Rams Trade For #1 Pick!!!!

wv wrote:

Isiah58 wrote:

Would the Rams have preferred to get their QB in the third round? Absolutely. But it is like a lottery ticket, right? How many third round QBs have been picked in the last 15 years? How many have become Russell Wilson? Can it be done? Yes. Is it something that you can plan on? Probably not. Its not a perfect solution, but if they are right the cost is insignificant. If they are wrong, well, maybe those same draft picks would have been wrong too. Let’s hope they choose wisely and the QB becomes the next Big Ben or even Phillip Rivers.

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Well the important thing iz,
I wont have to wait around for two hours on draft night
waiting for the Rams pick.

People need to factor that in,
i think.

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Yes indeed. Thats the most salient analysis in this thread! The Rams are on the clock!

WV: he was drafted in the Third round. The seahawks
didnt give up a gazzilion premium picks for him.
They just chose wisely in the third round.

Seattle knew the odds on a 3rd round pick at qb working out. That’s why they spent all that guaranteed money signing Flynn as a FA. So, same as Brady at 6, or Warner for nothing…it’s part luck with Wilson.

Odds on hitting a 3rd round qb? I will look at 20 years, 94 to 2013 (to 2013 cause that’s far enough back to know).

In that period, 24 qbs were taken in the 3rd round. Of those, I count only Schaub and Wilson as hits (Foles, I can’t bring myself to count…he fell apart too early in his career).

So that’s 2 out of 24. 8.3%.

How about qbs picked 1st in round 1? Going back 40 years, to 74.

I count 18 total picked. I count 4 misses out of 18 — Couch, Vick (though that one’s complicated), Carr, and Russel. So it’s 77.8% hits.

That’s 8.3% v. 77.8%.

I’ll take those odds.

Ozoneranger wrote:

Horrible trade. Here’s why…

1. They gut the better part of two drafts to take one unproven rookie and if it’s Wentz, a rookie that for all intents and purposes played against minor league college competition. He also ran the read option in college and, I’m guessing here, was not trained to read a defense. Most QBs coming out of college these days are similarly challenged.
2. The future…they’ll be paying the price for up to six years. Players taken this year and next would be the nucleus of the team five years down the road. This team will be dependent on expensive free agents or other teams cast offs to fill out the roster in the coming years. And we’ve seen that scenario play out in the recent past. Didn’t work out too well.
3.There is no one on Fisher’s staff that can up-coach this kid and have him ready to play in Game one, or build a game plan where he can succeed right away, in my opinion. And this QB WILL start no matter what.

And what of Mannion? They never even gave that kid a chance.

This is a fucking disaster of epic proportions. A desperation move if I ever saw one.

Yes, if they draft a QB that doesn’t work out, they are screwed. For years.

zn wrote:

Odds on hitting a 3rd round qb? I will look at 20 years, 94 to 2013 (to 2013 cause that’s far enough back to know).

In that period, 24 qbs were taken in the 3rd round. Of those, I count only Schaub and Wilson as hits (Foles, I can’t bring myself to count…he fell apart too early in his career).

So that’s 2 out of 24. 8.3%.

How about qbs picked 1st in round 1? Going back 40 years, to 74.

I count 18 total picked. I count 4 misses out of 18 — Couch, Vick (though that one’s complicated), Carr, and Russel. So it’s 77.8% hits.

That’s 8.3% v. 77.8%

Another take on the same kinda thing.

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Ramsey…

For those of you who are upset that we sold the FARM for “THE ARM” , think upon this…

Since Terry Bradshaw was drafted #1 in 1970, 21 QB’s have been drafted with the first pick of the draft. Let’s take a quick peek at those 21 QB’s.

16 out 21 of these #1 drafted QB’s were ALL Pro. So, If the past predicts the future, then the odds of the Ram’s drafting a future ALL Pro QB are 76%! So many Superbowl appearances.

16 Superbowl Championships!

The odds of a pedestrian QB taking a team to the Superbowl are extremely low.

No matter what, the most expensive position ‘QB” will be CHEAP for 5 years, thus allowing the Rams to substitute free agency signings for our missed drafted picks. I’m not a big fan of free agency, but I got a feeling we will sign a major wide receiver within a year or two.

