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May 8, 2015 at 6:27 pm #24316znModerator
Rams set to get first look at rookie class
By Nick Wagoner
http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/18345/rams-set-to-get-first-look-at-rookie-class
EARTH CITY, Mo. — In technical terms, the St. Louis Rams are the only team in the NFL that doesn’t have “minicamps.” But while the rest of the league holds rookie minicamps this weekend, the Rams will be hosting their rookies for what coach Jeff Fisher prefers to call an orientation.
Regardless of what it’s called, the team’s nine-man rookie class will be on the field at Rams Park on Friday and Saturday afternoon for their first interaction with the coaching staff. In years past, Fisher has discussed using the first weekend with rookies to show them how the Rams like to do things, including meetings, practice and more. The on-field portion of the work is essentially no more than a glorified conditioning session intended to get the rookies up to speed before they join the veterans.
The nine-man rookie draft class won’t be the only players on the field this weekend. Although the team has yet to makes its undrafted rookie class official, the roster has room for 17 undrafted rookies. It’s been common practice for the Rams to find a couple of undrafted gems in recent years. Starting safety Rodney McLeod was once an undrafted free agent out of Virginia and has performed well enough that the Rams tendered him at the second-round level as a restricted free agent this year.
The Rams have also been able to find other contributors via the so-called “eighth round,” including names like safety Cody Davis, running backs Trey Watts and Chase Reynolds, end Ethan Westbrooks and more. That might not be the case this year.
“This draft is probably a little less deep than last year,” general manager Les Snead said. “Last year, you get a Marcus Roberson (cornerback) in free agency, I don’t know if we’re getting a Marcus Roberson this year in free agency.”
It’s possible the Rams won’t even use all of their available spots on undrafted free agents to fill out the 90-man roster. As of this writing, they had agreed to terms or signed 15 players. They could theoretically leave space for a couple of veteran free agents as well.
It’s also common for teams, including the Rams, to use the weekend to bring in a number of players on a tryout basis. Those players get a chance to impress the coaching staff enough to earn an undrafted rookie contract after the weekend.
First-round running back Todd Gurley will be present but it’s safe to assume he won’t be participating at full speed like his teammates. When the weekend is through, the Rams have a few more weeks of the offseason conditioning program before starting organized team activities on June 2.
May 8, 2015 at 8:47 pm #24322znModeratorSt. Louis’ newest acquisitions invade Rams Park for rookie minicamp
Elisabeth Meinecke
FOX Sports MidwestST. LOUIS — On Friday, 26 guys showed up for their first day of work at Rams Park.
The Rams’ 2015 draft class and rookie free agents fanned out over the indoor football field at the team’s practice facility, receiving instructions from coaches, executing drills and trying to prove they belonged on an NFL field.
“It’s kinda the same feeling as your first practice in college — you want to make a good impression,” said Oregon State quarterback Sean Mannion, who was drafted 89th overall last weekend. “So maybe the first couple routes, I was throwing it a little harder than I really needed to. But it wasn’t nervous. It’s fun to be out here, and back practicing.”
More than one rookie spent the week between last weekend’s draft and Friday’s workout prepping physically for the challenge. Linebacker Bryce Hager, one of two defensive players selected in the seventh round by St. Louis, tried to fit in a couple hours of conditioning and light lifting each day, with the goal of staying flexible and in shape.
“It’s a lot of running out here,” he said of the workouts, as the St. Louis humidity hung in the air. Fortunately, the city’s elevated temperature didn’t floor him — he played both college and high school ball in the Lone Star State.
“(I’m) used to the heat,” he said.
Missouri wide receiver Bud Sasser, who didn’t participate fully in the drills due to a pending physical, resumed his normal workouts the day after getting a call from the Rams. He worked out a couple times in the Dallas area with quarterback Bryce Petty, who was drafted by the New York Jets in the fourth round.
“We got some good work in,” Sasser said of their practices together, though he added the two didn’t really exchange tips other than a “best of luck” here and there.
