Refs also missed several calls that really hurt Rams

Agamemnon wrote:

The Rams still had to tie the game and then, win it in overtime. It is almost like the end of our superbowl win where Tenn came up a yard short.

i mean i wish it hadn’t happened. i wish nrc had just swatted it.

i saw a tweet where thiry said the refs told nrc that it was tipped. i’m looking at video but i can’t really tell.

regardless there were calls that weren’t called that potentially cost the rams points too.

it is what it is.

• This reply was modified 5 years, 11 months ago by InvaderRam.

Hram wrote:

Yes, there were some missed calls earlier in the game, but I don’t think there were many blatant missed calls.

The pass interference by NRC was blatant.

Doesn’t take away from the win at all imo. Great game by both teams. Don’t think anyone got hurt which is huge.

All true IMO. And unfortunately the non-call will never go away. For non-Rams fans it will define that game forever.

Is that fair or right? I am not even sure that;s the right question. It just is what it is.

I do think this though. If the situation were reversed and the Rams could have won except for a non-call near the end like that, my guess is most of us would NEVER let it go.

Here’s what we can do though. We can patiently wait for the day when the McVay Rams have done so much that the non-call just becomes old history. It won’t disappear but it can be superseded. Till then think of it as just another speed bump in the way of the Rams getting the respect they deserve.

That’s how I am taking it anyway.

Nothin wrong with that approach IMO.

I’ve heard several sports guys trying to make the point about other penalties that weren’t called for the Rams and how the game doesn’t happen in a vaccuum and the saints still had time but couldn’t win it and on and on. none of that matters to non Rams fans. Their minds are made up that this call decided the game. Period. You will never change their mind.

Zn is right. If it were the Rams in that position I’d scream. I get it.

But the Rams did not officiate the game. There was no “fix” just incompetence.

Do not leave it in the refs hands. Ever.

Even with home field advantage, the Saints could not pull it out.

The Patriots still hear about the “tuck” rule.

They still have all those championships. I still bitch about the Pats mugging Falk in the Superbowl. Doesn’t matter.

This will eventually fade, although it will hover like a ghost.

Go win the Superbowl. Nothing to do but look forward.

PA Ram wrote:

Even with home field advantage, the Saints could not pull it out.

The Patriots still hear about the “tuck” rule.

They still have all those championships. I still bitch about the Pats mugging Falk in the Superbowl. Doesn’t matter.

This will eventually fade, although it will hover like a ghost.

Yeah when a game defining call or non-call happens late, it is always remembered. So for example we all know about The Tuck Rule (which you mention) and The Immaculate Reception.

BUT a good team can persevere and when it does, that kind of thing takes on less importance in its legacy.

It doesn’t go away. And no one ever gets more reasonable about it. It just matters less.

….

actually payton should be glad the refs blew that call.

if nrc had just turned his head and raised his hand to knock the ball.

and if everything else had played out as it did. you can bet payton would be questioned about his decision to run the ball.

instead he can deflect and just bury the refs and not have to look at the mistakes he made which cost the saints.

zn wrote:

I do think this though. If the situation were reversed and the Rams could have won except for a non-call near the end like that, my guess is most of us would NEVER let it go.

that’s what i’m responding to.

i would let it go. i’m usually not this sure. but i can say with almost certainty that i would. and if mcvay had called for a pass instead of a run like payton did, i would have raked him over the coals for that decision.

as far as most non-rams fans?

i don’t know. i definitely think it’s slanted toward the non-call, but there’s a fair amount of fans who take the other side. not saints fans of course. that’ll burn for a long time.

I dunno.

I don’t think many people care enough to cling to any narrative on the game one way or the other.

Outside of Saints and Rams fans, that is.

The rule re: challenging judgement calls may be changed as a result.

But I don’t think most fans are going to remember or care in two weeks, let alone two years.

It hurts fans because of the timing they feel it costs them the game. That is nonsense but I can understand how that thought distortion transpired.If Legatron misses the first kick and the Saints win it would be a non-issue so the loss caused the issue,not the issue caused the loss.

Zooey wrote:

I dunno.

I don’t think many people care enough to cling to any narrative on the game one way or the other.

