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    Rams haven’t been favored by this many points on the road in 12 years

    Cameron DaSilva

    Rams haven't been favored by this many points on the road in 12 years

    The Rams rose one spot to No. 6 in this week’s power rankings, while the Giants stayed at 29 Los Angeles and the Giants both had Week 8 off, so there wasn’t expected to be much movement The Rams are 5-2 and tied for first in the NFC West, while New York is 1-6 and last in its division The Giants will host the Rams on Sunday at 1 p.m. ET at MetLife Stadium

    When the betting line for the Los Angeles Rams’ Week 9 game opened, it didn’t seem like much. It was just 3.5 points – no big deal. However, that line has since moved to four points, which makes the line far more notable.

    It’s the first time the Rams have been favored by four or more points on the road since Week 1 of 2005 when they were 4.5-point favorites over the 49ers. Since then, they’ve been 3.5-point favorites three times with the most recent game coming in Week 17 of the 2015 season.

    All things considered, it’s pretty shocking that the Rams haven’t been favored by this many points on the road in more than a decade. We all know the Rams haven’t been good in a long, long time, but being favored by fewer than four points in every single road game since 2006 is shocking.

    Going back to that 2005 game where they were 4.5-point favorites over the 49ers, the Rams actually lost that one. San Francisco knocked off St. Louis by a score of 28-25 despite only putting up 217 yards of total offense compared to the Rams’ 405.

    Marc Bulger threw for 362 yards and two touchdowns, but his comeback wasn’t enough to overcome a 28-9 deficit in the second half.[

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    The mighty Tim Rattay had a 141 QB rating against the Rams in that SF game.

    link:http://www.footballdb.com/games/boxscore.html?gid=2005091113

    Bulger threw it 56 times.

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    Looking ahead to Sunday’s game between the Giants and the Rams

    Art Stapleton

    http://www.northjersey.com/story/sports/nfl/giants/2017/10/31/looking-ahead-sundays-game-between-giants-and-rams/818023001/

    Early line

    Rams by 3.5: The Giants are 7-0 against the Rams since 2002, outscoring them 216-124 over that span. That includes a 17-10 victory last season in London at Twickenham Stadium during the NFL’s International Series. Just judging by this season, though, it would appear that these two teams are headed in opposite directions. The Rams have won two in a row and lead the NFC West behind 31-year-old head coach Sean McVay, whose presence has invigorated the Los Angeles offense. The Giants have lost all three of their home games this season after finishing 7-1 at the Meadowlands in 2016.

    In the spotlight

    Rams LT Andrew Whitworth. The one that got away. Giants fans and those of us in the media will spend the week again talking about how Big Blue brass opted not to pursue Whitworth in free agency. That will shift attention to Giants LT Ereck Flowers, of course, and his unsteady play at best in stark contrast to that of the 35-year-old Whitworth, whose presence at left tackle has been viewed as a game-changer in helping the Rams reinvent their offense.

    New York Giants tight end Evan Engram (88) runs upfield
    New York Giants tight end Evan Engram (88) runs upfield during the first half of an NFL football game against the Denver Broncos, Sunday, Oct. 15, 2017, in Denver. (Photo: AP Photo)
    Game plan

    The Rams’ offense has been fun to watch under McVay with the emergence of former No. 1 pick Jared Goff at quarterback. This has also been a bounce back season for RB Todd Gurley, who is averaging 131 all-purpose yards per game, which is second in the league. A focus for the Giants will be to slow Gurley down, which they did last season (92 total yards). The Giants have allowed eight touchdowns to tight ends in seven games.

    The Giants will again be challenged offensively if Justin Pugh (back) is unable to go. Rams All-Pro DT Aaron Donald will wreck the game if given a chance. Eli Manning could really use WR Sterling Shepard back in the fold. His ankle injury has kept him sidelined the last two games. TE Evan Engram has 11 catches for 142 yards and two touchdowns with Odell Beckham Jr., Brandon Marshall and Shepard sidelined.

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    Meet this week’s Rams opponent: New York Giants

    RICH HAMMOND

    link: http://www.dailynews.com/2017/10/31/meet-this-weeks-rams-opponent-new-york-giants/

    The reunion between the Rams and cornerback Janoris Jenkins won’t take place Sunday morning.

    Jenkins, the Rams’ top cornerback before he left via free agency after the 2015 season and signed with the New York Giants, won’t face his former team this week. It’s been a difficult season for the Giants, and it took another turn when they indefinitely suspended Jenkins for an undisclosed violation of team rules.

