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November 6, 2015 at 7:52 am #33725znModerator
Are they finally there? Rams defense on verge of elite status
Jim Thomas
Defense has been a lost art for so long in this corner of the NFL. From 2006 through 2011 for example, encompassing the head-coaching tenures of Scott Linehan and Steve Spagnuolo, the Rams yielded 30 or more points on 37 occasions.
This is where fantasy football numbers came to thrive — for teams playing the Rams, that is. Then came Jeff Fisher in 2012, a veteran coach with a reputation for tough, physical, aggressive defense.
The earlier Fisher Rams teams alternately teased and tormented on defense. As draft picks and free agents arrived — mainly draft picks — a young defense showed flashes of strong play but experienced more than its share of growing pains.
After a two-year delay triggered by his role in the New Orleans “Bounty-gate” scandal, defensive guru Gregg Williams finally arrived in 2014. Last year’s unit had a catchy nickname for its pass rush —#Sack City — and flirted with top-10 status.
Over the second half of the season, the unit started to come together. After back-to-back shutouts of Oakland and Washington after Thanksgiving, the Rams were 10th in total defense. But that defense only teased, because in Game 15 it was shredded for 37 points and 514 yards by Eli Manning, Odell Beckham Jr., and the New York Giants. The 2014 Rams finished 17th in total defense, respectable but certainly not elite.
So here comes 2015. For the first time since 2011, the Rams have the same defensive coordinator back for another season. Ten of 11 defensive starters returned, a retention rate unheard of in the modern age of free agency and the salary cap. The depth was there as well, with 19 of the 23 defensive players on the 2014 roster opening the season on the 2015 roster.
The Rams (4-3) reach the midpoint of this season with a key game at Minnesota (5-2). The visitors walk out for the noon kickoff at TCF Bank Stadium with the NFL’s sixth-ranked unit in total defense.
It has been 12 years since the Rams have been ranked that highly this far into a season. One of the bright young stars of this unit, defensive tackle Aaron Donald, was 12 years old at the time — Week 11 of the 2003 season. So it’s been a while.
The 2015 Rams also rank fourth in scoring defense, first in red zone defense, tied for second in sacks and are eighth in third-down conversion defense. The unit’s current self-imposed nickname, “Mob Squad,” hasn’t quite taken off. But the defense has.
So is it safe to say it? Has the Rams’ defense finally arrived as an elite unit? Is this the kind of defense Fisher has been seeking since he arrived here in 2012?
“We’re getting there,” he said. “The thing I like about the defense right now is that Alec Ogletree was playing really good football. We’ve been able to not replace him, but get by. Mark (Barron)’s playing really good ball right now as is Akeem (Ayers).”
Ogletree, who was playing weakside linebacker at a Pro-Bowl level, has been out the past three weeks following ankle surgery. He won’t be back until, at the earliest, the final couple of games of the regular season.
Similarly, defensive end Chris Long hasn’t played since suffering a knee injury Oct. 11 and could be sidelined at least another couple of weeks. But the Rams haven’t missed a beat with William Hayes stepping into the starting lineup for Long and Ethan Westbrooks spelling Hayes.
“When Ethan comes in there’s no dropoff,” Fisher said. “Will (Hayes) stepped up in Chris’ absence, and Eugene (Sims) can play when Rob (Quinn)’s not in. So we’ve got depth. When we’re moving people around we’re still getting the production.”
The Rams haven’t had this kind of depth before on defense.
“No, I don’t think we did,” Fisher said. “We know now. Even guys that haven’t had chances to play many snaps on defense. For example, like Cody Davis (at safety). No reservation whatsoever with Cody going in playing defense for us, based on what he’s doing on special teams and what I’ve seen on the practice field.
“If somebody goes down for a few minutes or for a series, somebody goes in and there’s no dropoff. It’s not like you’re concerned about ’em, or you gotta protect him, or you’re concerned about an offense attacking that position.”
That depth could be sorely tested against Minnesota because starters T.J. McDonald at strong safety and Quinn at defensive end are listed as questionable, with foot and knee injuries respectively. Neither practiced Friday, which is usually not a good sign for a player’s availability for Sunday.
But as mentioned, Fisher has confidence in Sims should he have to step in for Quinn. He feels that Eureka High product Maurice Alexander is ready should McDonald be a pre-game scratch.
Similar to Fisher, defensive coordinator Williams likes where the defense is headed, but isn’t ready to make any bold proclamations. Time and experience has shown that just when you say something like “our defense has arrived” you get smacked down the next Sunday.
So the depth has kept the defense playing at a high level. Can the Rams keep it up?
Similar to Fisher, Williams has been asked several times this season if the defense has reached elite status. He’s still not ready to go there.
“Again, it’s still early in the season for me to say that,” Williams said. “When get (to) those kind of things, it’s kind of when the season’s all over and done with.”
Williams has said for months that even with the talent assembled, the players must take ownership of the defense — care enough to have a say in what they do and how they prepare — in order to consistently play at the highest level. He thinks they’re getting there.
“They’re doing very well,” Williams said. “These guys, if we can stay healthy — we’ve gotta keep all of our guys healthy — they have a chance to really do it. They have a chance to be very good.”
But the Rams still have some dominant offenses to face, and some high-level quarterbacks to play. (Although Minnesota’s offense and Vikings quarterback Teddy Bridgewater don’t fall into that category this week.)
“We’ve got a lot to do yet,” Williams said. “We’ve got a long ways to go. And you know what I want to do? I want to see are they gonna be the best defense this weekend? It’s each and every weekend.
