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  • July 1, 2024 at 6:46 pm #151305
    zn
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    July 1, 2024 at 10:14 pm #151310
    zn
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    from PFF, Ranking the top wide receivers by open-target rate from 2023: https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-ranking-top-wide-receivers-open-target-rate-separation-2023

    6. COOPER KUPP, LOS ANGELES RAMS

    Total Targets Open Targets Open-Target Rate
    100 87 87.0%

    Injuries have hampered Cooper Kupp over the past two seasons, but he still gained separation on 87 targets in 2023. The 31-year-old ranked second on the Rams in targets (100), target rate (27.2%) and gains of 20-plus yards (10). Kupp leads the Rams’ receiving corps in open-target rate over the past three seasons (86.8%) and ranks eighth in receiving yards (4,001) over that span.

    July 1, 2024 at 11:13 pm #151312
    Zooey
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    Well that’s not correct, and I would be embarrassed if I put that out.

    July 2, 2024 at 12:03 am #151313
    zn
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    Zooey wrote:

    Well that’s not correct, and I would be embarrassed if I put that out.

    It looks to me like he’s counting the post-season in his numbers. Seems to me that most yearly stats count the regular season only, and if you are counting the playoffs you should openly say that since most people probably assume those kinds of stats are by default regular season only. So for example we always say Dickerson got 2105 yards in 84, not 2212 (which is what you get when you add the playoff game from that year).

    July 3, 2024 at 3:52 pm #151324
    zn
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    Warren Sharp@SharpFootball
    % of 3rd down incompletions which were due to receiver error:

    28% – Joe Burrow
    27% – Kyler Murray
    26% – Matthew Stafford
    26% – Justin Herbert
    23% – C.J. Stroud
    22% – Dak Prescott
    21% – Will Levis
    18% – Trevor Lawrence
    18% – Aidan O’Connell
    18% – Joshua Dobbs
    17% – Kirk Cousins
    17% – Lamar Jackson
    17% – Patrick Mahomes
    16% – Desmond Ridder
    16% – Joe Flacco
    16% – Derek Carr
    16% – Josh Allen
    16% – Sam Howell
    15% – Jordan Love
    15% – Ryan Tannehill
    14% – Jared Goff
    14% – Jake Browning
    14% – Brock Purdy
    14% – Tua Tagovailoa
    14% – Justin Fields
    14% – Geno Smith
    13% – Bailey Zappe
    13% – Baker Mayfield
    12% – Gardner Minshew
    12% – Bryce Young
    11% – Kenny Pickett
    10% – Jalen Hurts
    9% – Mac Jones
    7% – Zach Wilson
    6% – Russell Wilson

    *2023 regular season, min 200 total 2023 pass att

    July 3, 2024 at 4:00 pm #151325
    zn
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    Doug Farrar@NFL_DougFarrar
    Been working on this for a while. Do NFL teams really NEED true No. 1 receivers anymore? Those teams without one are moving more and more to scheme and receiver distribution and location (H/T @gregcosell) to mitigate that deficit.
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    Making No. 1 receivers out of the aggregate

    “It’s more about the collective unit of all those guys and just the rapport that they’re building with Jordan throughout the course of the offseason,” Packers head coach Matt LaFleur said of his receiver group…. “I’m excited to get to training camp with them.

    “All those guys had their moments where they were the leading receiver in a game. I feel really good about the collective unit. The hardest part is we feel so good about them, it’s hard to get everybody the amount of touches that you’d like to get, but that’s a good problem to have.”

    It’s a good problem to have when you’re not dependent on one receiver, and you can scheme your receivers open to their best abilities.

     

    July 3, 2024 at 4:08 pm #151326
    zn
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    zn wrote:

    % of 3rd down incompletions which were due to receiver error:

    28% – Joe Burrow

    27% – Kyler Murray

    26% – Matthew Stafford

    I just think that was a combination of things, all unique to 2023. Higbee and Kupp being beat up when they were on the field and not their normal selves. Nacua actually being a rookie in certain ways in spite of not really being one in other spectacular ways. Robinson not really playing till the 2nd half of the season. Atwell not really being a solid 3rd or 4th WR type.

    July 3, 2024 at 6:07 pm #151327
    wv
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    Helmets.   Tier one – Rams.

    Tier two — Cowboys, Chargers, Packers

    Tier three — Steelers, 49ers, Saints, Bears, Eagles, Browns.

    Tier four — all the rest, except the Bengals.

    Tier 42 – Bengals.

    July 3, 2024 at 6:45 pm #151328
    zn
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    July 3, 2024 at 8:13 pm #151331
    Zooey
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    zn wrote:
    Zooey wrote:

    Well that’s not correct, and I would be embarrassed if I put that out.

    It looks to me like he’s counting the post-season in his numbers. Seems to me that most yearly stats count the regular season only, and if you are counting the playoffs you should openly say that since most people probably assume those kinds of stats are by default regular season only. So for example we always say Dickerson got 2105 yards in 84, not 2212 (which is what you get when you add the playoff game from that year).

    This is kinda embarrassing.

    I was talking about the more substantive subject of helmet rankings.

    July 3, 2024 at 11:02 pm #151332
    zn
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    Zooey wrote:

    I was talking about the more substantive subject of helmet rankings.

    Well yes. Obviouly. That’s what I was responding to.

     

     

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