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March 16, 2017 at 9:44 am #66339AgamemnonParticipantMarch 16, 2017 at 9:48 am #66340nittany ramModerator
Dunbar official, per @caplannfl. 1-year deal. https://t.co/XbV6S1YxE7 https://t.co/VuGYioIkHH
— TurfShowTimes (@TurfShowTimes) March 16, 2017
March 16, 2017 at 3:49 pm #66347ZooeyModeratorenh.
Seems like a big waste of money. I think they could draft somebody in the 5th round who would produce as much. In fact, I like what they already have on their roster better.
March 16, 2017 at 8:58 pm #66356znModeratorThis is the way I see Dunbar.
Last year Washington used RB Chris Thompson basically as a pass catcher out of the backfield.
This is Thompson:
5-8, 195lb
To my eye Dunbar looks like someone he will use to reproduce what he did with Thompson.
March 20, 2017 at 12:16 am #66495znModeratorhttp://www.scout.com/nfl/rams/story/1763384-rams-add-running-back-lance-dunbar
Dunbar could etch out an intriguing role with the Rams having previously shown he can be a viable receiving option at his position while holding invaluable experience on special teams as both a punt and kick returner.
March 20, 2017 at 6:57 am #66500nittany ramModeratorDunbar could etch out an intriguing role with the Rams having previously shown he can be a viable receiving option at his position while holding invaluable experience on special teams as both a punt and kick returner.
The Rams already had that in Benny Cunningham. So why not just resign Benny?
March 20, 2017 at 8:37 am #66503znModeratorThe Rams already had that in Benny Cunningham. So why not just resign Benny?
Who knows. I can point to one difference between BC and LD. LD is much more of a change of pace, smaller, elusive back type than BC. So my little theory is that LD gives McV a guy who is like Chris Thompson in Washington. Thompson had a role in that offense and I just think McV wants to reproduce that with a similar style back. So it’s not just that you throw to the back underneath the coverage on 3rd down, you do it to a guy who has open field running chops. BC was much more of a north south guy without the same open field quickness as LD.
March 21, 2017 at 6:24 pm #66544sanbaggerParticipantDunbar could etch out an intriguing role with the Rams having previously shown he can be a viable receiving option at his position while holding invaluable experience on special teams as both a punt and kick returner.
The Rams already had that in Benny Cunningham. So why not just resign Benny?
Yea…I really like Benny and he is one of the best kick off return guys in the league.
I thought he was a surefire signing.
March 21, 2017 at 10:37 pm #66549znModeratorThe #Bears have signed former #Rams RB Benny Cunningham to a 1-year contract.
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 22, 2017
March 22, 2017 at 8:17 pm #66605znModeratorLance Dunbar believes he can bring much-needed versatility to Rams’ offense
RICH HAMMOND
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/dunbar-747250-rams-season.html
Listed at 5-foot-8, 195 pounds, Lance Dunbar won’t physically be a big part of the Rams’ offense in 2017, but Dunbar’s versatility should allow him to play an important role.
Dunbar signed a one-year contract with the Rams this month that could be worth up to $3 million, and it seems to be a good free-agency fit. The Rams need Dunbar, 27, to be their backup running back, a pass-catching threat out of the backfield and a kickoff returner. And in a way, Dunbar needs the Rams.
Less than two years ago, Dunbar, then with Dallas, suffered a massive knee injury. He returned in 2016, ahead of schedule, but admittedly didn’t put forth his best showing. Dunbar touched the ball only 27 times last season, but new Rams coach Sean McVay apparently has some big ideas for Dunbar.
“He talked to me about what they were looking for, the reason they wanted to bring me in,” Dunbar said Wednesday. “They look at me the same way I look at myself, the kind of player I am. That meant a lot to me, coming from Dallas where I was a third-down back. I want to show the world what I can do.”
Dunbar understands his limits. His size always has been a negative, and largely contributed to him being undrafted out of North Texas in 2012 and signing with Dallas. He’s not an every-down power back.
But the Rams already have one of those, in Todd Gurley. They needed a complement, and perhaps an upgrade from incumbent backup Benny Cunningham, who signed with Chicago this week. That should be Dunbar, and McVay already has a specific role in mind.
McVay previously worked as offensive coordinator in Washington, where he utilized versatile back Chris Thompson. Last season, Thompson had 68 carries, 49 receptions and returned 17 kickoffs. Dunbar has a similar skill set, and is the exact same listed height and weight as Thompson.
It’s no surprise that, in McVay’s meeting with Dunbar this month, Thompson’s name got mentioned.
“The fact that I’ve seen (McVay) let (Thompson) do those things,” Dunbar said, “it gave me a little more confidence, and belief in him, that he will allow me to do those things.”
Dunbar’s return to complete health also will be a positive. Dunbar had just started to establish himself as an NFL player when, four games into the 2015 season, he tore knee ligaments and his patellar tendon during a kickoff return.
Dunbar’s rehabilitation went far faster than expected — he returned for the latter part of last season’s training camp — but the Cowboys clearly had made contingency plans. Dunbar had a low spot on the depth chart, behind backs Ezekiel Elliott, Alfred Morris and Darren McFadden.
Limited mostly to a third-down role in 2016, Dunbar had nine carries for 31 yards and 16 receptions for 122 yards.
“I wasn’t myself at the beginning of the season,” Dunbar said. “I was just jumping in. I had to get comfortable again and get my feet under me and get trust in my knee. It took a while, but midway through the season I started feeling like myself again.”
That feeling could get tested further in 2017, because Cunningham also served as the Rams’ primary kickoff returner. Pharoh Cooper had some success in that role last season, but Dunbar also would seem to be a candidate for kickoff returns.
Dunbar said he hadn’t yet talked to McVay about returning kicks, but expressed no trepidation.
