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    Billy_T
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    I read this and it made me go, wtf, several times. The weakness of the argument here is self-evident to me, and it follows a pattern of similar attempts to confuse a blindingly obvious situation. Oh, and the MSM has written about this. The WaPo and the NYT had articles up immediately, as soon as reporters were told about it.

    The Call for Criminal Prosecution of Clinton, Comey: Will Media Suppress This Major News?

    Wednesday’s criminal referral by 11 House Republicans of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton as well as several former and serving top FBI and Department of Justice (DOJ) officials is a giant step toward a Constitutional crisis.

    Named in the referral to the DOJ for possible violations of federal law are: Clinton, former FBI Director James Comey; former Attorney General Loretta Lynch; former Acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe; FBI Agent Peter Strzok; FBI Counsel Lisa Page; and those DOJ and FBI personnel “connected to” work on the “Steele Dossier,” including former Acting Attorney General Sally Yates and former Acting Deputy Attorney General Dana Boente.

    With no attention from corporate media, the referral was sent to Attorney General Jeff Sessions, FBI Director Christopher Wray, and U.S. Attorney for the District of Utah John Huber. Sessions appointed Huber months ago to assist DOJ Inspector General (IG) Michael Horowitz. By most accounts, Horowitz is doing a thoroughly professional job. As IG, however, Horowitz lacks the authority to prosecute; he needs a U.S. Attorney for that. And this has to be disturbing to the alleged perps.

    This is no law-school case-study exercise, no arcane disputation over the fine points of this or that law. Rather, as we say in the inner-city, “It has now hit the fan.” Criminal referrals can lead to serious jail time. Granted, the upper-crust luminaries criminally “referred” enjoy very powerful support. And that will come especially from the mainstream media, which will find it hard to retool and switch from Russia-gate to the much more delicate and much less welcome “FBI-gate.”
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    As of this writing, a full day has gone by since the letter/referral was reported, with total silence so far from The New York Times and The Washington Post and other big media as they grapple with how to spin this major development. News of the criminal referral also slipped by Amy Goodman’s non-mainstream Democracy Now!, as well as many alternative websites.

    The 11 House members chose to include the following egalitarian observation in the first paragraph of the letter conveying the criminal referral: “Because we believe that those in positions of high authority should be treated the same as every other American, we want to be sure that the potential violations of law outlined below are vetted appropriately.” If this uncommon attitude is allowed to prevail at DOJ, it would, in effect, revoke the de facto “David Petraeus exemption” for the be-riboned, be-medaled, and well-heeled.

    Stonewalling

    Meanwhile, the patience of the chairmen of House committees investigating abuses at DOJ and the FBI is wearing thin at the slow-rolling they are encountering in response to requests for key documents from the FBI. This in-your-face intransigence is all the more odd, since several committee members have already had access to the documents in question, and are hardly likely to forget the content of those they know about. (Moreover, there seems to be a good chance that a patriotic whistleblower or two will tip them off to key documents being withheld.)

    The DOJ IG, whose purview includes the FBI, has been cooperative in responding to committee requests for information, but those requests can hardly include documents of which the committees are unaware.

    Putting aside his partisan motivations, House Intelligence Committee Chair Devin Nunes (R-CA) was unusually blunt two months ago in warning of legal consequences for officials who misled the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court in order to enable surveillance on Trump and his associates. Nunes’s words are likely to have sent chills down the spine of those with lots to hide: “If they need to be put on trial, we will put them on trial,” he said. “The reason Congress exists is to oversee these agencies that we created.”

    Whether the House will succeed in overcoming the resistance of those criminally referred and their many accomplices and will prove able to exercise its Constitutional prerogative of oversight is, of course, another matter—a matter that matters.

    And Nothing Matters More Than the Media

    The media will be key to whether this Constitutional issue is resolved. Largely because of Trump’s own well earned reputation for lying, most Americans are susceptible to slanted headlines like this recent one—“Trump escalates attacks on FBI …”—from an article in The Washington Post, commiserating with the treatment accorded fired-before-retired prevaricator McCabe and the FBI he (dis)served.