Since arriving in St. Louis, the rookies haven’t had much time to explore their new city, but Mannion says he’s looking forward to it — and he already has an inside connection.
“That’s what’s exciting, too, is you’re moving into a new place, you want to kind of check it out,” he said. “I know (what’s) really nice for me is having (punter) Johnny Hekker here. We were teammates in college. Every person I talk to around the building just talks about Johnny non-stop, so hopefully he can show me the ropes when we have a little bit of time off.”
For those who don’t have a Hekker to guide them, Sasser might prove a good alternative. While at Mizzou, he’d make occasional trips to the city and has already participated in one of its biggest traditions: attending Cardinals games. He admitted, however, he doesn’t have a favorite Cards player — yet.
“I’ll have to find one,” he said.
Gurley dresses, does not participate
• The Rams’ first-round draft pick, Todd Gurley, was at Rams Park Friday, but did not participate fully in the drills as he continues rehabbing from a torn ACL.
“I would want to be back as soon as possible, but I’m not a doctor or a therapist, so I can’t really tell you when I’ll be back,” Gurley said. “I’m just taking it day by day.”
May 8, 2015 at 9:19 pm #24323znModeratorGurley, Rams Rookies Begin Orientation
By Myles Simmons
The new running back is in the building.
Along with his 23 fellow rookies and two tryout players, Todd Gurley, the No. 10 overall selection in the 2015 draft, was in attendance and on the field for the Rams’ first day of rookie orientation.
Though he’s limited while in recovery from his season-ending ACL tear last November, Gurley said it was still special to put on the horns for the first time.
“Oh it felt good,” Gurley said. “It felt real good, just to get the jersey, the helmet, the gloves. It’s been a while, so it definitely felt good just to be able to do that.”
Right now, though, there isn’t much else he is physically cleared to do. He did participate in some of the walk-thru portions of practice. Keeping in mind that it’s his first day at Rams Park, Gurley said that he’ll be getting on top of the next steps in his rehab very soon. He added that he’s been able to run for the past two months, and has been doing certain running back drills — like the ladder — during the process.
But as for a timetable, the running back said that’s not up to him.
“I’d like to be back as soon as possible, but I’m not a doctor or a therapist, so I can’t really tell you when I’ll be back,” Gurley said. “I’m just taking it day-by-day really.”
Head coach Jeff Fisher has previously stated that the team will likely be conservative in the way it eases Gurley back. And as for right now, Gurley says he still has plenty to do mentally when the offense is practicing.
“I can still go through the plays in the back by myself, so that’s always a good thing,” Gurley said, adding that it’s not a boring exercise. “It’s not like I know everything. I don’t know anything, really. So I’m trying to keep my mind busy.”
And once he’s full go, Gurley said that it’s definitely a dream of his to be a bell cow-type back. Many stated throughout the draft process that the No. 10 selection has that kind of potential, and he wants to live up to it.
“Everybody wants to be that three-down back, to be able to stay on the field the majority of the snaps,” Gurley said. “I definitely believe in it, and that’s what I’m working hard to come back and try to be.”
Gurley added that he feels some personal pride in being the first running back taken in the first round since 2012.
“And then Melvin [Gordon] went after me,” Gurley said. “It’s just good. And it’ll make everybody else –running backs around the world — feel good. We didn’t disappear.”
Perhaps the most notable player to campaign for the bell cow back is former Rams RB Steven Jackson, who founded SaveTheRunningBack.org. While the video has its satirical qualities, Gurley is well aware of Jackson’s history when it comes to the Rams franchise.
That was clear when Gurley was explaining his decision to wear No. 30.
“There really aren’t too many numbers available. There’s 39, which is SJ’s number. I’m definitely not going to touch that,” Gurley said. “I respect him. I wouldn’t do that.”
Gurley and the Rams will have their second rookie session on Saturday.