    According to a report from ESPN, Jenkins did not show up to team headquarters Monday, the first day after the Giants’ bye week, and Coach Ben McAdoo said he didn’t hear from Jenkins until Tuesday.

    “As a member of this team, there are standards and we have responsibilities and obligations,” McAdoo said in a statement. “When we don’t fulfill those obligations, there are consequences. As I have said before, we do not handle our team discipline publicly. There are times when it is unavoidable, and this is one of those times.”

    Jenkins has been solid in six games this season, with one interception (which he returned for a touchdown), but probably not enough to justify the huge contract he signed with the Giants last year.

    The Rams, at that time, chose to apply their franchise-player tag to fellow cornerback Trumaine Johnson and let Jenkins leave via free agency. Jenkins signed a five-year, $62.5 million deal with the Giants. Jenkins made the Pro Bowl last season, when he had three interceptions in 15 games.

    WHO’S COACHING THE GIANTS?

    McAdoo’s first season with the Giants hasn’t been simple. Not only is the team underachieving, with a 1-6 record, but the Giants also suspended cornerback Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie after he walked out of a team meeting, and they’ve lost receivers Odell Beckham Jr. and Brandon Marshall to injuries.

    It’s been a relatively quick rise for McAdoo, 40, who was an NFL quarterbacks coach just four years ago.

    McAdoo joined the Giants as offensive coordinator in 2014. The next season, the Giants had the sixth-highest scoring offense in the NFL, and McAdoo was promoted after the 2015 season when Coach Tom Coughlin was forced into resignation.

    BY THE NUMBERS

    5.5: Yards allowed by the Giants’ defense, per rushing attempt, when the opponent runs to the right side. That’s pretty stark because the Giants, overall, have allowed only 4.2 yards per rushing attempt.

    16.0: The Giants’ point-per-game average this season, third-worst in the NFL. Last year, the Giants averaged only 19.4 points per game but went 11-5 and made the playoffs.

    2: Rushing touchdowns by the Giants this season. The Rams’ Todd Gurley has five rushing touchdowns.

    PLAYER TO WATCH

    It’s tough to believe that Eli Manning, once best known as Peyton’s little brother, is closing in on his 37th birthday, and this might be the most challenging of Manning’s 14 NFL seasons.

    Injuries and losing have put more pressure on Manning, but through seven games, Manning has put up a 64.2 completion percentage. If that holds up, it would (narrowly) be the best percentage of his career.

    Manning has only one interception in his last four games but failed to throw for more than 150 yards in either of his last two. Manning is coming off his worst game of the season, a loss to Seattle in which he completed 19 of 39 attempts for 134 yards, one touchdown and zero interceptions.

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    What They’re Saying: The New York Giants

    Kristen Lago

    http://www.therams.com/news-and-events/article-1/What-Theyre-Saying-The-New-York-Giants-/07ba0170-e4e7-4f24-b838-df38d113dcff

    Each week TheRams.com will be taking a look at what Los Angeles’ opponents have to say about facing the Rams. In Week 9, the Rams will travel to MetLife Stadium to face off against the New York Giants in a non-conference matchup. Check out what the Giants’ coaches and players had to say about their contest against the Los Angeles Rams on Sunday afternoon:

    On what has changed for the Rams this season:

    “The biggest thing is their quarterback. He’s getting them going now. He’s not afraid to throw it downfield. I would say he’s not a rookie anymore and he’s got experience and he’s playing great ball, took that team to limits they haven’t seen in a minute. He just keeps on pushing, so yeah, their quarterback is their biggest difference.”

    – Giants’ Safety Landon Collins

    “Guys are just making plays and they are winning close games. Everybody is playing more as a unit whereas last year they had the new quarterback who didn’t really play. Still, he’s coming into his own right now and he’s got a lot to prove.”

