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January 5, 2016 at 8:49 pm #36669znModerator
Ian Rapoport @RapSheet
The #Rams have put in a request to interview #Browns OC John DeFilippo, source said. His work with a variety of QBs was noted.—-
by Dread Pirate Roberts & jrry32
Browns fans comment on Defilippo
As a Browns fan Defelippo was seriously our only bright spot. He didn’t discover Gary Barnidge or Travis Benjamin, but he did almost get those guys into the pro bowl. Read those two names again. Those were the Browns offensive superstars folks. The fact that they didn’t finish dead last in offense or points scored should automatically qualify Defilippo for some sort of lifetime achievement award. He even got Billy to somewhat resemble an NFL qb. The guy’s legit. Browns are dumb (today’s bombshell) to let him go.
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The Browns should hire DeFillippo to be their HC instead of the dopes they are interviewing. This guy is a magician. He did more with less than any coach in the NFL.
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Flip is the only member of the Browns staff that I didn’t want to see go. For once we had an offense that wasn’t crazy predictable on rushing/passing downs and he wasn’t afraid to take a shot downfield.
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Think about what he had to work with before you dismiss him. He took guys like Gary Barnidge and Travis Benjamin, guys who haven’t produced at all in the league, and helped them have really good years. He also revived Josh McCown. It’s not like the Cleveland Browns were loaded with offensive talent. He was given a bunch of castoffs and made the best of it. Most coordinators can do well when they are loaded with offensive talent, but he made the most out of a talent depleted roster.
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I love him. His schemes to get mediocre WRs open is outstanding. Although our running game was crap in the beginning, it was much improved by the end of the ear. Don’t know if it’s just complicated to get and that’s why it improved or what.
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I personally would have demoted Pettine and made him interim HC.
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I hope we don’t lose him – liked his play calling this year.
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best coach on our staff and helped make McCown and Manziel look like legit QBs…too bad one got hurt and the other is a drunk..
January 6, 2016 at 12:12 am #36673znModerator==
by Merlin
re: Flip… here’s a nice quote on him that speaks volumes to me because it is the heart of being a great coordinator at the NFL level:
“The one thing I learned about him very quickly when I hired him is just it’s the combination of passion and football intelligence,” coach Mike Pettine said. “When a play breaks down, he knows immediately why it happened. He’s very good at troubleshooting. He’s very good at understanding defenses and what they’re trying to take away and how to take advantage of it and how we can get our guys in the right position to make plays.”
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by jrry32
The top proven OCs aren’t going to be on the market. This is exactly who the Rams should be targeting. Took lemons and made lemonade this year in Cleveland. The Browns were a top 15 passing attack with talent that looked awfully similar to ours when McCown went down.
DeFilippo did an amazing job with their passing attack. The Browns weakness this year was the rushing attack. Which isn’t an issue for us.
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It’s early, but John DeFilippo doesn’t look like a rookie offensive coordinator for Cleveland Browns
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/10/its_early_but_john_defilippo_d.html
BEREA, Ohio – John DeFilippo didn’t get married until age 36.
Most football coaches are wed to their work, but few seem as willing to admit it as the new Browns offensive coordinator.
“I’m one of those guys who puts my job first,” DeFilippo told NEOMG in the summer. “A lot of people will say that’s wrong, but I knew what I wanted to do and I knew how to get there and I had to do it the right way.”
Time spent on 10 college campuses and inside six pro organizations has prepared the 37-year-old for the task of coordinating the NFL’s Isle of Misfit Toys. To the surprise of many outside the walls of Berea, DeFilippo hasn’t coached like a first-time pro playcaller.
The Browns (2-3) head into Sunday’s game against the Broncos ranked eighth in total offense and 13thin scoring. Quarterback Josh McCown and his unheralded supporting cast deserve much credit for executing the game plan, particularly over the past three weeks.
But DeFilippo, with the help of coach Mike Pettine, has quietly put the offense in good position thanks to his knowledge, confidence and willingness to adapt to circumstances. Whether it’s condensing the playbook for Johnny Manziel or tailoring a plan to an opponent, the coordinator has been as nimble and unflappable as a high-wire walker in the face of lakefront gusts.
“He sees the game, and when a play breaks down, he knows immediately why it happened,” Pettine said. “He is very good at troubleshooting and very good at understanding defenses and what they are trying to take away and how to take advantage of it and how we can get our guys in the right position to make plays.”
