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  • March 27, 2015 at 9:15 am #21612
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    The quote game — When was this said and what was
    the context ? (no fair looking at the link coz it will give it away)

    “Instead of having us on our heels, they were the tentative
    ones,” said Cowboys defensive tackle La’Roi Glover, who faced the
    Rams twice a year while with the New Orleans Saints for five
    seasons. “Instead of trying to put points on the board, they were
    playing not to make a mistake. They max-protected like [crazy].
    I’ve never seen that.”

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    http://www.si.com/vault/2002/10/07/330249/curtains-with-the-rams-off-to-an-0-4-start-and-kurt-warner-sidelined-with-a-broken-finger-the-greatest-show-on-turf-might-have-finished-its-run

    March 27, 2015 at 9:50 am #21615
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    Darren Woodson, Dallas’s veteran strong safety, shaking his head vigorously for emphasis. “I look at them and I see us a few years ago. You lose a couple of key people, the offensive line breaks down, and all of a sudden … blam. It can happen so fast, before you even realize it.”

    Every lineman, including All-Pro left tackle Orlando Pace, who missed Sunday’s game with a torn left calf muscle, has been a liability at times.

    2002.

    OL that year: Pace missed 6 games, Nutten missed 5, and the ROT was St. Clair. The subs included Grant Williams and a washed-up Heath Irwin.

    When Bulger played, he had Pace and Nutten back, and they went 6-0 with that line up.

    March 27, 2015 at 9:57 am #21617
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    zn wrote:

    Darren Woodson, Dallas’s veteran strong safety, shaking his head vigorously for emphasis. “I look at them and I see us a few years ago. You lose a couple of key people, the offensive line breaks down, and all of a sudden … blam. It can happen so fast, before you even realize it.”

    Every lineman, including All-Pro left tackle Orlando Pace, who missed Sunday’s game with a torn left calf muscle, has been a liability at times.

    2002.

    OL that year: Pace missed 6 games, Nutten missed 5, and the ROT was St. Clair. The subs included Grant Williams and a washed-up Heath Irwin.

    When Bulger played, he had Pace and Nutten back, and they went 6-0 with that line up.

    If I’m not mistaken, during the super bowl run,
    wasnt there, like, Zero, injuries on the OLine?

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    March 27, 2015 at 10:12 am #21619
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    wv wrote:
    zn wrote:

    Darren Woodson, Dallas’s veteran strong safety, shaking his head vigorously for emphasis. “I look at them and I see us a few years ago. You lose a couple of key people, the offensive line breaks down, and all of a sudden … blam. It can happen so fast, before you even realize it.”

    Every lineman, including All-Pro left tackle Orlando Pace, who missed Sunday’s game with a torn left calf muscle, has been a liability at times.

    2002.

    OL that year: Pace missed 6 games, Nutten missed 5, and the ROT was St. Clair. The subs included Grant Williams and a washed-up Heath Irwin.

    When Bulger played, he had Pace and Nutten back, and they went 6-0 with that line up.

    If I’m not mistaken, during the super bowl run,
    wasnt there, like, Zero, injuries on the OLine?

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    In 99 Nutten missed 2 games. That was it. Out of 80 possible 1st string starts, they had 78.

    In 2001…exact same thing. Nutten missed 2. 78 out of 80 possible 1st string starts.

    Compare that to the great annus horribilis, 2007. Pace, Timmerman, and McCollum all miss significant time. The LOT is Barron. I won’t even count the missed starts–it would be too much work. If you add up the people who played the most time, the line looked like this:

    LT Alex Barron 16 games
    LG Milford Brown 15 games
    C Brett Romberg 9 games
    RG Todd Steussie 6 games
    RT Brandon Gorin 8 games

    In 2008, Steussie and Gorin were both out of football. Romberg never started again. Brown lasted one more year as a sub in Jacksonville.

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    March 27, 2015 at 10:32 am #21622
    Dak
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    It’s like someone made a deal with the Devil. Please keep our O-line intact so we can make some Super Bowl runs … we’ll accept payback later.

    When will the Devil stop getting his due?