    – Giants’ Defensive end Olivier Vernon

    “On defense and special teams there’s a lot of similarities. The system may be different on defense, but you’re getting a very good front seven that plays hard, that had a ton of speed and creates messes in the back field. And special teams is a challenge to play obviously, with everything that they do from a formation, a schematic standpoint to challenge you. They try to force you to play on your heels. Offensively is where they’re a little bit different and not really necessarily some of the things you’ll see schematically, but the tempo and the pace that they play with. They try to change speeds on you that way in and out of the huddle with some no huddle and try to match up what they’re doing underneath and down the field, but they have a lot of new starters – three new guys on the offensive line, new skilled players. A quarterback that’s young and coming into his own and a running back that is as talented as anybody in the league.”
    – Giants’ HC Ben McAdoo

    On his impressions of QB Jared Goff:
    “Yeah, I think that a young quarterback there I think his 15th start. He seems to be gaining confidence. He’s definitely a young quarterback that has a lot of tools and has some good rhythm in his body. The system seems to fit his skillset. He’s very comfortable dealing with the ball, whether it’s under center or in the gun. He’s come a long way in a short time in this league under center. He spent a lot of time in the gun, but he’s got some nice weapons to distribute the ball to – that helps, some guys that he’s building chemistry with that obviously are some players that have some football smarts to them.”

    – Giants’ HC Ben McAdoo

    On what challenges the Rams present defensively:

    “They have a great team, a good front seven, a lot of speed and their corners play well. They do a good job of getting to the quarterback, a good job stopping the run. So we have to be sound up front, know our assignments because they got some good players and we have to win on time in our receivers. They play a good bit of man so that gives you some opportunities to make some plays.”

    – Giants’ Quarterback Eli Manning

    On what challenges the Rams present offensively:

    “They’re fast and explosive. They definitely rely on Gurley and that’s big. We definitely have to stop him and if we stop him, we have a chance.”

    – Giants’ Safety Landon Collins

    “They have a great running game. Gurley, he’s been having a great year and one thing we have to do is just stop the run. We can’t stop the run, then it’s going to be a long day for us. So we know the jobs we have to do as far as our unit to help us get this W.”

    – Giants’ Defensive end Olivier Vernon

    On how similar the Rams offense looks to the Redskins offenses from the past few seasons:
    “I think there are a lot of similarities there. They do some outside zone, they do a lot of window dressing with the receivers as far as the old fly-sweep stuff, the reverses, the fake reverses. You’ll see a little bit of the Shanahan system in there as well with their shots down the field, how they like to tie the spacing concepts into their shots down the field as well as some of the Gruden type stuff.”

    – Giants’ HC Ben McAdoo

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    Fwiw. Rams played the McAdoo Giants last year in London. That was the infamous game where the Rams were driving on them to tie with 50 seconds left but Brian Quick ran the wrong route and Keenum through to where he was supposed to be in the endzone for an easy INT. So they almost had an overtime London game.

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    Giants end bye week in search of any hopeful sign amid disaster

    Paul Schwartz

    http://nypost.com/2017/10/30/giants-end-bye-week-in-search-of-any-hopeful-sign-amid-disaster/

    When asked what he planned to be doing during the bye week, running back Shane Vereen offered a quick response: “Not thinking about football,” he said.

    Smart guy.

    The less thought about the pre-bye work of the Giants, the better. They lost six of their seven games, and only the Browns and 49ers were worse. Those two other teams, both winless, were supposed to be as rotten as they are. The Giants? Big, big things were anticipated. An NFC East title was certainly part of the discussion, and at the very least, this was a team viewed as worthy of serious playoff contention.

    Not this.

    All the hopes and dreams of the Giants are gone, and it is not even Halloween. It has been all tricks, no treats for Ben McAdoo’s team. The Giants head into their final nine games depleted and defeated, without Odell Beckham Jr. and Brandon Marshall, sucking the life out of their offense. This dreadful downturn cannot be blamed on injuries, though, as the Giants were 0-4 and on the way to 0-5 when Beckham, Marshall and Dwayne Harris were lost for the season and Sterling Shepard went down with a sprained ankle in the loss to the previously winless Chargers, four receivers lost on a day of infamy in franchise history.

    There is negativity in every corner of the Giants room.

    “It’s even more important — don’t let the outside world affect what we’re doing,” Eli Manning said. “Now it’s about us playing for each other.”

    It sure is not about playing for any tangible reward — other than an extremely high pick in the 2018 draft.

    “I would say at some point it’s got to come down to pride,” Vereen said. “It’s got to come down to, ‘I’m a man, I’m with other men on this team, we’re a band of brothers and each week we’re going to go fight, we’re going to play as hard as we can.’ The outcomes definitely haven’t been what we wanted them to be. We all know that. We’re still going to go out every Sunday after this bye week and fight and fight. We got nine games left and we’re going to try to play the best Giants football we can.”

    Pre-bye highlights (few) and lowlights (many):

    Seven-game MVP: Not many great candidates here. Justin Pugh started the season as the left guard until injuries on the line prompted the move to right tackle. The move to the outside has increased Pugh’s value, and he can be viewed as the long-term right tackle, which is not a bad deal, as tackles in free agency make more money than guards.