DeFilippo’s attack is not without shortcomings. The Browns aren’t efficient in the red zone. They don’t run the ball with any consistency. Their playmakers, save for Gary Barnidge, lack size and the recent trend of asking McCown to throw 45 to 50 times per game doesn’t seem sustainable.
But who in July thought the offense could excel behind the talents of McCown, Barnidge, Travis Benjamin and rookie Duke Johnson? John DeFilippo, that’s who.
He was McCown’s biggest backer in the organization from their days together in Oakland when so many criticized the free-agent signing. DeFilippo took one look at Benjamin running routes in the spring and said the returner needed to be more involved in the passing game. He’s made exceptional use of Barnidge’s soft hands (feet and thighs) and told anyone who would listen Johnson would become a match-up nightmare for opponents out of the backfield.
The Browns rank sixth in passing, averaging 289 yards per game, on the strength of a veteran quarterback who can make use of the entire playbook and a varied offense that employs multiple formations and lots of motion. They have scored on 16 of their last 26 possessions dating to halftime of the Raiders’ game.
“Like I said last week, I feel him getting better every week and doing a good job of adapting really to what the game needs as far as where we’re at offensively,” McCown said. “(He) does a good job of staying calm and working through the call sheet and trusting his preparation. That’s been huge for us, obviously.”
DeFilippo understood the skepticism surrounding his hiring. The Browns went from veterans Norv Turner and Kyle Shanahan to a coordinator who had only called plays for two seasons at San Jose State.
If not for Ray Farmer’s text messages and the front-office meddling, DeFilippo wouldn’t have the opportunity. But the NFL is all about taking advantages of chances. So far, so good for the assistant Pettine calls “a hot-blooded Italian,” one who likes his red wine and Hoyo De Monterrey cigars.
The Browns haven’t scored fewer than 20 points since the opener against the Jets when McCown was lost on the first series to concussion. He staunchly backed Pettine’s decision to roll with McCown even after Manziel beat the Titans with a pair of TD passes to Benjamin.
Can the offensive production continue? That’s unclear. Lets not forget the Browns also enjoyed a quick start last season before another bridge quarterback, Brian Hoyer, began to play down to his level.
The league’s top defense comes to town Sunday and formidable Rams and Cardinals units await the Browns over the next three weeks.
DeFilippo, however, has the short and intermediate passing game humming. The swing passes to the versatile Johnson and Isaiah Crowell supplement a rushing attack averaging just 88.4 yards.
Instead of grinding it out against the Ravens, a strategy that would have played into Baltimore’s favor, McCown threw the ball 51 times. The fact the Browns fell behind aided in the decision to stay aggressive through air. By game’s end, the Ravens’ defense was exhausted and the Browns found some success running the ball.
McCown finished with a franchise-record 457 yards passing.
“I know Josh is going to get heaped with praise, and it is well deserved, but I just think we functioned extremely well as a unit,” Pettine said.
That includes the man calling the plays.
DeFilippo has much to learn as he grows into the job. He won’t lack for effort, however. He has a strong work ethic and an understanding wife to thank for that
January 6, 2016 at 6:40 am #36679WinnbradParticipantDoes it really matter who the OC is, when we don’t have a QB? I mean, there’s only so much they can do with this offense.
January 6, 2016 at 7:56 am #36683AgamemnonParticipantJanuary 6, 2016 at 7:56 am #36684wvParticipantDoes it really matter who the OC is, when we don’t have a QB? I mean, there’s only so much they can do with this offense.
Is that crafty old QB McCown a free agent?
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vJanuary 6, 2016 at 11:00 am #36698znModeratorFwiw, DeFilippo runs a WCO.
January 6, 2016 at 12:48 pm #36699nittany ramModeratorFwiw, DeFilippo runs a WCO.
There was a time when that would have bugged me. Never liked that horizontal passing game featuring quick outs and shallow crossing patterns. It’s the offense that brought the ‘pick play’ to football, which by all rights should be OPI. I’ve always been a fan of the Coryell offense even before the GSOT days.
But beggars can’t be choosers. I stopped caring how the Rams win a long time ago. I just want an offense that works and if Flip is their best hope for making that happen then I say hire him.
January 6, 2016 at 4:41 pm #36708wvParticipantFwiw, DeFilippo runs a WCO.
