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June 17, 2015 at 3:43 pm #26490znModerator
Rams defense seeking fast start, consistency in 2015
Nick Wagoner
EARTH CITY, Mo. — Heading toward the 2015 season, the St. Louis Rams defense is in the enviable position of retaining the scheme, the coaches and almost all of the players from last year. That’s a good thing for a group that brings with it the type of lofty expectations of a unit some believe will be enough to break the team’s decade-long streak of postseason absences.
While that continuity is a welcome addition in this offseason, especially at defensive coordinator where Gregg Williams becomes the first to hold the position two consecutive years since Jeff Fisher arrived as head coach in 2012, there are a couple of areas where the Rams are hoping to get different results than a year ago. Namely, getting off to a fast start and finding more consistency from week to week.
To a man, Rams defenders are confident that their group can be the type to lead a postseason return, but they know that it can’t happen if they don’t perform to their capabilities every Sunday.
“I think right now we can be that unit,” linebacker James Laurinaitis said. “Now, do we continue to evolve to become that dominant unit? We’ve shown flashes, but how do we do it more consistently? So until we do it for a consistent season, I’m not going to make any predictions or guarantees or any of that. We have the talent as players, it’s just when do we put it all together?”
For starters, the Rams must figure out a way to hit the ground running. Last year, there was a long feeling-out period that took place between Williams and his new charges. Williams took some time to understand how best to deploy his talent, and his talent took some time to learn how to operate under Williams. The results were underwhelming at best.
Through the first eight games of 2014, the Rams ranked 23rd in sacks, 27th in points allowed per game and 29th in run defense. Their vaunted defensive line, a unit some thought could set a league record for sacks actually set a record for sack futility, with just one in the first five games.
Things finally began to click over the final eight games, as the Rams were tied for fourth in sacks with 26, fifth in average points allowed at 16.8 and fourth in run defense at 84.4 yards per game allowed.
With those numbers in mind, Williams has put an emphasis on hitting the ground running.
“It’s just about starting fast,” safety Rodney McLeod said. “Gregg has been preaching that since we got back. It’s always the first thing that we see every time we open up a meeting. I think we take that approach and start fast out here in practice and it’s going to translate over into these first four to five games. We’ve got a tough little schedule but if we start fast, come out the gates running and winning, the sky is the limit for this team.”
Even if the Rams do find a way to start fast, to truly become the dominant group they believe they can be, they’re going to have to become more consistent. For every shutout they’ve pitched against the likes of Oakland and Washington, they’ve had a bad habit of giving it right back with efforts like the 514 yards allowed in a loss against the New York Giants.
The up-and-down performances have yielded totals right in the middle of the league since Fisher arrived. Under Fisher, the Rams rank 14th in the NFL in yards allowed (346.4), 17th in yards per play (5.43), 15th in run defense (110.23) and 19th in pass defense (236.19).
“I felt like last year we were capable of doing it but we just weren’t consistent enough,” defensive end Chris Long said. “I think with some of the additions we’ve made and with some continuity here and there, there’s no reason why we can’t – if the offense isn’t doing what we expect them to do every week which is be dominant because I think we are capable of doing that on the offensive side of the ball – but if they have an off day we can carry the load.”
To get there, the Rams will have to eliminate the big plays they had a knack for giving up in 2014. More often than not, those came as a result of a miscommunication or blown coverage on the back end. On pass attempts of 30 yards or longer, the Rams gave up just seven completions, which was tied for 12th in the NFL. But those plays often turned into bigger gains that went for touchdowns which is why the Rams gave up 29.71 yards per attempt on such passes, worst in the NFL. Five of those went for touchdowns.
“We always say, ‘Don’t be a repeat offender, don’t make the same mistake over and over,’” Laurinaitis said. “Prove that you can learn from it and move on. … So I think early on we have always started slow. I don’t know why that is but I think this year we have an opportunity to really start camp faster.”
June 17, 2015 at 5:01 pm #26493rflParticipantA relatively good article acknowledging the gap between potential and performance.
I however see little evidence of diagnosis of the causes that led to the problems.
For example this:
Their vaunted defensive line, a unit some thought could set a league record for sacks actually set a record for sack futility, with just one in the first five games.
This sentence OUGHT to be jaw-dropping. It ought to knock people off their feet. And it screams for diagnosis and responsibility.
Haven’t heard it yet from anyone on the Rams.
By virtue of the absurd ...