    March 27, 2015 at 10:58 am #21626
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    I’m ready for some healthy teams.

    March 27, 2015 at 1:29 pm #21627
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    sdram wrote:

    I’m ready for some healthy teams.

    Yeah.

    If you had to pick the factors that
    generally-speaking, lead to success/failure
    in football, i guess “key injuries” would
    be my first pick.

    Like say, “injury to Starting QB” would probably be
    the worst thing that could happen to ‘most’ teams.

    “Key injuries to OLine-Unit” might very well be
    the second worst thing that could happen to a team.

    It would be interesting to see a study on those two factors.
    Ya know. A real in-depth study.

    Looks like Snisher has built some serious depth
    on the DLine. Lots of good players.
    Have they achieved that with the OLine?
    Have they tried? Look at all the No.1 picks
    on the DLine. The Oline is put together
    differently. I guess you have to choose,
    if you are a coach. Cant have no.1’s everywhere.

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    March 27, 2015 at 1:42 pm #21628
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    This year they can have their cake and eat it too. Draft a couple good offensive lineman and you have the basis of a good offensive line that will have continuity in the future and a good chance to be healthy. You have Robinson, two guys this year, and you just need one more guy to come through. Once you have a good line, it will be much easier to maintain it. imo

    Agamemnon

    March 27, 2015 at 2:29 pm #21632
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    wv wrote:
    sdram wrote:

    I’m ready for some healthy teams.

    Yeah.

    If you had to pick the factors that
    generally-speaking, lead to success/failure
    in football, i guess “key injuries” would
    be my first pick.

    Like say, “injury to Starting QB” would probably be
    the worst thing that could happen to ‘most’ teams.

    “Key injuries to OLine-Unit” might very well be
    the second worst thing that could happen to a team.

    It would be interesting to see a study on those two factors.
    Ya know. A real in-depth study.

    Looks like Snisher has built some serious depth
    on the DLine. Lots of good players.
    Have they achieved that with the OLine?
    Have they tried? Look at all the No.1 picks
    on the DLine. The Oline is put together
    differently. I guess you have to choose,
    if you are a coach. Cant have no.1’s everywhere.

    w
    v

    I’m surprised they haven’t signed more of the FA OL that have been or are available. I hope I see Barksdale back – he must be played out by now after a couple weeks of honeymoon.

    The Rams seem to be sticking to their guns regarding where they value these guys that are available – Blalock, Barksdale, Wisniewski etc. The draft appears to be deep in OL candidates into the mid-rounds – particularly in the interior and RT. How much that plays into it is open for debate I would say. Do they want a multiyear deal with one of the veterans available or do they want young affordable guys in the short term. When their third and fourth year guys contracts are up next season they have a better shot at retaining more of them.

    March 27, 2015 at 2:36 pm #21633
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    wv wrote:

    Look at all the No.1 picks
    on the DLine. The Oline is put together
    differently. I guess you have to choose,
    if you are a coach. Cant have no.1’s everywhere

    But if you look at good OLs throughout the league, they can be put together different ways. There’s the Dallas “lots of 1st round picks” approach, and then there are other teams which may spend the first rounder on a left OT, but beyond that, rely on free agents or lower round picks or both.

    The Eagles 2013 was great. (PFF ranked them 1st fwiw). Here’s how they built that line:

    LOT Peters: free agent
    LOG Mathis: free agent
    C Kelce: 6th round
    ROG Herremans: 4th round
    ROT Johnson: 1st round

    March 27, 2015 at 2:58 pm #21634
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    Doubts are forming re: Wisniewski. I thought he is supposed to be pretty good, and there are a few teams in need of a center.

    March 27, 2015 at 3:16 pm #21636
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    Zooey wrote:

    Doubts are forming re: Wisniewski. I thought he is supposed to be pretty good, and there are a few teams in need of a center.

    Injured. Or rather, recovering.

    http://www.joebucsfan.com/2015/03/stefen-wisniewski-and-the-bucs/

    Wisniewski is recovering from shoulder surgery after last season when he played with a torn labrum. No team has been willing to meet his request of $4 million per season

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