    Nor is the Post above issuing transparently clever warnings—like this one in a lead article on March 17: “Some Trump allies say they worry he is playing with fire by taunting the FBI. ‘This is open, all-out war. And guess what? The FBI’s going to win,’ said one ally, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to be candid. ‘You can’t fight the FBI. They’re going to torch him.’ ” [sic]

    Mind-Boggling Criminal Activity

    What motivated the characters now criminally “referred” is clear enough from a wide variety of sources, including the text messages exchange between Strzok and Page. Many, however, have been unable to understand how these law enforcement officials thought they could get away with taking such major liberties with the law.

    None of the leaking, unmasking, surveillance, “opposition research,” or other activities directed against the Trump campaign can be properly understood, if one does not bear in mind that it was considered a sure thing that Secretary Clinton would become President, at which point illegal and extralegal activities undertaken to help her win would garner praise, not prison. The activities were hardly considered high-risk, because candidate Clinton was sure to win.

    But she lost.

    Comey himself gives this away in the embarrassingly puerile book he has been hawking, “A Higher Loyalty”—which amounts to a pre-emptive move motivated mostly by loyalty-to-self, in order to obtain a Stay-Out-of-Jail card. Hat tip to Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone for a key observation, in his recent article, “James Comey, the Would-Be J. Edgar Hoover,” about what Taibbi deems the book’s most damning passage, where Comey discusses his decision to make public the re-opening of the Hillary Clinton email investigation.

    Comey admits, “It is entirely possible that, because I was making decisions in an environment where Hillary Clinton was sure to be the next president, my concern about making her an illegitimate president by concealing the re-started investigation bore greater weight than it would have if the election appeared closer or if Donald Trump were ahead in the polls.”

    The key point is not Comey’s tortured reasoning, but rather that Clinton was “sure to be the next president.” This would, of course, confer automatic immunity on those now criminally referred to the Department of Justice. Ah, the best laid plans of mice and men—even very tall men. One wag claimed that the “Higher” in “A Higher Loyalty” refers simply to the very tall body that houses an outsized ego.

    I think it can be said that readers of Consortiumnews.com may be unusually well equipped to understand the anatomy of FBI-gate as well as Russia-gate. Listed below chronologically are several links that might be viewed as a kind of “whiteboard” to refresh memories. You may wish to refer them to any friends who may still be confused.

    2017

    Russia-gate’s Mythical ‘Heroes’ June 6, 2017

    The Democratic Money Behind Russia-gate Oct. 29, 2017

    The Foundering Russia-gate ‘Scandal’ Dec. 13, 2017

    What Did Hillary Clinton Know? Dec. 25, 2017

    2018

    The FBI Hand Behind Russia-gate Jan. 11, 2018

    Will Congress Face Down the Deep State? Jan. 30, 2018

    Nunes Memo Reports Crimes at Top of FBI and DOJ Feb. 2, 2018

    ‘This is Nuts’: Liberals Launch ‘Largest Mobilization in History’ in Defense of Russiagate Probe Feb. 9, 2018

    Nunes: FBI and DOJ Perps Could Be Put on Trial Feb. 19, 2018

    ‘Progressive’ Journalists Jump the Shark on Russia-gate March 7, 2018

    Intel Committee Rejects Basic Underpinning of Russiagate March 14, 2018

    McCabe: A War on (or in) the FBI? March 18, 2018

    Former CIA Chief Brennan Running Scared March 19, 2018

    Ray McGovern works with Tell the Word, a publishing arm of the ecumenical Church of the Saviour in inner-city Washington. He served as an Army Infantry/Intelligence officer and then a CIA analyst for a total of 30 years. In retirement, he co-created Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS).