June 17, 2015 at 5:17 pm #26494HerzogParticipantTo get there, the Rams will have to eliminate the big plays they had a knack for giving up in 2014. More often than not, those came as a result of a miscommunication or blown coverage on the back end. On pass attempts of 30 yards or longer, the Rams gave up just seven completions, which was tied for 12th in the NFL. But those plays often turned into bigger gains that went for touchdowns which is why the Rams gave up 29.71 yards per attempt on such passes, worst in the NFL. Five of those went for touchdowns.
This could be a result of blitzing too much.
June 17, 2015 at 5:26 pm #26495znModeratorTo get there, the Rams will have to eliminate the big plays they had a knack for giving up in 2014. More often than not, those came as a result of a miscommunication or blown coverage on the back end.
This could be a result of blitzing too much.
Yeah sometimes their blitzes bothered me. But I also really do buy the miscommunication theory, along with the misread the play (or screw up the defensive play call) theory, along with the JJ needs to be smacked into discipline theory.
June 17, 2015 at 7:08 pm #26500InvaderRamModeratorA relatively good article acknowledging the gap between potential and performance.
I however see little evidence of diagnosis of the causes that led to the problems.
For example this:
Their vaunted defensive line, a unit some thought could set a league record for sacks actually set a record for sack futility, with just one in the first five games.
This sentence OUGHT to be jaw-dropping. It ought to knock people off their feet. And it screams for diagnosis and responsibility.
Haven’t heard it yet from anyone on the Rams.
personally, i don’t expect them to address it publicly. but as long as they take care of it internally, i’ll be satisfied.
but yeah. i was disturbed by that at the beginning. i think that’s on williams. i really hope fisher reigns him in a little this season.
talk is cheap. defense needs to start showing it on the field.
i still hold out hope that finally having the same coordinator for two seasons in a row will make some sort of difference.
June 19, 2015 at 9:00 pm #26604znModeratorDefense Looks for Continuity to Breed Success
By Myles Simmons
For all the changes the Rams have made on one side of the ball, what has stayed the same on the other is worth its share of headlines.
With Gregg Williams back, St. Louis has the same defensive coordinator in consecutive years for the first time since head coach Jeff Fisher took over in 2012. And given how well Williams’ unit finished 2014, there are a number of reasons for optimism heading into the season.
“The continuity is awesome,” defensive end Chris Long said during OTAs. “It’s good to have him anyway, but when you have him two years in a row, the young guys have the opportunity to grow in his scheme — learn the scheme and master it.
“Now we’re not spending so much time trying to catch up in the summer,” Long continued. “We’re playing ball.”
The defensive coordinator himself said on Thursday that the unit is “lightyears” ahead of where it was a year ago because of the familiarity.
“Just from a terminology [standpoint] — are we speaking the same language? Do we understand what we really want? It took a little bit of time for all of us to get acclimated last year,” Williams said. “And now we’re hoping we can start off faster this year because there’s a knowledge base of information that we all know is the same.”
“It’s good because you can build a relationship with somebody and you know how they play, know what they want from you,” defensive tackle Aaron Donald said of having Williams back. “You get a lot more comfortable, and I think you play a little bit faster.”
Along with that, Williams said players are now familiar enough in the scheme to make checks and audibles based on what they see from the opposition.
“I’ve given them a lot of tools in their toolbox, but now they understand those tools,” Williams said. “They’ll be making calls out on the field that fit their skill set. They’ll stay in the family of the call, but the call has all kinds of adjustments that fit their skill set. They can do that now because we’ve had all this experience together.”
What the defensive coordinator doesn’t want to do is overwhelm the players by giving them too much to learn and digest. Like he has at each coaching stop, Williams said he’s worked to adapt the Rams’ scheme to best fit the current unit’s strengths.
“We’ve taken [away] some of those things, but then we’ve also added things,” Williams said. “Some of the things we’ve added, they’ve brought to us that they’ve done before in the past. We’ve adapted a couple of things there.”
The defensive coordinator said even the assistant coaches know more about what he expects, and have put in the time to ensure it happens. Williams gave plenty of credit to his defensive staff for assembling individualized video cuts for each of the players to study during OTAs. According to Williams, the clips displayed both strengths and weaknesses to have the best impact on growth and development.
“The coaches went the extra mile,” Williams said.
It helps, too, that the Rams have the vast majority of 2014 defensive contributors still with the club for the upcoming season. Long said having that continuity is awesome.
