL overtime game with an onside kick. With the element of surprise, the chance of recovery should be around 60 percent—well above the 40 percent break-even point to make the onside kick a sound decision.
Another intriguing possibility would be an onside kick following a first-possession field goal. I think this would be even more surprising than an onside attempt on the opening kickoff—everyone on the opposing sideline will be deep in thought about what strategy they should use down by three points in overtime, a situation no one has ever seen. In this case, a successful recovery would end the game immediately. And even if the receiving team recovers, the kicking team can still give up a field goal and get the ball back; at that point, the game reverts to old-fashioned sudden-death overtime, where you get the ball and have the advantage.
Before doing the analysis, I was hoping this would be a slam-dunk easy call. However, the break-even recovery rate works out to be just under 40 percent, about the same as for the start of the new overtime. (The reason it’s not more advantageous is that a deep kickoff is also very valuable when up by three points.)
The key in any surprise onside kick is reading the receiving team’s tendencies. If they’ve been dropping back to set up blocks or if they’re standing too far back—as the Giants were against the Eagles a few weeks ago—then an onside kick is worth the gamble, so long as you trust the numbers. But would any coach be willing to risk his reputation on such an outlandish maneuver? Well, an onside kick helped win last year’s Super Bowl. Maybe it’s time for it to win a playoff overtime game.
September 16, 2015 at 8:32 pm #30695NERamParticipantBut even a die-hard Seahawks fan would have to grudgingly admit that getting the call right should be more important than following the protocols to the letter. And in this case, they got the call right. If the replay assistant helped to get a crucial call right, that’s a good thing.
Had to smile at that one, remembering Golden Freaking Tate vs Green Bay…
I don’t care if it takes 30 of these guys to get the call right. Jist git ‘er done, ya know?
September 17, 2015 at 3:27 pm #30729DakParticipantI think we can all agree that Jeff Triplette could use all the help he can get. The replay official could do a better job calling the game from a booth than Triplette on the field.
Why wouldn’t the NFL have an extra official in the booth to correct obvious mistakes immediately? Let’s make that happen, pronto.
And, why wouldn’t this be a reviewable play? It’s not like pass interference or holding, which are judgment calls. Either the ball hit the ground or it didn’t.
September 17, 2015 at 9:34 pm #30751NERamParticipantWhy wouldn’t the NFL have an extra official in the booth to correct obvious mistakes immediately? Let’s make that happen, pronto.
Yessir.
September 19, 2015 at 10:35 pm #30879znModeratorFisher: NFL told me Seahawks got away with a penalty on onside kick
by Michael David Smith
The officials corrected one mistake on the Seahawks’ onside kick at the start of overtime against the Rams on Sunday, giving the Rams the ball after first wrongly ruling that the Rams had committed an invalid fair catch signal. But the officials made another mistake that they failed to correct.
Rams coach Jeff Fisher says the NFL has admitted that the Seahawks should have been flagged for hitting Rams receiver Bradley Marquez after he signaled for a fair catch on the onside kick. In the confusion that began with the officials wrongly flagging Marquez for an invalid fair catch signal, they failed to realize that the Seahawks had committed the penalty.
Fisher says he told the officials after they corrected their first mistake that they also needed to enforce the penalty on the Seahawks, which would have moved the ball from the 50-yard line to the 35. But the officials didn’t listen to Fisher, a longtime member of the Competition Committee who’s well-versed in the rulebook.
“They just said, ‘We’re going to give you the ball right here. We’re not going to re-kick, so let’s go,’’’ Fisher said, via the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. “I just couldn’t convince them to enforce the penalty because they just wouldn’t put the ball on the 35-yard-line.’’
Fisher said that it was such an unusual play that he’s not surprised it wasn’t officiated perfectly, and he appreciates the league acknowledging the error.
“The thing is, when have we seen that before? It just doesn’t come up,’’ Fisher said. “I talked to [NFL vice president of officiating Dean Blandino] last night and he explained it and we were right. He said, ‘No, they made a mistake.’”
The Rams ended up kicking a field goal on the first possession of overtime and winning the game by stopping the Seahawks’ subsequent possession, so things ended well for St. Louis. But referee Jeff Triplette and his crew were far from perfect.
September 19, 2015 at 10:55 pm #30889wvParticipantWell, Fisher doesn’t wanna irk the officials by slamming them,
so he was diplomatic, but that was NOT a hard or confusing call to make.
It was pretty simple, really. It was a valid fair catch and the
Seahawks slammed into him. What’s so complicated about that?w
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