    First off, it’s not a serious argument to say the media is supposedly in cahoots against X, Y or Z, because they tend to be on the same page, relative to that person, etc. Would McGovern argue that same-page reporting on the Nazis, slavery, the pollution of our planet, etc. etc. necessarily indicates something nefarious? What matters is the truth of said reporting, not it’s seeming uniformity. Are they telling the truth about Trump and the probe?

    Given that the vast majority of what I read and see on the topic uses his exact words, video, audio of his public speech, the eventual confirmation by his own administration, I’d say, yeah. They tell the truth for the most part. Time after time we’ve seen angry denials from Trump and his team, only to watch them eventual walk everything back, thus vindicating the original reporting. So, McGovern really hasn’t made ANY case regarding veracity, validity, etc. etc. here. None.

    And he seems stupidly willing to accept the claims from those eleven Republican House members who have proven themselves to be Trump-diehards. Why such immediate acceptance? Why assume, for instance, that the folks named are guilty of criminality? Especially, IMO, the two agents, Strozek and Page, who had their private messages stolen from them and leaked by Republicans, and did nothing wrong, other than utter anti-Trump (along with anti-Sanders, anti-Clinton, and others) opinions in what they thought was a matter of private exchange. Is McGovern now saying it should be illegal to voice, privately, angst about an incoming president, even anger? Seriously?

    What did they do that actually broke the law? He doesn’t say. He just assumes that because the people named are supposedly “deep staters,” it must be horrible.

    The big problem here, zooming out, at least in my opinion, is the ongoing inability of too many people to see that the Trump probe does not vindicate Clinton and the Dems, and that a person can want it to go through to the bitter end AND detest Clinton and the Dem power structure too. One does not conflict with the other. From all I read from this little corner of the media/Internet, the overriding concern is that any support for the Trump investigation results in at least these terrible things:

    1. Vindication of HC and the Dems
    2. Support for the so-called “deep state”

    or . . . and this trips up a smaller percentage of that little corner . . .

    3. Heightens tensions with Russia to a dangerous degree.

    There is no evidence to support ANY of the above, and the search for truth should never allow itself to be constrained by such things in the first place. Getting to the truth about Trump and his henchmen does NOT prevent getting to the truth about the “deep state” or ramp up tension with Russia. When have we NOT been mired in that tension? Getting to the truth about Trump does NOT give Clinton the White House, or alter the fact that she was a terrible candidate, who ran a terrible campaign, etc. etc.

    #85301
    Billy_T
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    From where I sit, it’s too obvious for words. Led by Nunes, Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows, those eleven House members are desperately trying to kill the investigation into easily the most corrupt president-elect we’ve ever had. It’s. Not. Close. And why? Why would they do any of this if he were innocent? They wouldn’t. The referrals are unprecedented. They’ve never happened before in our history. Again, why? No innocent man acts in the way Trump has acted since Day One, and no innocent man needs all of this protection from the truth.

    And I’m saying that’s the case even if we completely ignore the possible election interference/cooperation with Russia. In fact, I’d be fine if they dropped that altogether and just concentrated on Trump’s business practices and his straight up election-law crimes — like those payoffs. If the probe concentrated on nothing but that, it would expose the most corrupt person ever to enter the White House, with mob ties for decades, protected by an endless series of NDAs, protected by folks like Cohen and now the GOP itself.

    . . . .

    And, again, I have never, ever understood why supposedly left of center media outlets would work so hard to defend him, especially given what he’s done since he entered office . . . the tax cuts for himself and the super-rich, the privatization of millions of acres of public lands, sold off to Big Oil and Big Coal . . . . the abject surrender of the EPA to the Extraction industry . . . . accelerated bombings, drones, war-fronts, plus the easing up of already too lax “rules of engagement.”

    There just isn’t a single thing he’s done, on any front, that a leftist should support. Why all the energy spent defending him? Clinton lost. She’s not an issue. Taking down Trump won’t give her the presidency. It won’t even give it to the Dems. The GOP will still hold the White House, at least until 2020.

    Why fight so hard on his behalf, and, in effect, the GOP’s?

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