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  • #23620
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    Jim Thomas ‏@jthom1

    Average athletically, but a scrapper and a mauler.

    Josh Norris ‏@JoshNorris

    Well, the #Rams intentions are clear. Run the ball.

    Pete Prisco ‏@PriscoCBS

    Havenstein is a total mauler in the run game. He’s an A for the #Rams. Gurley will be happy.

    RosterWatch ‏@RosterWatch

    Snead drafted for need by taking Havenstein. Everyone does it. Some do it less. what a reach. #Rams

    Ian Wharton ‏@NFLFilmStudy

    Another old school tackle goes early. Havenstein is a good run blocker, and may end up as an average tackle. Just not my type at OT

    Ron Clements ‏@Ron_Clements

    Rob Havenstein does what #Wisconsin offensive linemen do – maul defensive linemen. #Rams got a solid guy for the O-line

    Michael Silver ‏@MikeSilver

    ‘We got ourselves a road-grader’ — Jeff Fisher, in Rams war room, after potential trade-down scenario fell through…

    Pro Football Focus ‏@PFF

    New Rams Offensive Tackle Rob Havenstein had the 13th highest run blocking grade of all draft eligible OTs in 2014

    Nathan Jahnke ‏@PFF_NateJahnke

    Rob Havenstein allowed just 1 sack; tied for 7th best among Power 5 Draft Eligible OTs

    Matt Brown ‏@MattBrownCFB

    The Rams drafting Havenstein to block for Gurley might be the best part of the draft so far.

    Ian Kenyon ‏@IanKenyonNFL

    Havenstein is a stud. He’s massive. He’s strong. He pushes people around.

    Bob McGinn ‏@BobMcGinn

    Rob Havenstein in D2 to Rams a real stunner. Some teams expressed major medical concerns (knee, feet) with the #Badgers’ enormous RT.

    #23621
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    DR RAM

    I had him as more of a 3rd to 4th, but he can play. He anchors well, and uses his length well. Smart kid. Not athletic, can get stronger. High football IQ. He’s one of those guys that just got the job done.

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    jrry32

    Havenstein is a solid player. Has some athletic limitations and stiffness but he’ll run block for you and has enough length and bounce in his feet to stay on the outside. But also could play OG for you. IMO, he’s very comparable to Alex Boone. Kid is solid. Natural and instinctive.
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    merlin

    Coach Bou will have his hands full with the guy getting his pass pro where it needs to be but you know what? This guy is a power run blocker RT through and through. Him and Saffold on the right is gonna be bringin the pain in the running game.

    Havenstein would struggle in an offense that passes a lot, but in a balanced, running offense he’s gonna be fine especially at RT. Another thing I like about him is he’s naturally strong and able to play but with a pro workout regimen he might fill out with a lot more muscle.

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    Deadpool

    I had Havenstein as a 4th round pick. But it was obvious to anyone that Havenstein was going to go early in the 3rd. Rams had very little choice at that point. I have mentioned numerous times I like a mauler more then a technician, well he is a mauler.

    Positives:
    tough mentality
    Strong and can absorb the rush
    A mauler
    great reach
    decent quickness for a guy his size

    Negatives:
    Lacks lateral mobility – IE issues with double moves and inside speed rush
    bends at the waist at times – can be corrected
    lunges (due to being a waist bender) again correctable

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    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/rob-havenstein?id=2552363

    OT/ROB HAVENSTEIN

    6′ 7″ 321 lbs.

    OVERVIEW

    Started in 42 of his 54 games played. Considered the unquestioned leader of the Wisconsin offense. Came into Wisconsin at almost 390 pounds and has steadily worked his weight down during his time there. Weighed in at 332 pounds at Senior Bowl and dropped to 321 by the combine. Named first-team All-American by AFCA and named first-team All-Big Ten in 2014, starting all 14 games at right tackle and opening gaping holes for teammate Melvin Gordon.