“We can’t take any plays off. We can’t take any days off. We’ve had several nice weekends in a row. All of that is over and behind us now. We’ve got to go do it this weekend.”
And eight more weekends after that.
November 6, 2015 at 7:52 am #33619znModeratorRams defense ranked sixth even without Ogletree, Long
By R.B. Fallstrom AP
ST. LOUIS — St. Louis’ defense is ranked sixth in the NFL, using a deep rotation to keep the pressure on opponents and keeping production high without two top starters.
The Rams dominated the last two games, allowing just four field goals.
“We’re just raising the bar every week,” said tackle Michael Brockers, who had a sack and combined with middle linebacker James Laurinaitis for a safety last week in a 27-6 victory over San Francisco. “We’re not being complacent with stats or what everybody is saying about you.”
Outside linebacker Alec Ogletree was leading the team in tackles when he was sidelined by a broken ankle. The Rams (4-3) moved rugged safety Mark Barron to linebacker and he had 19 tackles, a season best for the team, in a victory over Cleveland two weeks ago. End Chris Long will miss his third straight game with a knee injury this week at Minnesota (5-2), and backup William Hayes has stepped up to fill that void.
The Rams still have four former first-round picks on the line, an area of emphasis under coach Jeff Fisher and general manager Les Snead. They’re getting effective play out of all of them.
“We’ve got depth,” Fisher said. “When we’re moving people around, we’re still getting the production.”
Budget free-agent pickup Akeem Ayers has had his moments at outside linebacker. Undrafted end Ethan Westbrooks, who beat out Michael Sam for the final defensive line spot last summer, has a sack each of the last two games. Nick Fairley has been effective clogging the middle as part of the rotation, and Eugene Sims has had his moments spelling sack leader Robert Quinn, a Pro Bowler the last two years who has five on the year.
Tackle Aaron Donald, the NFL defensive rookie of the year last year, has again been a handful and has 4 1/2 sacks.
Numbers showed in the secondary last week, too. Maurice Alexander made a few nice tackles when starting safety T.J. McDonald was out for a short time, and Marcus Roberson made a stop when cornerback Trumaine Johnson needed a quick breather.
Fisher and defensive coordinator Gregg Williams didn’t have this luxury a few years ago or even last year when the team could only aspire to top 10 status.
“Somebody goes down for a few minutes or for a series, somebody goes in and there’s no drop-off,” Fisher said. “It’s not like you’re concerned about him or you have to protect him, or you’re concerned about an offense attacking that position.”
The 49ers were held to 189 yards last week, went just three for 17 on third down and were shut out in the second half. A week earlier the Rams had four sacks and recovered four fumbles against the Browns.
Hayes had two sacks, two forced fumbles and a fumble recovery against the Browns.
Williams stays on them, making sure nobody gets too big of a head.
“The best thing about Gregg is he sees big picture,” Laurinaitis said. “He tells us all the time we’re not even scratching the surface, that we can always be better, and I think everybody’s buying into that.”
It’s easy to sell this week, given the Vikings whipped the Rams 34-6 in last season’s opener. Wide receiver Cordarelle Patterson had 102 yards on just three carries, and Laurinaitis said the Rams basically made him look “untackle-able.”
“The last time they punched us right in the mouth out of the gate,” Laurinaitis said. “I think it’s always good to kind of go back and revisit those feelings.”
Notes: Rookie offensive tackle Rob Havenstein (Achilles) did not practice. He’s wearing a walking boot and Fisher is optimistic he’ll return to practice Friday after the players’ day off Thursday. … Quinn (knee) and Hayes (thigh) also did not practice but are expected to be fine for Sunday. … Running back/special teams ace Chase Reynolds (thigh) also was held out, and running back Tre Mason (ankle) and safety T.J. McDonald (foot) were limited. … Fisher said the Rams have not heard back from NFL operations “to my knowledge” about possible solutions to visiting players slipping on the concrete flooring in front of the stands.
November 8, 2015 at 8:59 am #33726DakParticipantNot a big fan of the nickname Mob Squad. Didn’t like Sack City, either.
I don’t think they’re good enough to even have a name right now. I think if they actually win something, like some playoff games, then they’re worthy of a title.
November 8, 2015 at 10:14 am #33736ZooeyModeratorFisher said the Rams have not heard back from NFL operations “to my knowledge” about possible solutions to visiting players slipping on the concrete flooring in front of the stands.
Okay, the defense is good, and all that, but what about this story? I don’t understand why they are appealing to the NFL in the first place. Put down some heavy rubber mats. Or extend the turf.
November 8, 2015 at 10:26 am #33738nittany ramModeratorNot a big fan of the nickname Mob Squad. Didn’t like Sack City, either.
I don’t think they’re good enough to even have a name right now. I think if they actually win something, like some playoff games, then they’re worthy of a title.
Well, I think they are on the verge of being good enough to have a nickname. They’ve played well in every game this year except one and have been dominating in some games.
I also didn’t like “Sack City” at the time. I would have gone with ‘Sack Louis’. It’s sorta reminiscent of the Steelers’ nickname ‘Blitzburgh’ in the 90’s.
But I like Mob Squad. I especially like that it was coined by a player (Aaron Donald) and not a journalist.
November 8, 2015 at 12:18 pm #33752znModeratorThey need a song.
How about this.
We trade yards for points
But we’ll pop you jointsI think it’s catchy.
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