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September 16, 2014 at 4:04 pm #7584RamBillParticipant
Rams’ defense had strange day in Tampa
By Nick Wagonerhttp://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/11756/rams-defense-had-strange-day-in-tampa
EARTH CITY, Mo. — After re-watching the St. Louis Rams’ 19-17 win against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and combing through some of the statistics, there were a few things that stood out from the defense’s performance.
While the Bucs managed just 17 points, they posted 332 total yards of offense, including 157 yards on the ground. What was most surprising upon further inspection, though, was when those yards were coming.
Even before re-watching and charting the game, it seemed like the Rams were having great success stopping the Bucs on first down and putting them into second-and-long situations. Upon taking a closer look, the difference was even more obvious than expected.
— On first down, the Buccaneers rarely gained more than a couple of yards throughout the day. Quarterback Josh McCown was 5-of-9 for 36 yards and an interception. The run game that posted those big numbers above was almost nonexistent as Tampa runners combined for 22 yards on 15 carries. Adding that up, the Bucs gained just 58 of their 332 yards on first down.
— Second down allowed the Bucs to make up for it in a big way. McCown was 9-of-10 for 131 yards on second down and Bucs runners posted 112 yards on 10 carries. That means Tampa Bay gained 243 of its 332 yards on second down, good for 73 percent of its total yards.
— The Bucs converted four of their eight third-down attempts as McCown completed both of his passes for 12 yards and they rushed five times for 23 yards with a touchdown on third down. Of the 332 total yards, the Bucs gained 35 yards. The Rams’ lone sack of the day, split between cornerback E.J. Gaines and end Eugene Sims, also came on a third down for a loss of 4 yards.
On Monday afternoon, I asked coach Jeff Fisher if he could put his finger on any particular reason for his defense’s success on first down and struggles on second down or if it was just one of those random occurrences that tend to pop up in an NFL season. He leaned toward the latter.
“We’re working on it,” Fisher said. “We’ve got to be more consistent on all downs. We’ve got to get better on third down and we’ve got to play run defense better.”
In going back and watching the game again, I wondered if perhaps the struggles on second down were a result of having so much success on first down. In other words, did the Rams’ tendency to put the Bucs in second-and-long leave coordinator Gregg Williams dialing up blitzes that didn’t get home or the Bucs beating them with misdirection in the running game? While that wasn’t always the case, there were some examples of that.
Facing second-and-9 in the third quarter, McCown dropped back to pass with Williams sending eight rushers. That left three Bucs receivers one-on-one down the field. McCown stayed in the pocket and delivered a strike to receiver Vincent Jackson for a gain of 20.
Later in the third quarter, the Bucs had a second-and-10 at the Rams’ 30 and Williams overloaded the left side with safety T.J. McDonald and linebacker Alec Ogletree with linebacker James Laurinaitis shading that direction. At the snap, McCown handed to running back Bobby Rainey, who ran through a wide open hole on the right side of the defense (his left). With Laurinaitis unable to cover the ground in time, Rainey picked up 18 yards.
Rainey later added a 31-yard run in the fourth quarter when the Rams again attempted to bring additional pressure from the left side, though that run started up the middle and Rainey made a nice cutback to gain most of the yards.
It’s unlikely that this is some sort of a trend, the splits weren’t similar in Week 1 against Minnesota. In reality, this is probably more a function of Williams still getting to know his personnel and figuring out when and where to deploy some of his blitzes and how to best put his players in position to succeed.
September 16, 2014 at 4:43 pm #7586AgamemnonParticipantSeptember 16, 2014 at 5:20 pm #7588HerzogParticipantHow about stop blitzing and maintain gap responsibility until teams show that they aren’t going to run up and down the field on you…
just a thought
September 16, 2014 at 7:07 pm #7590znModeratorYou know, I think there’s something to that. I don’t know all the details, but during the game, we were saying that the Bux were burning the Rams on their big blitz packages, both on the run and the pass.
September 17, 2014 at 1:15 am #7611RamBillParticipantThings We Noticed: Game 2 vs. Tampa Bay
• By Jim ThomasPost-Dispatch football writer Jim Thomas takes a final look at the Rams’ game at Tampa Bay:
DEFENSE UPSIDE DOWN
Perhaps the biggest concern entering the season _ at least before Sam Bradford’s season-ending knee injury _ was the secondary. Could these inexperienced guys cover anybody? Could they tackle anybody? Well, two games into the season they have played surprisingly well, particularly safeties T.J. McDonald and Rodney McLeod. Janoris Jenkins has played with more consistency and more discipline, and E.J. Gaines doesn’t look like a rookie. But it’s the front seven, you know the group with all those first-round draft picks and the catchy #SackCity nickname, that is struggling. Granted, Chris Long wasn’t on the field Sunday against Tampa following injury, but the shoddy play of the run defense was alarming. If Bobby Rainey can gain 144 yards and average 6.5 yards a carry, what kind of havoc will Rams killer DeMarco Murray of Dallas wreak on the defense Sunday.
GOLDSON’S GRUESOME HIT
Hard-hitting Tampa Bay safety Dashon Goldson was fined $455,000 for illegal hits last season, according to Yahoo! Sports, including $60,000 for one on Rams wide receiver Stedman Bailey. Since blows to the head are taboo _ and subject to fines _ as Goldson has been made aware of time after time in his NFL career, he decided to go low on Rams fullback/tight end Cory Harkey. More precisely, Goldson launched himself at Harkey’s knees. The replay looks gruesome, with the left knee bending in a way it’s not designed to bend. It’s amazing that Harkey didn’t suffer a season-ending knee injury on the play and even more amazing that Harkey returned for the game. If it were a quarterback who got hit like that, there would’ve been a penalty and Goldson might have been tossed from the game. But apparently fullback/tight ends are disposable objects. There was no penalty, and it’ll be interesting to see if Goldson even gets fined.
HORSE PLAY
Defensive end Eugene Sims is a talented fifth-year pro who plays with a lot of energy and passion. But two horse-collar tackles in one game? The first penalty for pulling a player down from behind by his collar turned a fourth-and-1 for Tampa at the St. Louis 35 into a first-and-10 at the 20. The Bucs went on to score a touchdown on their opening drive. The second horse-collar penalty came with 33 seconds left in the first half deep in Tampa territory, so it had no consequence on the game. Make no mistake, Jeff Fisher talked to Sims about it. “We did; we talked after,” Fisher said. “He apologized. Just leaving the ground on one _ it’s an effort play. You just can’t grab the collar though.”
OFFICIATING
A questionable roughing the passer call on Rams linebacker Jo-Lonn Dunbar in the fourth quarter turned what would’ve been fourth-and-5 from the Tampa 23 into a first down on the 38. The Bucs ended up scoring their final points of the game on the drive on a Patrick Murray field goal for a 17-16 lead. Dunbar appeared to strike Tampa quarterback Josh McCown on the shoulder, not on the helmet. It was Fisher’s contention that because referee Jeff Triplette was stationed behind the quarterback, he simply assumed that because McCown’s head snapped back from the blow that it was a helmet-to-helmet hit.
BRIEFLY
Two games in, the Rams’ receiving unit is catching just about everything thrown at them. And that’s much, much different than a year ago, particularly over the first half of the 2013 season. . . .DT Aaron Donald is coming on. Coaches review of game film had him with four tackles for loss against Tampa Bay. . . .The Bucs had a lot of success running to the Rams’ right. . . .Interesting, don’t you think, that Tim Barnes came in as the extra blocker down near the goal line Sunday, and not No. 2 overall pick Greg Robinson?
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