    In 2013, named second-team All-Big Ten while starting every game at right tackle. Started every game in 2012 at right tackle as a sophomore. Played in 13 games in 2011 and redshirted in 2010. In high school in Maryland, named first-team all-state as a senior team captain and lettered in both football and basketball.

    PRO DAY RESULTS

    Bench press: 20 reps of 225 pounds

    STRENGTHS

    Massive tackle with very functional length. Looks oafish, but feet are much better than the eye expects. Takes quick steps and good angles for proper positioning to wall off defenders on gap plays. Above-average power in run game and runs legs to create movement. Drive blocker by nature. Block winner at point of attack. Uses well-timed punch and has adequate foot quickness to set out to edge speed. Aggressive, play-finishing demeanor on the field. Plus body control and balance on second-level blocks with ability to sustain. Can brace against power and has feet to counter inside moves in pass pro. Shows ability to mirror and has a wide “success zone.”

    WEAKNESSES

    Stiffness in knees causes him to come out of stance way too tall. Is almost never under the pads of opponent. Too often has to sumo wrestle at impact to get defender centered. Initial lateral quickness not good enough to count on him with back-side cut-offs. Keeps hands too low pre-punch. Unathletic build with zero bubble. Some scouts worry about stiffness becoming an even greater problem after first few years in the league.

    #23622
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    Total breakdown: Rams draft OT Rob Havenstein in second round

    By Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/18072/total-breakdown-rams-draft-ot-rob-havenstein-in-second-round

    The pick: Rob Havenstein, offensive tackle, Wisconsin

    My take: The Rams had no choice but to start bolstering the offensive line and give running back Todd Gurley some powerful blockers to open up running lanes. They did it in a big way with Havenstein, who is listed at 6-foot-8, 321 pounds, and comes from the ultimate in power rushing attacks at Wisconsin. Havenstein probably needs some work in pass protection but should be competent enough to step in at right tackle right away. The Rams continue to show their commitment to maximizing their run game so it’s hard to find fault in continuing to invest in that endeavor.

    Been around the block: Havenstein comes to St. Louis with no shortage of playing experience, which figures to be important if the Rams expect him to step in as a starter at right tackle right away. Havenstein played in 54 games with 42 starts for the Badgers, including 41 consecutive starts at right tackle over the last three years. He was one of the key pieces to a line that paved the way for the Badgers to rush for a school-record 320.1 yards per game in 2014.

    Whither Barksdale?: If Havenstein is to take over the right tackle job, that could spell the end of Joe Barksdale’s time in St. Louis. Barksdale remains on the free-agent market but the Rams have kept in touch with him throughout the offseason with the idea that he could eventually return at a rate lower than he initially sought. Given the investment in Havenstein and the presence of Garrett Reynolds as the swing tackle, it’s possible that a reunion with Barksdale might no longer be in the cards

    #23625
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    St. Louis Rams Second Round Draft Pick OL Robert Havenstein Conference Call – May 1, 2015

    St. Louis Rams Second Round Draft Pick OL Robert Havenstein Conference Call – May 1, 2015

    (On if he expected to be selected this early in the draft)
    “It was definitely a surprise. I’m still kind of speechless right now. It’s an unbelievable opportunity and I’m so excited right now.”

    (On who called him from the Rams)
    “I talked to Coach ‘Fish,’ (Jeff Fisher) I talked to (offensive line) Coach ‘Bou’ (Paul Boudreau) for a bit. It was awesome. I got the phone call and had to go inside and get better (cell) service.”

    (On if he had a bad connection first)
    “It’s just my house.”

    (On where home is)
    “Mt. Airy, Maryland.”

    (On how much contact he had with the Rams prior to the draft)
    “I’ve had a decent amount of contact. Coach Boudreau had a pro day, he was the one who ran it. I met with him for a little bit on the pro day to go over some classroom stuff, some football stuff. He was the one who worked us out.”