There was a time when that would have bugged me. Never liked that horizontal passing game featuring quick outs and shallow crossing patterns. It’s the offense that brought the ‘pick play’ to football, which by all rights should be OPI. I’ve always been a fan of the Coryell offense even before the GSOT days.
But beggars can’t be choosers. I stopped caring how the Rams win a long time ago. I just want an offense that works and if Flip is their best hope for making that happen then I say hire him.
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I thot the ‘were‘ running a
Worst Coast Offense.I’ll be here all week.
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vJanuary 6, 2016 at 5:30 pm #36717DakParticipantI think they’re running a Weak Coffee Offense. Could be wrong … I could use some stronger coffee today.
January 6, 2016 at 5:56 pm #36719AgamemnonParticipantBrowns OC John DeFilippo to interview for Rams job Monday per @MaryKayCabot.
— Jim Thomas (@jthom1) January 6, 2016
January 6, 2016 at 7:35 pm #36728znModeratorBrowns OC candidate John DeFilippo compared to Adam Gase by Broncos QB coach
January 29, 2014
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/01/browns_oc_candidate_john_defil.html
NEW YORK — Broncos quarterbacks coach Greg Knapp, who oversaw Browns offensive coordinator candidate John DeFilippo for three years in Oakland, compared the young Raiders quarterbacks coach to another one of his associates the Browns sought to hire this year: Broncos offensive coordinator Adam Gase.
“Don’t let his age (35) fool you,” Knapp told cleveland.com at the Super Bowl media availability Wednesday. “He’s like Adam Gase. He’s got great knowledge and a great future ahead of him.”
Former Redskins offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan, who has six years’ experience as a coordinator, met with the Browns on Wednesday, and DeFilippo, who’s never been a coordinator in the NFL, will interview with them Thursday.
When Knapp was Raiders offensive coordinator in 2007-08, DeFilippo had the unenviable task of coaching troubled No. 1 overall pick JaMarcus Russell, who flopped in the pros. It was later learned that Russell had tested positive for codeine even before the Raiders made him the top pick and gave him a $68 million contract, including $31.5 million guaranteed.
Russell went 0-1 as a rookie and 5-10 in 2008, but Knapp saw tremendous potential in DeFilippo — a Youngstown native — right from the start.
“When I was coordinator in Oakland, I said to him, ‘You’re the quarterback coach, and it’s your job to coach me out of the room,’ ” recalled Knapp. “He did that in a half a year’s time — and that was seven years ago, when he was really young.”
After the 2008 season, DeFilippo left Oakland to take over as quarterbacks coach of San Jose State, and earned the added duties of offensive coordinator in 2010. In his first year as coordinator, the Spartans jumped 32 places nationally in total offense from the previous year.
When Knapp returned to Oakland as coordinator in 2012, he brought DeFilippo back with him. That year, he coached Carson Palmer for most of the season and then former Buckeye Terrelle Pryor for the final game after Palmer was lost to a rib injury. In 2013, Pryor started nine games and won three after expected starter Matt Flynn flopped.
“He did a great job last year developing Terrelle Pryor during the offseason and he spent a lot of extra time talking to him about mechanics, on the field and in the classroom with him,” said Knapp. “John has that work ethic that you want as a coach in the NFL, and certainly as a play caller.”
DeFilippo was also forced to start undrafted rookie Matt McGloin for seven games last season after a concussion rendered Pryor ineffective. McGloin went 1-5, but largely because of the Raiders’ below-average defense, which finished 28th against the pass. McGloin threw for eight touchdowns, eight interceptions and a 76.1 rating.
“The quarterbacks really like John,” said Knapp. “He’s very personable, and it’s important to him that he has a relationship with the players, not just as a coach but a person-to-person relationship.”
Knapp cited DeFilippo’s football pedigree as his primary asset. His father, Gene DeFilippo was a former graduate assistant at the University of Tennessee, then coached offense at Youngstown State and Vanderbilt. The elder DeFilippo went on to become athletic director at Boston College, where he spent 15 years before retiring in 2012.
“John’s been around football all of his life,” said Knapp. “He’s the son of a coach/AD, and he’s a bright, young coach who has great knowledge of the game.”
DeFilippo also played quarterback at James Madison University and interviewed for their head coaching vacancy this offseason.