The majority of our young roster is on the fringe of their prime years, and now we will have a franchise QB to Our Rams into the playoffs and beyond.

zn wrote:

zn wrote:

Odds on hitting a 3rd round qb? I will look at 20 years, 94 to 2013 (to 2013 cause that’s far enough back to know).

In that period, 24 qbs were taken in the 3rd round. Of those, I count only Schaub and Wilson as hits (Foles, I can’t bring myself to count…he fell apart too early in his career).

So that’s 2 out of 24. 8.3%.

How about qbs picked 1st in round 1? Going back 40 years, to 74.

I count 18 total picked. I count 4 misses out of 18 — Couch, Vick (though that one’s complicated), Carr, and Russel. So it’s 77.8% hits.

That’s 8.3% v. 77.8%

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For those of you who are upset that we sold the FARM for “THE ARM” , think upon this…

Since Terry Bradshaw was drafted #1 in 1970, 21 QB’s have been drafted with the first pick of the draft. Let’s take a quick peek at those 21 QB’s.

16 out 21 of these #1 drafted QB’s were ALL Pro. So, If the past predicts the future, then the odds of the Ram’s drafting a future ALL Pro QB are 76%! So many Superbowl appearances.

16 Superbowl Championships!

The odds of a pedestrian QB taking a team to the Superbowl are extremely low.

No matter what, the most expensive position ‘QB” will be CHEAP for 5 years, thus allowing the Rams to substitute free agency signings for our missed drafted picks. I’m not a big fan of free agency, but I got a feeling we will sign a major wide receiver within a year or two.

The majority of our young roster is on the fringe of their prime years, and now we will have a franchise QB to Our Rams into the playoffs and beyond.

Yeah but this years draft is supposedly light in QB talent making the choice more risky.

zn wrote:

bnw wrote:

Yeah but this years draft is supposedly light in QB talent making the choice more risky.

No, no one said it was light in talent at qb. That’s next year.

Thats not what I’ve seen. From a scout on NFL.com:

“There is talent there, but it’s marginal,” said the scout on the quarterback class of 2016. “They’ve all been inflated by the fact they know how to work out at the combine, but the tape isn’t really all that impressive to me. Not a single one who makes you go, ‘Wow.’ The best teams can hope for is that one of these guys becomes Trent Dilfer.”

While there’s a chance the reference was leaning toward the Super Bowl winning Trent Dilfer, it’s much more likely that a journeyman with a career completion percentage of 55.5 was the version of Dilfer on the scout’s mind.

Again on NFL.com:

“I’d hate to be a team in need of a quarterback. The best two in this draft might end up being from Memphis and North Dakota State and that ought to scare the (expletive) out of you. It takes some courage to turn that card in.” — NFC scout

From sbnation.com:

Now that the NFL season is a quarter of the way finished, we’re starting to see some obvious trends in regards to the 2016 NFL Draft. The most immediate takeaway is that a lot of NFL teams need a quarterback, and it doesn’t look like they’ll be available in the draft.

Because of that, we could see another draft where quarterbacks go too high, like in 2011 where Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert and Christian Ponder were all taken too high instead of more highly rated players at other positions. Like Cam Newton in 2011, there appears to be a lone standout quarterback in California’s Jared Goff.

There’s more but you get the gist. I see you later added to your post of only one sentence. Still doesn’t affect what I posted. No one is claiming 4 franchise QBs in this draft at this time that I’ve seen. It is silly season to be sure but that is over the top. If it turns out to be true I hope the Rams get the best of the bunch.

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zn wrote:

bnw wrote:

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“I’d hate to be a team in need of a quarterback. The best two in this draft might end up being from Memphis and North Dakota State and that ought to scare the (expletive) out of you. It takes some courage to turn that card in.” — NFC scout

That’s one view out of MANY. The consensus I see after reading (and posting) MANY views is that there are 2 and possibly 3 good franchise level qbs this year, and maybe even 4.

You can’t be selective with these things. Read up to about 2 dozen different assessments. The idea that this year is light at qb is not the consensus. And others will back me up on this.

I stand by silly season and hope I’m proven wrong. There is a whole industry devoted to silly season so inflation of talent, especially QB could be rampant but I don’t sense that at all. Looks like a ho-hum bunch at QB at best.