May 8, 2015 at 9:20 pm #24324znModerator“There really aren’t too many numbers available. There’s 39, which is SJ’s number. I’m definitely not going to touch that,” Gurley said. “I respect him. I wouldn’t do that.”
Actually if SJ takes an interest, TG could learn a lot from him.
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May 8, 2015 at 11:12 pm #24326InvaderRamModeratoryeah it’d be cool if jackson took on a mentor role like stephen davis did for him.
May 9, 2015 at 5:33 pm #24352znModeratorHoward Balzer @HBalzer721
Some inside building at Rams Park have described the drafted offensive linemen as “refrigerators with legs.”
Noting that Jaguars DE Dante Fowler Jr. was injured in 11-on-11, full-speed pass-rush drill, Jeff Fisher said, ..”Our philosophy is not to put them in that position for a couple weeks.”
Sixth-round WR Bud Sasser still not practicing because of an issue with his physical. Rams say going through some additional testing.
Sasser claims he doesn’t know what is the issue: “I have no idea. I’m not sure what’s wrong.”
Rams UDFA DT Louis Trinca-Pasaty received $25,000 guaranteed: $15,000 bonus and $10,000 guaranteed salary.
Rams coach Jeff Fisher said team was “involved” in talks with OL La’el Collins and said they were told “we were in the final four.”
Fisher said they “still had some unanswered questions,” but probably would have been more involved had they not had success in the draft.
May 9, 2015 at 5:33 pm #24353znModeratorRams take different approach to rookie ‘orientation’
By Nick WagonerEARTH CITY, Mo. — Somewhere along the way, the words “rookie minicamp” when paired together became verboten around the St. Louis Rams.
That’s why there’s no evidence of what took place at Rams Park in the past two days being called anything other than Jeff Fisher’s preferred term.
“We kind of fell into this,” Fisher said. “Nowhere in the building are you going to see anything that says ‘rookie minicamp.’ We call it orientation. We have talked to them about this. It’s not their fault. They’re not in the same condition that the vets are. The vets, many of them were in before the start of the offseason program, they got a three-week head start and so our job is to get them caught up. That’s what we’re doing.”
Fisher and the Rams welcomed their nine drafted players, 15 undrafted rookies and a pair of tryout prospects to St. Louis on Thursday and held what amounted to glorified conditioning sessions on Friday and Saturday. In total, they didn’t spend more than about two-and-a-half hours on the field, but that doesn’t mean there wasn’t work getting done.
From Fisher’s perspective, the idea is to slowly introduce the rookies to the mix before throwing them in with the veterans. He instructed the rookies to practice no faster than about three-quarter speed during the on-field work. Only running back Todd Gurley (knee) and receiver Bud Sasser (pending physical tests) did not participate.
Even with these two days over, Fisher won’t let the rookies join the veterans in the weight room yet. In fact, the rookies won’t have much interaction with the veterans until Thursday, when they do some skill development.
“That’s kind of the way we approach it,” Fisher said. “We had two good days on the field and we don’t have a single soft tissue issue with anybody. So we have got to get them caught up. We are going to use the next week or two to get them caught up.”
Getting caught up includes a little bit of everything, Fisher said. That means getting the rookies ready in the weight room, in player development, on the football side, even diet.
When the rookies do join the veterans on Thursday of next week, they’ll still have be in separate offensive and defensive groups doing drill work on the field. By league rule, they can’t come together as an entire team on the field until the beginning of June.
And the rookie class is now with the team until the end of organized team activities, with the draft class able to stick around until the rookie symposium on June 22.
May 9, 2015 at 9:14 pm #24359znModeratorRookie OL stand out for Rams
Nate Latsch
http://stl.scout.com/story/1545248-rookie-ol-stand-out-for-rams?s=124
ST. LOUIS — It wasn’t hard to notice the Rams’ five new offensive linemen during their rookie orientation program on Friday and Saturday.