    (On if he had a private workout with the Rams)
    “Just the pro day.”

    (On if the Rams’ offensive system suits his style of play)
    “I think so. Like I said before, I’m so unbelievably flattered. It would be my pleasure to help in anyway possible.”

    (On if he told the Rams they had the wrong number)
    “No, I definitely took it pretty seriously.”

    (On if he weighed 380 pounds when he joined the University of Wisconsin)
    “Yes, I did.”

    (On how he dropped the extra weight)
    “I stopped eating terribly. Just making better choices and putting your mind to it.”

    (On what his favorite food item was that he cut out)
    “One of the bigger things was just soda. There’s a lot of calories in there. It was just a choice I had to make if I was going to be the football player I wanted to be.”

    (On if the Rams mentioned where he will play on the offensive line)
    “No, not yet. Anywhere I can get on the field just to help out the organization in any way. Just try to be the best player that I can be regardless of the spot.”

    (On how he describes his game and what he brings to the table)
    “I’d like to think I’m a hard working O-lineman, a tough offensive lineman. Definitely, the guys before me coming through Wisconsin carved that path. I did my best to follow in their footsteps and put my own print on it. Just coming out and being a hardworking guy and being a smart player and an overall good offensive lineman.”

    (On if he had both shoulder injuries while at Wisconsin)
    “One was the summer coming into college. One was during.”

    (On if the injuries limit his weight training)
    “No, it does not.”

    (On what it was like working as a unit to produce offensive success with RB Melvin Gordon in the backfield)
    “It was awesome. Anytime you can get in there and have Melvin as your tailback, it’s going to be pretty special. He’s an exceptional player and he’s an even better person. Just special to have a chance to block for the guy.”

    (On if he blocked for Broncos RB Montee Ball in 2012)
    “Yes, blocked for Montee for a little bit, yes.”

    (On his experience blocking for Ball)
    “It was awesome. They’re both great backs kind of in their respective right. They both do things really well. Montee was a heck of a player. Once again, I was definitely just luck to have a chance to go ahead and block for him.”

    (On if he’s having a get together at his home in Maryland)
    “Yes, most of my family came down to my house. They’re all kind of staying here and we’re just hanging out, just enjoying each other.”

    (On his family’s reaction)
    “It was unbelievable. They were just as excited as I was. I’ve had great family support all throughout my five years at Wisconsin. I’ve got an unbelievable family that loves me unconditionally. They’re just so proud of me and so excited for the opportunities that I have.”

    (On if there was a lot of yelling and screaming)
    “Oh yeah.”

    – May 1, 2015

    St. Louis Rams Second Round Draft Pick OL Robert Havenstein Conference Call – May 1, 2015

    (On if he expected to be selected this early in the draft)
    “It was definitely a surprise. I’m still kind of speechless right now. It’s an unbelievable opportunity and I’m so excited right now.”

    (On who called him from the Rams)
    “I talked to Coach ‘Fish,’ (Jeff Fisher) I talked to (offensive line) Coach ‘Bou’ (Paul Boudreau) for a bit. It was awesome. I got the phone call and had to go inside and get better (cell) service.”

    (On if he had a bad connection first)
    “It’s just my house.”

    (On where home is)
    “Mt. Airy, Maryland.”

    (On how much contact he had with the Rams prior to the draft)
    “I’ve had a decent amount of contact. Coach Boudreau had a pro day, he was the one who ran it. I met with him for a little bit on the pro day to go over some classroom stuff, some football stuff. He was the one who worked us out.”

    (On if he had a private workout with the Rams)
    “Just the pro day.”

    (On if the Rams’ offensive system suits his style of play)
    “I think so. Like I said before, I’m so unbelievably flattered. It would be my pleasure to help in anyway possible.”

    (On if he told the Rams they had the wrong number)
    “No, I definitely took it pretty seriously.”

    (On if he weighed 380 pounds when he joined the University of Wisconsin)
    “Yes, I did.”