“It’s something I haven’t experienced a ton around here,” Long said. “We just have to take care of the little things every play and that’s something the continuity will help us do.”
Given how well the defense played down the stretch last year, expectations are high for 2015. And with Williams’ experience in coaching top-flight units, he said there’s a possibility that this defense could turn out to be special.
“We would hope so,” Williams said. “This is a talented group, and in order for us to be that way, there can’t be any miscommunication. One play can beat you one way or another.
“But when they are on the same page,” he continued, “if you see these guys talking — yeah, there’s a chance for them to be special.”
Long agreed with his coordinator’s assessment.
“We’ve sensed that it’s been in the making,” Long said. “We’ve had frustration at times that we weren’t consistent enough. I think that’s something we’re going to harp on — if we are consistently our best we can be as good as we want to be.
“The important thing is trying to impose our will on offenses,” Long added. “I think we don’t have any weaknesses right now, so that’s a wonderful thing.”
June 21, 2015 at 8:48 am #26626znModeratorWilliams thinks Rams’ defense has chance to be special
By Jim Thomas
When Rams defensive players returned for the start of the offseason conditioning program in late April, each received an individual tape — an individual report if you will — showing strengths and weaknesses in his play.
“It’s one thing for a coach to talk to all the defense,” coordinator Gregg Williams said. “It’s one thing for a coach to talk just to his position area. But the (position) coaches went the extra mile.”
And produced individual tapes, self-scouting their own players.
“The guys took it to heart and really had a very good spring in the weight room, in the training room and then here on the field,” Williams said. “It’s light years ahead of where we were last year (at this time) because they didn’t know me, I didn’t know them.
“Just from a terminology (standpoint), are we speaking the same language? Do we understand what we really want? It took a little bit of time for all of us to get acclimated last year.”
But now a foundation has been laid. There has been a base of information established for a defense that was among the league’s best over the second half of last season. If nothing else, Williams hopes the familiarity helps the Rams avoid the slow starts defensively that have plagued the team for several seasons under coach Jeff Fisher, predating Williams’ arrival a year ago.
To say that Williams raised the subject of slow starts during the spring would be understatement.
“Why don’t you ask these young gentlemen who play if I have worn them out about that,” Williams said. “Yes, we’ve discussed it.”
Linebacker Jo-Lonn Dunbar, whose association with Williams dates to time they spent together in New Orleans, can vouch for that.
“We’ve stressed that 10-fold,” Dunbar said. “Gregg mentions it every day. That’s the first thing he says to us every day. … ‘Start fast. Start fast. Start fast.’ So what we need to do is start fast as a defense and start fast as a team.”
The pieces certainly are in place for that to take place this year. Returning from last season are seven of the team’s top nine defensive linemen, the top four linebackers and all 11 of the top defensive backs.
Fortifying that group are the free-agent additions of defensive tackle Nick Fairley, a first-round pick by Detroit, and outside linebacker Akeem Ayers, who won a Super Bowl last season with the New England Patriots.
“He has really fit in quite well here,” Williams said of Fairley. “The thing that’s been really fun for me to watch is the big eyes he had when he came in and saw the talent in that room. He saw, and all of a sudden, ‘Whoa! I’m going to have to compete for any time to get on the field with these guys.’ It’s gonna be fun packaging all those guys up.”
As for Ayers, Williams has some familiarity from the year (2013) they spent together in Tennessee.
“We’ve got to try to adapt some things to his skill set,” Williams said. “Hide the things that he doesn’t do real well but maximize the things that he does do well. And he does some really good things.”
Overall, Williams has tried to eliminate clutter from the defensive playbook — plays and schemes that for whatever reason didn’t fit or didn’t work. But he’s also added a few tricks. Williams said he has 42 packages of personnel alignments and groupings in his playbook — the defense worked on 18 of them this spring.
Familiarity with his staff after a year together has allowed Williams to give them more responsibility on the practice field. Williams isn’t as omnipresent, although it still is hard to miss him.
“The assistants know more about what I want,” Williams said.
Williams has been around the NFL long enough to know what a special defense looks like. He’s had several of them himself over the years at his many stops throughout the league.
Can this be one of them?
“We would hope so,” Williams said. “I would tell you this: I’ve had a chance to be a part of … many special defenses. I’ve been seven different places and at five of those seven places we’ve been top five or best in the world at what we do. This is a talented group.”