“It’s hard not to look at the four offensive linemen we drafted and say, ‘Wow,’” Rams coach Jeff Fisher said Saturday when asked if any of the rookie caught his eye. “Somebody said yesterday they look like refrigerators with legs. It’s a good-looking group and they’re moving around pretty good.”
Seeking to renovate the offensive line this offseason, Fisher and general manager Les Snead invested four draft picks on the offensive front after signing tackle-guard Garrett Reynolds to a free-agent deal and re-signing reserve center Tim Barnes.
They used a second-round pick on Wisconsin right tackle Rob Havenstein, a third-round pick on Louisville’s Jamon Brown, a fourth-rounder on Andrew Donnal from Iowa and a sixth-round pick on guard Cody Wichmann from Fresno State.
Those four were joined at rookie orientation by undrafted free agent Darrell Williams, a left tackle from South Florida.
Williams worked at left tackle over the two days of on-field work, with Donnal at left guard, Wichmann at center, Brown at right guard and Havenstein at his customary right tackle spot.
The five rookies represented a larger group than Fisher’s Rams have had in the past few seasons, but they were able to get plenty of reps on the field.
“It’s great work for them,” Fisher said. “The Iowa offensive system, the Wisconsin offensive system are probably more closer to what we do. Fresno State, Cody (Wichmann) is well-coached. We’re really excited about Jamon (Brown) because he’s got tremendous athletic ability. I don’t think it’s going to be a long time for the four of them to catch on to the techniques and things and what not.”
With only two starters returning from last season in left tackle Greg Robinson and veteran guard Rodger Saffold, it’s possible the Rams could start two of the rookie linemen this season if the team doesn’t re-sign starting right tackle Joe Barksdale.
Havenstein, a 6-foot-7, 321-pounder, could open the season as the team’s right tackle, though Saffold could move back to that spot and Reynolds has experience after starting four games at that position for the Detroit Lions last year.
Brown, a 6-4, 323-pounder, could start at one of the guard spots opposite Saffold after playing tackle at Louisville. Donnal and Wichmann will also go into training camp competing for one of those guard spots, along with veterans like Brandon Washington.
The Rams have made no secret of the fact that they want to be a physical team and run the football. The upheaval along the front line — where Jake Long and Scott Wells were released and Barksdale and Davin Joseph remain unsigned free agents — speaks to the changes needed to make that a reality.
Now the issue is how quickly players like Havenstein and Brown can become contributors and earn starting spots. They certainly look the part and have plenty of experience from their college careers. This weekend’s rookie orientation was just the beginning.
May 9, 2015 at 9:16 pm #24360znModeratorThose four were joined at rookie orientation by undrafted free agent Darrell Williams, a left tackle from South Florida.
Williams worked at left tackle over the two days of on-field work, with Donnal at left guard, Wichmann at center, Brown at right guard and Havenstein at his customary right tackle spot.
May 10, 2015 at 12:07 am #24365znModeratorRams Getting Rookies up to Speed
By Myles Simmons
The Rams 2015 rookie class took the field for the first time on Friday and Saturday, with 26 drafted, undrafted, and tryout players. In a way, it’s like the first few days of school in that the young players are having initial meetings with their coaches and fellow rookie teammates. And with the way head coach Jeff Fisher likes to run things, it’s a time to get the young players caught up to the veterans in the overall offseason program.
“Nowhere in the building are you going to see anything that says, ‘rookie minicamp.’ We call it orientation,” Fisher said. “We’ve talked to [the rookies] about this — it’s not their fault. They are not in the same condition that the vets are because the vets, many of them were in before the start of the offseason program.”
Fisher added that the Rams will not have the rookies lift with the veterans for a while, and will not have them on the field together until Thursday. The head coach said the team stressed the importance of not going faster than three-quarter speed to reduce the risk of injury.
