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  • #151305
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    #151310
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    from PFF, Ranking the top wide receivers by open-target rate from 2023: https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-ranking-top-wide-receivers-open-target-rate-separation-2023

    6. COOPER KUPPLOS ANGELES RAMS

    Total Targets Open Targets Open-Target Rate
    100 87 87.0%

    Injuries have hampered Cooper Kupp over the past two seasons, but he still gained separation on 87 targets in 2023. The 31-year-old ranked second on the Rams in targets (100), target rate (27.2%) and gains of 20-plus yards (10). Kupp leads the Rams’ receiving corps in open-target rate over the past three seasons (86.8%) and ranks eighth in receiving yards (4,001) over that span.

    #151312
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    Well that’s not correct, and I would be embarrassed if I put that out.

    #151313
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    Well that’s not correct, and I would be embarrassed if I put that out.

    It looks to me like he’s counting the post-season in his numbers. Seems to me that most yearly stats count the regular season only, and if you are counting the playoffs you should openly say that since most people probably assume those kinds of stats are by default regular season only. So for example we always say Dickerson got 2105 yards in 84, not 2212 (which is what you get when you add the playoff game from that year).

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    Warren Sharp@SharpFootball
    % of 3rd down incompletions which were due to receiver error:

    28% – Joe Burrow
    27% – Kyler Murray
    26% – Matthew Stafford
    26% – Justin Herbert
    23% – C.J. Stroud
    22% – Dak Prescott
    21% – Will Levis
    18% – Trevor Lawrence
    18% – Aidan O’Connell
    18% – Joshua Dobbs
    17% – Kirk Cousins
    17% – Lamar Jackson
    17% – Patrick Mahomes
    16% – Desmond Ridder
    16% – Joe Flacco
    16% – Derek Carr
    16% – Josh Allen
    16% – Sam Howell
    15% – Jordan Love
    15% – Ryan Tannehill
    14% – Jared Goff
    14% – Jake Browning
    14% – Brock Purdy
    14% – Tua Tagovailoa
    14% – Justin Fields
    14% – Geno Smith
    13% – Bailey Zappe
    13% – Baker Mayfield
    12% – Gardner Minshew
    12% – Bryce Young
    11% – Kenny Pickett
    10% – Jalen Hurts
    9% – Mac Jones
    7% – Zach Wilson
    6% – Russell Wilson

    *2023 regular season, min 200 total 2023 pass att

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    Doug Farrar@NFL_DougFarrar
    Been working on this for a while. Do NFL teams really NEED true No. 1 receivers anymore? Those teams without one are moving more and more to scheme and receiver distribution and location (H/T @gregcosell) to mitigate that deficit.
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    Making No. 1 receivers out of the aggregate

    “It’s more about the collective unit of all those guys and just the rapport that they’re building with Jordan throughout the course of the offseason,” Packers head coach Matt LaFleur said of his receiver group…. “I’m excited to get to training camp with them.

    “All those guys had their moments where they were the leading receiver in a game. I feel really good about the collective unit. The hardest part is we feel so good about them, it’s hard to get everybody the amount of touches that you’d like to get, but that’s a good problem to have.”

    It’s a good problem to have when you’re not dependent on one receiver, and you can scheme your receivers open to their best abilities.

     

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    % of 3rd down incompletions which were due to receiver error:

    28% – Joe Burrow

    27% – Kyler Murray

    26% – Matthew Stafford

    I just think that was a combination of things, all unique to 2023. Higbee and Kupp being beat up when they were on the field and not their normal selves. Nacua actually being a rookie in certain ways in spite of not really being one in other spectacular ways. Robinson not really playing till the 2nd half of the season. Atwell not really being a solid 3rd or 4th WR type.

    #151327
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    Helmets.   Tier one – Rams.

    Tier two — Cowboys, Chargers, Packers

    Tier three — Steelers, 49ers, Saints, Bears, Eagles, Browns.

    Tier four — all the rest, except the Bengals.

    Tier 42 – Bengals.

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    #151331
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    Well that’s not correct, and I would be embarrassed if I put that out.

    It looks to me like he’s counting the post-season in his numbers. Seems to me that most yearly stats count the regular season only, and if you are counting the playoffs you should openly say that since most people probably assume those kinds of stats are by default regular season only. So for example we always say Dickerson got 2105 yards in 84, not 2212 (which is what you get when you add the playoff game from that year).

    This is kinda embarrassing.

    I was talking about the more substantive subject of helmet rankings.

    #151332
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    I was talking about the more substantive subject of helmet rankings.

    Well yes. Obviouly. That’s what I was responding to.

     

     

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    roberto clemente@rclemente2121
    giants were sacked once per every 7 pass attempts. bills were sacked once per every 25 pass attempts.
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    RAMS ON FILM@RamsOnFilm
    The Rams posted an outstanding record of 27-0 when Marshall Faulk rushed for 100+ yards.
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    Marshall Faulk@marshallfaulk
    Knowledge relaxes me. Football is all about playing faster. You play faster when you know more.
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    Marshall Faulk@marshallfaulk
    Knowledge relaxes me.

    Knowledge… gives me that blank, thousand-mile-stare, as i recognize capitalism’s destruction of the biosphere, and the universe’s expansion into nothingness.

     

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    #151349
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    The stat on protecting the QB: pretty big factor in getting to the playoffs, right? The Super Bowl winner placed second.

    The team with the best overall stats, offense and defense, isn’t always the winner, of course. No guarantees that regular season success translates post-season. But the eventual winner tends to rank highly, at least in certain areas. They likely have at least a solid defense, do well on third down conversions, and protect the QB. The latter also usually means the QB stays healthy, which is vital for wins, especially post-season.

    Would be interesting to see someone review stats for the last ten years, and see if there’s any general correlation. Most important stats, etc. etc.

    Of course, the game has changed. A great running attack once was a critical indicator. Not so much any more. Though I’d bet it matters even now during a playoff run.

    Hope all is well —

     

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