On the college level, DeFilippo coached quarterbacks at Fordham in 2000. He then went on to Notre Dame as a graduate assistant under Bob Davie in 2001 and Ty Willingham in 2002. He helped lead the Irish to an 8-0 start in 2002, with wins over No. 7 Michigan and No. 11 Florida State, and a Gator Bowl berth.
DeFilippo’s NFL coaching career began with the New York Giants in 2005, when he served as offensive quality-control coach on Tom Coughlin’s staff for two years. He helped the Giants to two postseason appearances, and New York posted a 19-13 regular-season record during his time there.
In 2009, as assistant quarterbacks coach for the Jets, he helped tutor rookie QB Mark Sanchez, who led the Jets to the AFC Championship in his first season as a pro. Browns coach Mike Pettine was Jets defensive coordinator at the time.
“John’s worked under a lot of good coaches, including Tom Coughlin,” said Knapp. “He’s been on enough offensive staffs and gameplanned with enough experienced coordinators that he has a good feel what it takes to help develop a gameplan and to execute it.”
Knapp said he has no doubt that DeFilippo is ready to call plays at the pro level.
“I have the utmost confidence in him,” he said. “He’d take charge in the classroom, and you’d see it on the field as well.”
January 6, 2016 at 7:46 pm #36730wvParticipantI think they’re running a Weak Coffee Offense. Could be wrong … I could use some stronger coffee today.
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Wobbly Cake Offense ?
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vJanuary 6, 2016 at 8:15 pm #36734znModeratorJohn DeFilippo’s Flexibility Key to Cleveland Browns Offense
10/12/2015
http://www.scout.com/nfl/browns/story/1598415-john-defilippo-s-flexibility-key-to-browns-o
As we all expected, the Cleveland Browns have the 9th ranked scoring offense in the NFL. Offensive Coordinator John DeFilippo, and his flexibility is key to the team.
You read that correctly, the Cleveland Browns currently had the 9th most points scored in the NFL. (The number is clearly skewed a bit since 6 teams have had a bye week but they have not.)
Prior to the season, the Browns, and their fans, believed the team would win with a great defense and solid run game. The assumption was that the team would only win games that were low scoring. Without a big time wide receiver or tight end (something most fans still are pissed off about), scoring was expected to be tough.
Instead, the Browns have scored 118 points, more than vaunted offenses such as the Philadelphia Eagles, Denver Broncos, Dallas Cowboys and Indianapolis Colts. All 5 of those teams were expected to have great offenses and yet have less points than the Browns while playing the same number of games (5).
While Josh McCown is rightfully getting a lot of credit for the team’s performance yesterday. While many still have high hopes for Johnny Manziel, McCown has cemented himself as the team’s starter.
John DeFilippo, the Browns new offensive coordinator, should be getting the same heaping of praise today. Mike Pettine’s reported first choice last season for the OC position, Kyle Shanahan was the Front Office/Ownership selection, Coach Flip has shown why quickly. While Flip is young, 37 years old, his learning curve has been quick.
The biggest thing we have seen from Flip’s offense is flexibility. While Pettine and GM Ray Farmer built the team to win on the ground, Flip hasn’t just stuck to the run game. Instead, Flip has learned his personnel and the flow of the game to make the proper adjustments needed to compete.
Throwing out the New York Jets game when McCown was hurt after leading a great long drive, the Browns have been competitive in every game. They beat the Tennessee Titans and Baltimore Ravens while losing by a touchdown or less against the Oakland Raiders and San Diego Chargers.
Taking the Jets game out of the equation, the Browns have a positive point differential of +7.
Against the Titans, with Manziel at the helm, Flip only threw the ball 15 times while the rushing offense ran for over 110 yards.
The next game, with McCown back in charge, the team struggled to run. Flip in turn threw the ball 49 times, keeping the Browns in the game.
Against the Chargers, a game that was close most of the day, the run game was better with 100 yards. McCown threw 8 times less than the week prior, completing 32 of 41 passes.
Yesterday, with the running game again struggling, Flip had McCown throw the ball 51 times. The Browns only garnered 83 total yards on the ground, 12 of which was on McCown runs.
Not only has Flip been flexible with the run, pass balance but with who is the focus of the pass game. Yesterday, 9 different players caught passes with Gary Barnidge, Duke Johnson, Travis Benjamin and Andrew Hawkins all catching at least 6 passes. That doesn’t allow defenses to focus their coverage on any one player.