But a couple of things have to happen to make the leap from talented to special. One is communication. Miscommunication in the heat of a game can lead to a busted play.
“One play can beat you one way or the other,” Williams said. “But when they are on the same page and you see these guys talking, yeah, there’s a chance for them to be special.”
Another important factor, Williams says, is the passion the players have for success. As he sees it, succeeding at the highest level has to be more important to the players than it is even to the coaches.
“The good teams I’ve ever been on, and some of the greatest defenses I’ve ever been a part of, it was much more important to them than it was to me,” Williams said.
And it’s very important, obviously, to Williams. So much so that each defensive player was handed a report Thursday at the end of organized team activities, comparing where they are now to where they were at the start of the offseason program — on April 20.
“Where they grew, where they didn’t grow,” Williams said.
And what they need to accomplish on their own before the team reconvenes for the start of training camp at the end of July.
It was Williams’ way of saying: Have a nice summer.[
June 24, 2015 at 2:43 pm #26723znModeratorIMO…Wms has delivered before. And his ex-players (or the vast majority of them) speak highly of him. But I don’t always like the way he talks. There’s something…off…about it. There’s something that isn’t quite the dignified coach about it. There’s a kind of unctuousness to it. Not always but it’s there.
So I am fine with statements like this:
“The good teams I’ve ever been on, and some of the greatest defenses I’ve ever been a part of, it was much more important to them than it was to me,” Williams said.
Yeah, that’s prodding the D to act like they want it. Saying, talent alone won’t cut it.
But then, and maybe it’s me, there’s that other quality too.
I am not quite putting my finger on it.
June 24, 2015 at 9:12 pm #26729TSRFParticipantBut then, and maybe it’s me, there’s that other quality too.
I am not quite putting my finger on it
He’s a dick?
June 25, 2015 at 10:55 pm #26768znModeratorRams defenders aren’t shy about voicing their potential in 2015
elisabeth Meinecke
ST. LOUIS — Scary.
That’s how William Hayes is predicting the Rams’ defense will look in its second season under coordinator Gregg Williams.
“Last year, we were going into the season still trying to really get familiar with the scheme,” the defensive end explains. “Guys came in this year with a different mentality. We didn’t come in this year trying to figure things out. We’ve already got everything figured out. We know what’s expected of us. And we know the schemes like the back of our hand. It’s going to be scary this year.”
The unit’s final numbers last year didn’t do its talent justice, thanks to a slow start to the season. Despite two shutouts, the Rams finished 17th in the league in yards allowed last year, though slightly better than average at getting to the opponent’s quarterback (40 sacks, tied for 13th). But the stat that likely hurt most was a 6-10 record, kicked off by a 1-4 start.
The Rams’ defense, however, isn’t shy about its potential this September.
“It’s about time for us to push into that top five defense in almost every statistical category, and I think that’s what we’re aiming to do, and I think that’s what we’re going to accomplish,” says linebacker Jo-Lonn Dunbar. “I think we can go head-to-head with any offense in this league, and I think we can stand toe-to-toe with any defense.”
Or, as defensive end Eugene Sims says: “I wouldn’t say we’ll have to go toe-to-toe with any defense. Any defense will have to go toe-to-toe with us.”
These aren’t idle words, uttered carelessly or naively in the relaxed atmosphere of the offseason. Rams defenders have a healthy confidence in what they can become, and there are several reasons to think they may prove right come fall. For starters, there’s the team’s familiarity with Williams — as Hayes points out, it’s the first time in four years with the Rams that he’ll have had the same coordinator in back-to-back seasons. And Williams has been using that familiarity to harp on the concept of starting fast, so much so that Sims edited one of the alarms on his phone to “fast start.”
“Once we get in meetings (during OTAs) every day, we have a different type of picture — we have a racing picture, we have a racecar, a horse, a snake eating something, that says, ‘Fast start,'” Sims says. “He overemphasizes it every day, so we wake up to it pretty much.”
The theme runs through the entire team.
“We’re preaching start fast. That’s something we haven’t done since I’ve been here,” says Dunbar, who joined the Rams in 2012. “We usually get out of the block 2-2, 1-3, something like that. So I think if we start fast, I think that will give us the momentum to carry on throughout the season.”
One way to help accomplish that, Dunbar says, is by ensuring every practice has a sense of urgency.