“We’re combining walk-thrus and meetings,” Fisher said of the rookie program. “We’ve got to get the fitness part going, so it’s the weight room, it’s player development, it’s football — it’s just everything. It’s diet, it’s flexibility. We find out where they are so we can start off appropriately next week.”
One of the four offensive linemen the Rams selected in the draft, Andrew Donnal said that the way the club runs orientation is beneficial to the players’ development.
“It’s a lot of stuff, but the nice part is that this is all we do right now,” he said. “It’s all football. We’re not in college anymore so we don’t have school. We don’t have any other distractions. It’s all football all the time, so we have plenty of time to get the material down.”
Focusing solely on football is helpful in that there is a lot the rookies must do to settle in. There’s the obvious “speed of the game,” which rookies cite as a significant change from college to the pros year after year. The Rams 2015 rookie class is no different.
“Anytime you jump up a level, the speed of the game is going to be faster — something to adjust to, get used to,” offensive lineman Rob Havenstein said. “Obviously, I haven’t done it to this point. So I’m looking forward to learning from that and just trying to be a better football player.”
“We’re just dealing with fresh-out-of-college guys, and it still seems faster because these are all top-notch players,” offensive lineman Cody Wichmann said. “I can only imagine when the big dogs come in here.”
But there is more to it than that. Players are not only getting used to a new environment and new system, but also a different timeframe when it comes to understanding technique.
“They expect you to pick up on things quicker than when you were in college,” offensive lineman Jamon Brown said. “In college, you slow it down, they kind of walk you through a lot more things. But out here, they show you it, and they expect you to be able to soak it in and apply it to the drills.”
There’s also the terminology and technique aspect of adjusting, and some players have more of an advantage. Fisher cited Donnal and Havenstein as two examples because the Iowa and Wisconsin offensive systems are similar to what St. Louis employs. Quarterback Sean Mannion is in a like position, given his experience at Oregon State.
“I know just learning the offense, it wasn’t my first time with certain protections, it wasn’t my first time with certain patterns,” he said of his first couple of days at Rams Park. “But the detail that goes into every little aspect of each play is just so much higher. There’s always tons and tons of things to be sharp on, to learn about, so that way the offense can run at a high level.”
While it’s much too early in the process to come away with any conclusions, Fisher said the O-line has caught his eye. In addition to the four draft picks — Havenstein, Brown, Donnal, and Cody Wichmann — the Rams brought in Darrell Williams as an undrafted free agent.
“It’s hard not to look at the four offensive linemen we drafted and say, ‘Wow,’” Fisher said. “Somebody said yesterday they look like refrigerators with legs. It’s a good looking group and they’re moving around pretty good.”
Now that they’re in St. Louis, Fisher said the Rams rookies will be in town through the duration of the offseason program.
“The draft choices are here through the symposium, which is June 22,” Fisher said. “They’re here. We’ve got them.”
May 10, 2015 at 10:46 am #24378znModerator
Rams rookies get up to speed at “orientation”By Jim Thomas
As Jeff Fisher sees it, it was orientation — not minicamp — for 26 Rams rookies over the weekend.
“Nowhere in the building are you going to see anything that says ‘rookie minicamp,’” Fisher said Saturday. “We call it orientation.”
Even with the NFL Scouting Combine and pro days and private workouts leading up to the draft, Fisher said the rookies just aren’t in the same shape when they report as are Rams veterans.
“So our job is to get (the rookies) caught up,” he said. “That’s what we’re doing. We had a long lecture with them (Friday) not to go faster than three-quarter speed. That’s kind of the way we approach it. We’ve had two good days on the field, and I don’t have a single soft-tissue issue with anybody.”
In part because of the limited numbers, Rams rookies were on the practice field for only about an hour and 15 minutes on Friday, and the same on Saturday.
Even though the minicamp — uh, orientation — ended Saturday, the rookies are here until late June.
They will start getting mixed in with the veterans on Thursday, both in the weight room and on the field for what’s called “skill development.”