    (On how he dropped the extra weight)
    “I stopped eating terribly. Just making better choices and putting your mind to it.”

    (On what his favorite food item was that he cut out)
    “One of the bigger things was just soda. There’s a lot of calories in there. It was just a choice I had to make if I was going to be the football player I wanted to be.”

    (On if the Rams mentioned where he will play on the offensive line)
    “No, not yet. Anywhere I can get on the field just to help out the organization in any way. Just try to be the best player that I can be regardless of the spot.”

    (On how he describes his game and what he brings to the table)
    “I’d like to think I’m a hard working O-lineman, a tough offensive lineman. Definitely, the guys before me coming through Wisconsin carved that path. I did my best to follow in their footsteps and put my own print on it. Just coming out and being a hardworking guy and being a smart player and an overall good offensive lineman.”

    (On if he had both shoulder injuries while at Wisconsin)
    “One was the summer coming into college. One was during.”

    (On if the injuries limit his weight training)
    “No, it does not.”

    (On what it was like working as a unit to produce offensive success with RB Melvin Gordon in the backfield)
    “It was awesome. Anytime you can get in there and have Melvin as your tailback, it’s going to be pretty special. He’s an exceptional player and he’s an even better person. Just special to have a chance to block for the guy.”

    (On if he blocked for Broncos RB Montee Ball in 2012)
    “Yes, blocked for Montee for a little bit, yes.”

    (On his experience blocking for Ball)
    “It was awesome. They’re both great backs kind of in their respective right. They both do things really well. Montee was a heck of a player. Once again, I was definitely just luck to have a chance to go ahead and block for him.”

    (On if he’s having a get together at his home in Maryland)
    “Yes, most of my family came down to my house. They’re all kind of staying here and we’re just hanging out, just enjoying each other.”

    (On his family’s reaction)
    “It was unbelievable. They were just as excited as I was. I’ve had great family support all throughout my five years at Wisconsin. I’ve got an unbelievable family that loves me unconditionally. They’re just so proud of me and so excited for the opportunities that I have.”

    (On if there was a lot of yelling and screaming)
    “Oh yeah.”

    #23627
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    Many are reporting that Tennessee was very interested in havenstein and would have picked him with the first pick of the third round. Instead they had to settle with a different tackle.

    #23632
    Mackeyser
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    I like the pick. He’s an identity pick. He fits what we want to do, he doesn’t HOLD and he found a way to not allow sacks without holding.

    I’m looking forward to the guys on the right side having to really battle these rookies because Coach Boo is gonna have them breathing fire to break these RBs loose…

    Sports is the crucible of human virtue. The distillate remains are human vice.

    #23672
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    Kind of Blue/Gold

    McShay LOVED the Havenstein pick on the ESPN draft coverage. I usually DVR both the NFL Network and ESPN coverage, watching them in that order.

    2014 First Team All-Big Ten

    Rough telecast transcription:

    McShay – “There isn’t an uglier football player in this draft than Rob Havenstein. Watch the combine, look at this guy, he can’t play, he’s like a junior member of a beer league softball team. But put on the tape, and he is one of the best OL you are ever going to watch. I don’t know how he gets there. He isn’t that athletic, doesn’t run great 40 times, somehow, he is always in position, he knows the angles, he’s a veteran, and he’s so much stronger football-wise than he is in the weight room. Look at this guy, consistently wins at the second level, sealing off, doing whatever it required in order to get those big creases for Melvin Gordon, and now Todd Gurley, who was the first back taken, is going to take advantage. I really like this pick for St. Louis.”

    Dilfer – “The way OL make up for a lack of athleticism is being synched together, their eyes, hands and feet. When you watch Havenstein play, he’s synched up. What his eyes see, his hands and feet react to, this guy’s a mauler. Yes, he had to wear a t-shirt in the pool when he was in high school, but he is laughing at all those guys who laughed at him now, he is going to dominate DEs in the run game in the National Football League.”