Flip also uses multiple formations and motions to keep defenses from settling in. Three receivers left with none on the other side. Stacking receivers. Putting backs out wide. Not only do defenses not know which player to focus on but they don’t know where those players will be lining up.
While the Browns have struggled in the redzone this season, the Browns continue to score at a high rate. Last year the Browns only scored 299 points. Five games into the season the Browns have scored ~40% of last year’s total. This while dealing with a struggling run game, McCown injury and limited play calling for Manziel.
Coach John DeFilippo deserve a ton of credit for the performance of the Browns offense. His flexibility will be key to sustained success for the team. Now if only we could get Jim O’Neil to make good adjustments.January 6, 2016 at 8:46 pm #36735znModeratorFisher from the press conferences before and after the Browns game, discussing the Cleveland offense, and therefore, by extension, their coordinator:
Fisher – 10/24/15
Based on what they’ve done the last few weeks, it’s quite impressive. . . .They’ve got a great passing game . . . .They’ve got a quarterback that they trust. He’s first in the league in third down passing. Their offense is fourth in the NFL in third down efficiency. You saw what he did to Baltimore and the numbers that he put up there. They can run the football.
Fisher – 10/25/15
Very explosive offense that we’d seen prior to today on tape with their run game and their passing game.
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January 8, 2016 at 10:13 am #36818znModeratorIan Rapoprt @RapSheet
The #49ers met with Chip Kelly yesterday, as @MaioccoCSN said. Today it’s #Browns OC John DeFilippo –more of an informal meeting.January 12, 2016 at 3:16 pm #37037znModeratorTim Kawakami @timkawakami
Right now, there’s a lot of focus in coaching circles on John DeFilippo. It’s assumed the 49ers want him as their OC. What HC fits w/that?January 13, 2016 at 1:19 am #37087HerzogParticipant🙁
January 15, 2016 at 1:21 am #37340znModeratorhttp://www.rotoworld.com/teams/nfl/cle/cleveland-browns
Browns OC John DeFilippo is interviewing with the Rams on Tuesday.
According to the Sacramento Bee, DeFilippo could also be in the running for the 49ers’ coordinator position if Tom Coughlin is hired. The Browns are trying to keep DeFilippo in-house as they search for a new coach, but he could be lured away before Mike Pettine’s replacement is identified.January 15, 2016 at 2:10 am #37341InvaderRamModeratoryeah. i don’t think it matters who the coordinator is if they can’t get that qb situation figured out. rgiii anyone???
January 15, 2016 at 3:23 am #37342znModeratorrgiii anyone???
Personally? I can’t stand that idea. Really. Even suggesting it bothers me. The guy lost a locker room. Jeff George, but with more legs than arm.
If it means anything, McCown played well for DeFilippo in Cleveland. That suggests he can get a lot out of guys others couldn’t. But RG3? The very idea has me cross-eyed.
Just a friendly difference of opinion.
But if they do go after RG3, be prepared to watch me meltdown worse than Foles did.
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January 15, 2016 at 8:38 am #37353InvaderRamModeratorrgiii anyone???
Personally? I can’t stand that idea. Really. Even suggesting it bothers me. The guy lost a locker room. Jeff George, but with more legs than arm.
If it means anything, McCown played well for DeFilippo in Cleveland. That suggests he can get a lot out of guys others couldn’t. But RG3? The very idea has me cross-eyed.
Just a friendly difference of opinion.
But if they do go after RG3, be prepared to watch me meltdown worse than Foles did.
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that’s a good point.
January 16, 2016 at 4:49 pm #37447znModeratorBrowns OC John DeFilippo told he won’t be back; he may join Rams
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/01/browns_oc_john_defilippo_told.html
CLEVELAND, Ohio — Browns offensive coordinator John DeFilippo was told by the club Saturday morning that he won’t be back, a league source told cleveland.com.
DeFilippo has two years left on his contract, and the Browns owe him the full amount unless he takes another job before it expires. He has a chance to join the Rams as passing game coordinator and interviewed for the 49ers head coaching vacancy that went to Chip Kelly.
It became apparent that DeFilippo wouldn’t be needed when head coach Hue Jackson told Sirius XM NFL on Friday that he probably won’t hire an offensive coordinator and plans to call his own plays. ESPN’s Adam Caplan first reported that DeFilippo was out.