Per league rules, skill development means the players can take part in football drills with coaches present, but there can be no 11-on-11 or seven-on-seven drills. In other words, no offense vs. defense.
“We’re gonna use the next week or two to get (the rookies) completely caught up,” Fisher said.
Then come the full-speed spring practices known as OTAs starting the first week of June.
With such little practice time over the weekend, the rookies spent hours inside, be it in meeting rooms or doing walk-throughs.
“We’ve got to get the fitness part going. So it’s the weight room, it’s player development, it’s football, it’s diet, it’s flexibility,” Fisher said. “It’s everything. We find out where they are, so we can start appropriately next week.”
Obviously, sometimes injuries can’t be prevented. But there have been telling examples in the last few days that coming out full speed right away with the rookies isn’t the best way to go.
On Friday, Jaguars linebacker/defensive end Dante Fowler suffered a season-ending knee injury — a torn ACL — less than an hour into the team’s first minicamp practice.
“It’s unfortunate,” Fisher said. “I heard he was in an 11-on-11 drill, full-speed pass rush, and he had a problem. Our philosophy is not to put them in that position for a couple of weeks until we know where they’re at.”
Then on Saturday, Denver rookie tight end Jeff Heuerman suffered a knee injury that is expected to keep him out all season.
After being indoors for Friday’s practice, the Rams were able to work outside Saturday under light rain at their Earth City complex.
Once again, No. 10 overall draft pick Todd Gurley did not practice and will not do so for some time as he continues his rehabilitation work from last season’s knee surgery while in college, at Georgia.
Gurley hung out with the other running backs and watched the proceedings wearing a baseball-style cap. His left knee was wrapped.
It’s all mental reps, listening, and learning for Gurley at this point. In all likelihood, he won’t be able to practice until August. But these initial days at Rams Park aren’t wasted time.
“He’s in the meetings,” Fisher said. “He’s learning the offense. He’s killing the rehab. He’s paying attention in the walk-throughs. He’s meeting his teammates. … He’ll definitely know what to do when he’s able to go out there.”
Meanwhile, former Missouri wide receiver Bud Sasser also was a non-participant for the second day in a row, although the sixth-round draft pick’s circumstances are murkier.
“We’re still doing some things, some physical tests, stuff like that,” Fisher said. “We should have it all cleared up here in the next day or so.”
Neither Fisher nor Sasser would provide any additional details.
On the field, it was hard to miss the five offensive linemen — four of whom were drafted players.
“Somebody said they look like refrigerators with legs,” Fisher said.
That was meant as a compliment.
“So it’s a good-looking group and they’re moving around pretty good,” Fisher said.
Second-round pick Rob Havenstein, of Wisconsin, spent Friday and Saturday working at right tackle. Third-round pick Jamon Brown (Louisville) worked at right guard, with fourth-rounder Andrew Donnel (Iowa) at left guard.
With rookie free-agent Darrell Williams (South Florida) at left tackle, that left sixth-rounder Cody Wichmann (Fresno State) no choice but to line up at center when the coaches ran drills using an entire offensive line.
It’s a position Wichmann said he’s never played before, although he said he did work snapping during his pre-draft training. But the Rams didn’t have Wichmann snapping over the weekend; he just lined up there. Third-round quarterback Sean Mannion (Oregon State) started all plays holding the football instead of taking a snap.
Interestingly, Fisher said the Rams were involved in trying to sign Louisiana State tackle/guard La’el Collins, who was not drafted after Baton Rouge, La., police wanted to question him following the murder of a former girlfriend. Collins is not considered a suspect, and was subsequently signed by Dallas as a rookie free agent.
“We still had some unanswered questions at the time at which he made his decision, but we were involved,” Fisher said. “We were told by (Collins’ agents) that we were in the final four, which isn’t necessarily a consolation. But we were involved, yes.”
And for the umpteenth time since the start of the free agency period, Fisher said the Rams continue to have conversations with still-unsigned offensive lineman Joe Barksdale.
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