    #23674
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    sounds like he can step right in and start from day 1.

    what i like most is hearing and reading about his demeanor. sounds like a fisher right tackle. loving this pick more and more.

    #23693
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    Brugler on Havenstein:

    10. ROB HAVENSTEIN | Wisconsin
    2010: Redshirted
    6073|321 lbs|5SR Mount Airy, Md. (Linganore HS) 5/13/1992 (age 22) #78 GRADE 3rd-4th Round

    MEASUREABLES Arm: 33 3/4 | Hand: 09 7/8 | Wingspan: 82 1/4

    COMBINE 40-YD: 5.46 | 10-YD: 1.88 | 20-YD: 3.16 | BP: 16 | VJ: 28 1/2 | BJ: 08’00” | SS: 4.87 | 3C: 8.28 PRO DAY BP: 20

    PRONUNCIATION HAY-ven-stine
    2011: (13/1) 2012: (14/14) 2013: (13/13) 2014: (14/14) Total (54/42)

    1 RT 14 RT 13 RT 14 RT 42 RT

    BACKGROUND: A three-star offensive tackle recruit out of high school, Robert “Rob” Havenstein considered offers from Maryland, Wake Forest and others before deciding to enroll at Wisconsin, redshirting in 2010. He served as a back-up redshirt freshman in 2011, earning his first start at right tackle. Havenstein became the full-time starter at right tackle as a sophomore in 2012, starting all 14 games. He started all 13 games at right tackle in 2012, earning Second Team All-Big Ten honors. Havenstein again started every game as a senior in 2014, earning First Team All-Big Ten and numerous All-American honors. He accepted his invitation to the 2015 Senior Bowl.

    STRENGTHS: Mammoth frame with wide shoulders and thickness throughout…uses angles well with strong hands/wrists to turn his man and wall off run lanes, especially to the outside, allowing the run game to run off tackle – can seal inside and outside…bullies defenders with his upper body strength, using a physical punch to jolt and stonewall rushers off the edge – times his punch to strike when rushers start to reach…squares and shuffles well in tight spaces with better quickness than expected for his size…intense finisher who looks to dominate and eliminate his man…functional length to engage and drive defenders into the parking lot…worked hard in the weight room to reshape his body, losing 50+ pounds since arriving in Madison…mature, motivated individual and takes well to coaching…athletic bloodlines – twin brother (Jeff) played Division-I basketball at Longwood University (Va.)…had some snaps at left tackle with an outstanding starting résumé, including 41 straight starts and a school-record 54 games played.

    WEAKNESSES: Not the most athletic and lacks ideal lateral range for the position…top-heavy and needs to maintain a manageable weight…heavy feet with too much sand in his pants, lumbering in his kickslide with tight footwork…lacks ideal knee flexibility and too much of a waist bender…leverage will always be an issue for him – not the type of blocker who will consistently sink and sit in his stance…can get to the second level, but fails to redirect and adjust to moving targets…has focused so much on losing weight, but needs to fully develop his upper and lower body strength – only 16 bench press reps is inexcusable for the position…minor durability concerns, missing spring practice in 2012 following shoulder surgery.

    SUMMARY: Wisconsin has a long history of producing offensive linemen to the NFL, including seven draft picks at the position the last four years, and Havenstein is the latest product off the Badgers’ conveyor belt. He is a heavy mover and lacks ideal athleticism and range for the position, which will force him inside to right guard for some teams. Havenstein can move just enough to pass protect in small areas, but his ability as a run blocker is what will keep him earning checks in the NFL. He’s a people mover and also excels with angles to latch-and-control, shielding defenders from run lanes, something Montee Ball, James White and Melvin Gordon took full advantage of the last three seasons. Havenstein probably isn’t for everyone, but projects as a borderline top-100 draft choice and starting right tackle for a power-run scheme.