Jackson interviewed former Colts offensive coordinator Pep Hamilton Friday for a prominent role on the offense, possibly assistant head coach or passing game coordinator.
DeFilippo, who was waiting to hear Jackson’s plans before making a decision, is still in the running for the Rams job, as the team prepares to move to Los Angeles for the 2016 season. He’s drawn interest from other teams as well.
DeFilippo was one of four Browns assistants were told the day after Mike Pettine was fired that they were welcome to stay if the new coach wanted them. The others were Kevin O’Connell, who has also been told he won’t be back, secondary coach Jeff Hafley and assistant secondary coach Aaron Glenn, who joined the Saints.
In 2015, DeFilippo’s first year as a coordinator, the Browns threw for 4,155 yards, fourth-most in franchise history. It was also the fourth time in team history the club threw for 4,000 yards and rushed for 1,500 yards in the same season.
The 2.0 interception percentage was second-best in franchise annals and the quarterbacks’ 12 interceptions were third-fewest in a 16-game season.
January 16, 2016 at 5:45 pm #37450wvParticipantI am in favor of having a passing
co-ordinator named DeFilippoI am not in favor of having RG3
as a passer. I’d rather go with
Mannion. Ag likes Mannion — thats
good enough for me.w
vJanuary 16, 2016 at 6:33 pm #37455InvaderRamModeratoris it good enough for hollywood though?
haha!
January 16, 2016 at 7:00 pm #37458wvParticipantis it good enough for hollywood though?
haha!
I wonder if more ram players will get into trouble
now, living out in Los Angeleez.Its interesting to me that Fisher wants a
passing co-ordinator. Does that mean
that he doesn’t think Boras is up to the task
of making the passing game go?
What exactly does it mean?
Is he just trying to give Boras some help?w
vJanuary 16, 2016 at 7:11 pm #37460znModeratorIts interesting to me that Fisher wants a
passing co-ordinator. Does that mean
that he doesn’t think Boras is up to the task
of making the passing game go?
What exactly does it mean?
Is he just trying to give Boras some help?My opinion?
It means that he wants DF to learn the Rams system instead of coming onboard and teaching everyone, coaches and players, the WCO he was used to running. There are of course a lot of advantages to doing it like that.
Coordinators regularly rely on someone else to work up the running game. For example, Boras did that with Cigz, and if memory serves Hanifan did that with Martz. Near as I can tell, this version would just reverse the usual hierarchy. It basically makes DF the coordinator, but they (sounds like) would do it by having him become part of the system they already have in place.
January 16, 2016 at 7:12 pm #37461nittany ramModeratoris it good enough for hollywood though?
haha!
I wonder if more ram players will get into trouble
now, living out in Los Angeleez.Its interesting to me that Fisher wants a
passing co-ordinator. Does that mean
that he doesn’t think Boras is up to the task
of making the passing game go?
What exactly does it mean?
Is he just trying to give Boras some help?w
vWell, Fisher saw how bad the Rams passing offense was. He probably figures they need all the help they can get especially with an inexperienced OC like Boras. I wonder if the passing coordinator would work within the scheme of the existing offense or would he install his own scheme and terminology?
January 16, 2016 at 7:14 pm #37462znModeratorI wonder if the passing coordinator would work within the scheme of the existing offense or would he install his own scheme and terminology?
We posted similar thoughts at the same time. My guess was that doing it the way they want to do it would mean DF would learn the Rams system instead of having everyone learn DF’s system (which is a WCO btw).
January 16, 2016 at 7:45 pm #37466InvaderRamModeratoris it good enough for hollywood though?
haha!
I wonder if more ram players will get into trouble
now, living out in Los Angeleez.Its interesting to me that Fisher wants a
passing co-ordinator. Does that mean
that he doesn’t think Boras is up to the task
of making the passing game go?
What exactly does it mean?
Is he just trying to give Boras some help?w
vprobably just trying to give boras some help.
as far as getting into trouble. i don’t know that they’ll be getting into more trouble as there will be more distractions. like release parties. commercial and acting opportunities. they’re gonna have to learn to prioritize.
January 17, 2016 at 5:58 pm #37568znModeratorBlue and Gold
Outgoing #Titans OC Jason Michael in line for TE coach or passing game coordinator with #Rams.[/quote]
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