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    This is what the internet will miss, now:
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    Thats good stuff in that last vid. But i think part of that is just….oh….the ‘wisdom’ that comes from age. I dont know that very many young people can learn that. I dunno.

    I still dont think Bernie would have won if he had called himself an FDR liberal, or something other than a democratic socialist. There’s only so much ‘good packaging’ can accomplish. The left does have some packaging problems, but thats not the main problem. The main problem is decades and decades of corporate money/propaganda coupled with flat-out force (mccarthyism, capitalist-laws, etc)

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    On the 3rd vid with Brooks, the one posted by you (wv) that’s titled “Michael Brooks on his background, his book, and Bernie (opening remarks at Lafayette).” One key point in that which I completely buy is that one key difference between the left and right (and centrism too) is the distinction between historicizing and naturalizing. Leftists go, what are the material and historical conditions and forces that led to this thing. The right goes, this is how people are and it;s just how things work. I think he starts that bit at about 9:10 in.

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    On the 3rd vid with Brooks, the one posted by you (wv) that’s titled “Michael Brooks on his background, his book, and Bernie (opening remarks at Lafayette).” One key point in that which I completely buy is that one key difference between the left and right (and centrism too) is the distinction between historicizing and naturalizing. Leftists go, what are the material and historical conditions and forces that led to this thing. The right goes, this is how people are and it;s just how things work. I think he starts that bit at about 9:10 in.

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    Yup. There’s a similar dynamic in Court. Prosecutors/Cops/Judges tend to Naturalize, and public-defender-types tend to Historicize.

    Cop/Prosecutor: “Defendant is lazy, bad, evil…”
    Public-Defender: “…poverty, poverty, poverty…”

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    Naturalizing in the 1780s.
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    “….1780s…most prosperous Americans tended to have a vastly different perspective on relief legislation than that of most debtor farmers…
    …..from the perspective of more affluent Americans, people’s failure to pay taxes was primarily attributable to their indolence and licentiousness. Governor William Livingston of New Jersey, writing as a ‘Primitive Whig,’ complained…of the ‘lazy, lounging, lubberly’ fellows who sat around drinking, ‘working perhaps but two days in the week and receiving for that work double the wages [they] earn and spending the rest of [their] time in squandering those….non-earnings in riot and debauch,’ yet then dared to complain ‘when the collector calls for his tax of the hardness of the times.’ The farmer who protested that he could not pay taxes was ‘a man whose three daughters are under the discipline of a French dancing master when they ought every one of them to be at the spinning wheel,’ and while they should be ‘dressed in decent homespun, as were their frugal grandmothers, now carry half of their father’s crops upon their backs.’
    The well-to-do held a similar perspective on paper money laws and debtor relief legislation opining that these measures ‘enabled idle spendthrifts and dissipating drones of the community’ to live upon the ‘sweat of their neighbor’s brows.’ Because private debt ‘almost universally arises from ‘idleness and extravagance,’ Richard Henry Lee of Virginia argued……
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    Constitutional Coup, M.Klarman

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