    #23700
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    Ourlads on RH:

    Three year starte at RT WHO passes the physical look test. The amount Airy, MD native was a first team All-Big 10 in 2014. Good athletic feet for a big man to seal his target by setting the edge of a defense. Knows how to use his long arms and plays with a competitive attitude. The huge tackle can lock up a pass rusher. Does a good job of sitting down, locking out, and being patient in pass protection. Projects to be a serviceable starte in the NFL at the RT position. Had a strong week at the Senior Bowl. A long and physical tackle who reminds scouts of former Eagle John Runyan. Demonstrates good lateral agility and foot movement. Has good hip flexibility placement with his initial punch. Not always explosive or powerful hip roll and extension, but gets movement with functional foot mobility and athletic ability. Physical on down defensive linemen and works to finish his blocks. Lacks the thick power producing backside to drive defenders off the ball in man blocking schemes. Must work to bend his knees because of his tall frame. Not particularly agile in space or on the second level blocking linebackers on a fast flow. OSR: 34/41. Fourth/fifth round. (A-33 5/8, H-10, BO-16, 10-1.89).

    #23702
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    A long and physical tackle who reminds scouts of former Eagle John Runyan.

    This comparison keeps coming up.

    And, a kwik reminder—Runyan went to the Eagles as a free agent. The team that drafted him was the Fisher Titans. Round 4, 1996. Same year as Fred Miller…who then replaced Runyan as a free agent when JR went to Phil.

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    #23846
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    Pre-draft article:

    http://host.madison.com/sports/college/football/badgers-football-rob-havenstein-nears-end-of-up-and-down/article_ad46dc1b-3e35-5969-9157-13486ab3b803.html

    Badgers football: Rob Havenstein nears end of up-and-down NFL draft process

    It took a while for Todd McShay to take University of Wisconsin right tackle Rob Havenstein seriously.

    The ESPN NFL Draft analyst, like many others, was initially fooled by the 6-foot-7, 320-pounder’s unathletic frame, and his on-field play with the Badgers didn’t always look pretty.

    Then McShay studied the game tape. Havenstein always found a way to get the job done.

    “You look at the combine pictures and you’re like, ‘Ugh, is this guy really a legitimate prospect?’” McShay said. “You look at his numbers, they’re not great. But then you put on the tape and it’s just, over and over and over again, he finds a way to get in position, he takes the right angle and he’s just grinding it out and figuring out a way to finish.”

    After thinking he would slap a late-round grade on Havenstein and move on, McShay wound up giving the tackle a mid-third-round grade.

    Like McShay’s change of heart, Havenstein’s draft stock has taken a few wild turns in the months leading up to this week’s NFL Draft, which will run Thursday-Saturday at the Auditorium Theatre of Roosevelt University in Chicago.

    He’s one of two UW players, along with potential first-round pick Melvin Gordon, sure to be selected in one of the draft’s seven rounds, and Havenstein will hope to be selected Friday night, when Rounds 2 and 3 are completed.

    The concerns surrounding Havenstein elevated at the NFL Combine in February, when he didn’t show much athleticism and benched 225 pounds just 16 times, a low number for an offensive lineman.

    It was a performance that seemed to wash away his fantastic showing at the Senior Bowl in January.

    “He’s a much, much, much better football player than he is athlete,” McShay said. “I would say, there may be the greatest discrepancy in terms of just raw athleticism and combine numbers versus tape that there is in this draft.

    “I think he belongs in Day 2 of the draft, and I think he’s got a chance to become a starter in the league. It’ll be interesting to track his career and see if he can overcome some of the physical limitations. I’m not going to bet against him. I’ll put it that way.”

    Havenstein bench pressed again at the Badgers’ Pro Day in March, upping his total to a more respectable 20 reps.

    “My numbers are my numbers, and it was the best I could do,” Havenstein said. “I thought I could do more than what I did at the combine. I was pleased with it. It was improvement.”