“Whatever they need me to do,” Dunbar said. “I know I got injured on kickoff return, but that didn’t scare me away from kickoff return. I’m a football player and I love making plays.”
March 23, 2017 at 10:02 am #66611znModeratorI can point to one difference between BC and LD. LD is much more of a change of pace, smaller, elusive back type than BC. So my little theory is that LD gives McV a guy who is like Chris Thompson in Washington. Thompson had a role in that offense and I just think McV wants to reproduce that with a similar style back.
Turns out that’s probably right.
… http://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/la-sp-rams-dunbar-barwin-20170322-story.html
“I’m more of a slasher — make guys miss, catch the ball out of the backfield,” Dunbar said. “We have two different styles. … It’s hard for people to defend, switching up.”
He said McVay, the Washington Redskins’ offensive coordinator the last three seasons, spoke about utilizing him in a way similar to how the Redskins deployed running back Chris Thompson last season. Thompson rushed for 68 yards and three touchdowns and caught 49 passes, two for touchdowns.
“We’re very similar,” Dunbar said. “I catch the ball out of the backfield. I can run routes. I can run the ball.
“I’ve seen [McVay] let him do those things. It gave me a little more confidence and more belief in him that he will allow me to do those things.”
March 24, 2017 at 9:11 am #66631znModeratorenh.
Seems like a big waste of money. I think they could draft somebody in the 5th round who would produce as much. In fact, I like what they already have on their roster better.
As per stuff in this thread, I think that Dunbar gives McVay an option that reproduces what he did in Washington with Chris Thompson. That would be an experienced change of pace back who can catch and has real open field moves, as opposed to BC, who was a decent third down back but was much more of just a north/south runner and didn’t have the same kind of open field chops. It means on third down for example you have a guy who can maybe create some open field action rather than (like Cunnningham) just simply get the down without the big play possibilities.
They can still draft a back lower, but it would probably be a different kind of back, not a veteran 3rd down jitterbug like Thompson was in Washington and Dunbar is supposed to be in LA.
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March 24, 2017 at 5:09 pm #66645znModeratorRams see a role for previously underused Lance Dunbar
Alden Gonzalez
LOS ANGELES — Sean McVay’s words resonated with Lance Dunbar.
The free-agent running back was in Southern California for a visit last week and sat down with McVay, the Los Angeles Rams’ rookie head coach, who walked Dunbar through his potential role in the offense. McVay wound up describing the way Dunbar always saw himself while buried in the Dallas Cowboys’ depth chart. He illustrated Dunbar’s traits the way Dunbar himself would recount them to someone else.
“He had me going,” Dunbar said. “He had me ready to play.”
Dunbar ultimately signed with the Rams on a one-year contract that could pay him up to $3 million. He will be the Rams’ change-of-pace running back, a complement for the power game of Todd Gurley, and he will also be an option in the passing game. The name “Chris Thompson” came up during Dunbar’s meeting with McVay, which makes sense.
Over the past two years, while McVay called plays as the Washington Redskins’ offensive coordinator, Thompson found a way to be productive despite finding himself behind backs such as Alfred Morris, Robert Kelley and Matt Jones in rushing attempts. From 2015 to 2016, Thompson rushed for 572 yards on 103 attempts and caught for 589 yards on 84 catches.
Thompson, like Dunbar, boasts blazing speed, so the Redskins frequently ran him to the outside. Like on the play below, out of the pistol formation against the Detroit Lions, when Thompson ultimately got around the edge for a 16-yard gain:
Sometimes, the Redskins would also spread the field out wide and have him run up the middle on shotgun sets, like on this delayed handoff against the Cowboys, which resulted in a 6-yard gain:
But just as big a weapon were quick passes that got Thompson the ball in open space. Below is the beginning of a play that has Thompson run out to the flat. Redskins quarterback Kirk Cousins picked up a blitz and got rid of it quickly to Thompson, who picked up 11 yards before getting pushed out of bounds:
And here, once again against the Cowboys, Thompson didn’t have anybody to block, so he eventually ran to the outside and picked up 9 yards through the air:
“We were in the same division, so I’ve seen those guys [the Redskins] play, and I’ve seen Chris play,” Dunbar said. “We are very similar. I catch the ball in the backfield. I can run routes. I can run the ball. To see him do those things gave me a little bit more confidence and more belief in [McVay], that he will allow me to do those things.”
Dunbar made the Cowboys’ roster as an undrafted free agent in 2012. He had a breakout game against the Oakland Raiders late in 2013, rushing for 82 yards on 12 carries, but also sustained a knee injury that forced him to miss the final four games. He was on his way toward carving out a role in 2015, with 21 receptions for 215 yards through the first three games, but he tore his ACL, MCL and patellar tendon on a kickoff return.
“It was really hard,” Dunbar said. “Just throughout my career, every time I got an opportunity — and I made the best of it — something bad goes wrong.”
Dunbar was ready to go by the start of the 2016 season, returning a lot sooner than expected, but he never felt right. He admitted to rushing his way back and said he didn’t really feel right until about midway through the season. By then, Ezekiel Elliott was well on his way toward a dominant rookie season and the Cowboys’ offense was rolling without him. Dunbar never had a chance, and now he’s starting fresh.
He believes his style can complement Gurley.
“My style is different than his,” Dunbar said. “I’m more of a slasher, making guys miss, catching the ball out of the backfield. We have two different styles. If you mix my style with his style, it brings a lot to the table. It’s hard for people to keep switching up, switching up, because it’s very different. In-game, when I come in, you’re going to have to adjust. And it’s kind of hard to adjust in-game.”
March 26, 2017 at 4:56 am #66678znModeratorBreak down the film on new #Rams RB Lance Dunbar
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