Well around here it’s everywhere. It comes up constantly and is the single most dominant thing said about the Rams. My wife’s drive to work is about 45 minutes and basically that’s all that got said about the Rams on the radio. They’re not very good, the refs gave them the game. I’ve already experienced it a few times—a friend will say, but they stole the game on the non-call, and I’ll go bs the Saints had a chance after that to win and threw an INT, and what I get is laughter…as in, oh look, Rams fan, of course he’s going to say stuff like that. It’s not even derisive, it’s just hey you;re cute when you stick up for your team like that in the face of obvious truth.

zn wrote:

Zooey wrote:

I dunno.

I don’t think many people care enough to cling to any narrative on the game one way or the other.

Well around here it’s everywhere. It comes up constantly and is the single most dominant thing said about the Rams. My wife’s drive to work is about 45 minutes and basically that’s all that got said about the Rams on the radio. They’re not very good, the refs gave them the game. I’ve already experienced it a few times—a friend will say, but they stole the game on the non-call, and I’ll go bs the Saints had a chance after that to win and threw an INT, and what I get is laughter…as in, oh look, Rams fan, of course he’s going to say stuff like that. It’s not even derisive, it’s just hey you;re cute when you stick up for your team like that in the face of obvious truth.

Okay.

What you do is you get some 12″ Cable Zip Ties, and you zip a shopping cart to their car door handle.

That way you get the last laugh.

Zooey wrote:

4 catches 36 yards— Mike Thomas

9 carries 31 yards — mark Ingram

8 carries 15 yards— Alvin Kamara

The refs decided the game though.

Oh I don’t think the refs decided the game. Far from it.

What I do think is that for many, that argument doesn’t go anywhere. The “non-call” fills their mental horizon.

from Rams’ McVay knows PI call missed, but also saw Goff facemask

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/rams-mcvay-knows-pi-call-missed-but-also-saw-goff-facemask/2019/01/21/aae3c614-1ded-11e9-a759-2b8541bbbe20_story.html

THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. — When the Los Angeles Rams’ team bus rolled into their suburban training complex after a boisterous flight from New Orleans, the players and coaches were greeted by rowdy fans welcoming home the new NFC champions in the middle of the night.

The Rams and their fans lost some sleep Sunday night — but not about that missed pass interference on Nickell Robey-Coleman that could have altered the outcome of Los Angeles’ 26-23 overtime victory in the NFC championship game.

“I’m not going to sit here and say there clearly wasn’t a little bit of contact before that ball actually arrived,” Rams coach Sean McVay said Monday. “But whether he catches it or not, there’s a lot of things that go into that. … I feel bad for when it occurred in the framework of the game, but I thought (Saints coach) Sean (Payton) said it best: There’s a lot of other opportunities, and there’s a lot of things that do dictate and determine the outcome of the game.”

And after watching the tape of their remarkable win, the Rams had a few questions of their own for the officiating crew.

Specifically, the Rams couldn’t understand how the refs didn’t call Saints linebacker A.J. Klein’s apparent grab of Jared Goff’s facemask on the Rams’ previous drive. A penalty would have given a first down to the Rams at the New Orleans 1, putting them in prime position to take a 24-20 lead with a touchdown with 5:03 to play.

“When you slow it down, clearly you can see some of the things that took place. If you want to do that on every single play, though, there’s a lot of instances. You want to slow some things down with a facemask on Goff, some different things,” McVay said. “What we try to do a good job of understanding is that it is an imperfect game.”

The Rams’ latest victory wasn’t perfect, but it was historic. This franchise is still deep in the years-long process of rebuilding its once-huge fan base in Southern California after 21 years away in St. Louis.

A trip to the Super Bowl in just their third season back home is an awfully good way to send that process into warp speed.

The Rams are headed to their first Super Bowl in 17 years. The Rams had only two winning seasons in between those Super Bowl runs, but McVay’s team has swiftly reversed years of failure and put the Rams on the brink of Los Angeles’ first NFL championship since the 1983 season, when the Raiders won it all.

“We’ve been through a lot, and for us to go out there and grind through all this adversity just shows you how close we are in this room,” said guard Rodger Saffold, the longest-tenured Rams player in his ninth season. “The fans were excited for us to come back, and now, three years later, we’re on the biggest stage in sports. The city is electric for us.”