    While Gordon and Havenstein know they’ll be drafted at some point this week, other former UW players are simply hoping for an invite to training camp.

    McShay said he has free-agent grades on defensive lineman Warren Herring and offensive lineman Dallas Lewallen. Wide receiver Kenzel Doe and defensive back Peniel Jean were also at UW’s Pro Day hoping to impress enough to earn a contract after the draft.

    Herring has the best chance to sneak into the last couple of rounds Saturday, according to McShay.

    He’s a versatile player who showed impressive athleticism for a defensive lineman at the Badgers’ Pro Day.

    Some believe he played a bit out of position last season as a nose guard and could excel as a 4-3 defensive tackle or 3-4 defensive end.

    “I feel like anywhere they put me is going to work,” Herring said. “But I feel like probably a 4-3 defensive tackle, 3-4 end, one of those two (would be best).

    “I feel like I can play anywhere. I’ve played everywhere across the defensive line, and I feel very comfortable. That’s one thing teams can expect out of me — 100 percent effort wherever they put me.”

    #23862
    Cal
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    Here’s a couple of videos of Havenstein in action. I was pleasantly surprised by his ability to pass block. He looks impressive if he can get his hands on the defensive player.

    Havenstein takes reps at approximately 3:00, 6:00, & 9:00. It’s also interesting to watch him and compare him to a guy like Clemmings who struggled.

    The senior bowl video:


    ” title=”Havenstein at Senior Bowl Practice

    In the Big 10 title game Havenstein played against two guys who should be playing on Sundays–Joey Bossa and Michael Bennett. Havenstein got his ass kicked by Michael Bennett 3 times. On the first 2 occasions Bennett was too quick for Havenstein to block. Havenstein completely whiffs. On another occasion Bennett beat Havenstein for a sack although I would say the qb held the ball too long. On a side note, Bennett looks like a helluva pick for the Jags. How did he last until round 6????

    Havenstein also lost his balance and allowed Bossa to make a TFL (I think?) on another play.

    This was not an impressive performance though I thought Havenstein looked good pass blocking again. I only watched the first half since Wisconsin totally imploded and was losing 40-0 or something at halftime.

    Big 10 Title Game:

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    #23866
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    Hey Cal good post.

    On youtube vids. Don’t use command functions–just drop the raw URL into the post box. (I fixed it already, so this is fyi for next time).

    Here’s another (though it’s a link)

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    Havenstein v. Gregory

    http://draftbreakdown.com/video/rob-havenstein-vs-nebraska-2014/

    #24099
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    Ramsey

    Walters Draft gave the Rams a WTF Grade on Rob Havenstein…Walters said Havenstein looked horrible at the Senior Bowl.

    I went to Youtube and watched all the Senior Bowl practices and highlights from the game… Good Golly Miss Molly! Havenstein was outstanding! (y)Oh, saw Rob setup too high on one practice rep, but besides that one rep, Rob owned every defensive lineman on every play. WTF is wrong with Walter’s Draft?

    Then I watched the entire Wisconsin- Nebraska game. What did I see? Havenstein vs (Cowboys 2nd round pick) Randy Gregory. Oh yeah! I saw Badger RB Melvin Gordon set a NCAA single game rushing record! Havenstein punished Gregory! Gregory literally limped away like beaten, broken puppy.

    Havenstein is very smart offensive lineman. Although other Badger linemen had multiple penalties, Rob never got called for a penalty. Havenstein carried out two player blocking assignments on multiple plays. I saw pancake blocks.

    As long as the QB stayed in the pocket Havenstein didn’t allow pressures much less sacks. Havenstein plays with his head on a swivel, always looking for someone to hit. Havenstein is farm boy, football strong! I’m not worried about Rob’s bench press.

    I expect Rob to be a stalwart, starting Right Tackle for the Rams for a decade or more! I got a feeling this guy is truly Ram Tough!

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