“Make sure practice has a sense of urgency. Everything you do as an individual, and as a core, just a sense of urgency. And I think it’s something that if you preach, it’s basically the law of attraction,” he says. “I feel like defense is playing a little faster (in OTAs), a little quicker. I think we’re anticipating a little better.”
But there’s something else, besides the familiarity, that justifies the Rams’ confidence for the upcoming season: an even deeper roster. This offseason, the Rams acquired former first-rounder Nick Fairley, a defensive tackle, from Detroit and linebacker Akeem Ayers, who won a Super Bowl with the Patriots last season. Add those names to a unit that already includes the likes of James Laurinaitis, Chris Long, Aaron Donald, Robert Quinn, E.J. Gaines and Alec Ogletree, and you start to picture the nightmare Hayes was describing for opposing offenses. Entering his eighth NFL season, Hayes has been around long enough to know.
“It’s probably the best group of talented guys I’ve ever played with,” he says. “And I’ve played on some pretty good defenses, especially in Tennessee.”
Williams, meanwhile, appears committed to getting the most out of his roster depth and spoke at the end of OTAs about the variety of packages for his linebacker group, which also includes Dunbar, who is entering his eighth NFL season and won a Super Bowl with the Saints. The coach struck a similar tone when speaking of Fairley’s addition to the defensive front.
“The thing that has been really fun for me to watch is the big eyes that he had when he came in and saw the talent in that room,” Williams said. “We just don’t play four guys or three guys on defense. We try to have as much of a 50-50 split or 45-55 split of a ballgame keeping those guys fresh.”
For someone like Hayes, there’s a personal goal of ensuring his level of play stays consistent with his teammates.
“I don’t want there to be a huge difference from when Chris Long is in the game and when I’m in the game. I don’t want people to say, ‘Well, gosh, if Chris was in the game, that wouldn’t have happened,'” Hayes says. “My goal is never to be the drop-off. When I come in, I want to be the spark. I want excitement when I come in the game. That’s what I thrive on — just trying to be the best football player I can be.”
June 26, 2015 at 12:37 pm #26775wvParticipantI would prefer it if the D just shut up,
and played. I dont want to read about them
‘talking’ about how good they can be.w
vJune 26, 2015 at 12:52 pm #26776nittany ramModeratorI would prefer it if the D just shut up,
and played. I dont want to read about them
‘talking’ about how good they can be.w
vYeah, that “sack city” BS blew up in their faces last year when they went 5 games with just one sack. Maybe someday they’ll learn that the self praise should be tabled until they do something praiseworthy.
June 26, 2015 at 1:00 pm #26778NERamParticipantI would prefer it if the D just shut up,
and played. I dont want to read about them
‘talking’ about how good they can be.w
vAgreed. Perhaps putting together a season where there are more “W’s” than “L’s” might be a good idea. Until then, you ain’t done much, no matter how good you are in your own mind, or on paper.
Even then, once your record improves, I still think it’s better to just play good football, and shut up.
Don’t provide verbal incentives for other teams to zero in on, and don’t set yourself up for looking like an idiot if you run your mouth and then get your butt whooped.
Cold, silent, professional and focused.
I may be wrong, but I don’t remember guys like John Lynch or Troy Polamalu beating their chest too much. Hard hitters who did exactly that. Not too much of the verbal stuff.
June 26, 2015 at 3:58 pm #26782wvParticipant“Once we get in meetings (during OTAs) every day,
we have a different type of picture — we have a racing picture,
we have a racecar, a horse,
a snake eating something,
that says, ‘Fast start,’” Sims says.
“He overemphasizes it every day, so we wake up to it pretty much.”Um…a racing picture, a racecar, a horse….and…a snake eating something.
Now is it just me, or does that list have something
that doesn’t quite belong?w
vJune 26, 2015 at 4:06 pm #26784znModeratorUm…a racing picture, a racecar, a horse….and…a snake eating something.
Now is it just me, or does that list have something
that doesn’t quite belong?w
vSnakes are quick. He is talking about a snake striking prey. Not a snake sitting back with some wine and candles complimenting the rice.
June 26, 2015 at 8:43 pm #26795wvParticipantUm…a racing picture, a racecar, a horse….and…a snake eating something.
Now is it just me, or does that list have something
that doesn’t quite belong?w
vSnakes are quick. He is talking about a snake striking prey. Not a snake sitting back with some wine and candles complimenting the rice.
I wonder if ancient Jurassic snakes had feathers?
Just somethin I wonder.
w
v
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