    Seven-game LVP (Least Valuable Person): Brandon Marshall was a candidate for this before he got hurt and Paul Perkins was in the mix before he banged up his ribs. Punter Brad Wing has been uncharacteristically inconsistent. Let’s go with the head coach. Ben McAdoo did not have his team ready to roll at the start of the season and should have given up the play-calling duties after the first two offensive stinkers.

    Least surprising surprise: General manager Jerry Reese opted to keep the 2016 offensive line intact, leaning on what he believed would be significant development in the two 23-year old tackles, Ereck Flowers and Bobby Hart. This plan was not embraced by fans and it turned out to be folly. The offensive line has been sub-standard, Hart got benched and Flowers’ improvement has been so sluggish that it seems obvious he will never live up to his lofty draft status.

    Best surprise: Evan Engram is a first-round pick, and the initial expectation for him was to be an immediate factor as a pass-catcher. He has exceeded that expectation and is also a willing blocker, although that is not his forte. It looks as if Engram has a Pro Bowl in his future, and incredibly, he has already emerged as a respected voice in the locker room, which is rare for a rookie.

    Biggest disappointment: Do we have to pick just one? The offense was anemic before all the injuries hit, and the offensive line has played down to the fears of most fans. This defense was supposed to be rock-solid, though, and it has not been. It is shocking the Giants are ranked 27th in the NFL — 23rd against the run, 27th against the pass — and blew three fourth-quarter leads.

    Best moment: The Giants were ahead 10-3 in Denver, but the Broncos had the ball and plenty of time to cut into the deficit before halftime. That is when Janoris Jenkins lived up to his Jackrabbit moniker by anticipating a Trevor Siemian pass for an interception he returned 43 yards for a touchdown. The Giants were ahead 17-3, the Mile High fans were stunned and the Giants were on their way to their first, and only, victory.

    Worst moment: Odell Beckham Jr. missed the season-opener with a high-ankle sprain and was slowed in game No. 2. He finally broke through with his first touchdown catch of the season in Week 3 in Philadelphia and decided to celebrate the feat by getting on all fours and raising his right leg, mimicking a urinating dog. Beckham was hit with a penalty, and the vulgar celebration drew the ire of co-owner John Mara, who had Beckham in for a private chat about it.

    Most revealing stat: Here’s three for the price of one: The Giants are tied for 30th in the league in first downs per game (16.6), 30th in third-down efficiency (32.6 percent) and 30th in scoring (16 points a game). Get the feeling the Giants are lousy on offense?

    Longest list: Remember back to the good-old days of 2016, when it appeared the Giants had finally solved their injury hex? Well, it’s baaaaack. The Giants have 14 players on injured reserve — the league average is 10.6 — and notably with Beckham and Marshall out for the season.

    Upcoming decision: When does the time come to tell Eli Manning he must give up playing time in order to give the coaching staff and front office a look at Davis Webb? If the Giants are sitting at 3-10, Webb has to get some snaps in the final three games. Manning can continue to start (he’s made 206 straight), but at some point, McAdoo must tell the franchise quarterback to give the ball to Webb.

    Upcoming decision, part II: Weston Richburg missed the past three games in the concussion protocol. When he is ready to return, does he immediately slide back in as the starting center, no questions asked? Brett Jones filled in admirably, and there are whispers around the Giants that Jones may not get pushed aside for Richburg, who was not playing great before he went out.

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    Rams riding the road to best start since ’03, face Giants

    http://pro32.ap.org/article/rams-riding-road-best-start-03-face-giants

    FILE – In this Sept. 21, 2017, file photo, Los Angeles Rams quarterback Jared Goff (16) passes against the San Francisco 49ers during the first half of an NFL football game in Santa Clara, Calif. The Rams (5-2) are this year’s road warriors heading into Sunday’s game at MetLife Stadium against the self-destructing and disappointing New York Giants (1-6). (AP Photo/Ben Margot, File)
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    FILE – In this Oct. 15, 2017, file photo, New York Giants strong safety Landon Collins (21) reacts after intercepting a pass during the first half of an NFL football game against the Denver Broncos Denver. The Giants host the Los Angeles Rams on Sunday. (AP Photo/Joe Mahoney, File)
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    EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. (AP) — The Los Angeles Rams have been one of the NFL’s biggest surprises this season — and it’s how they’re doing it that has been most impressive.

    The Rams (5-2) are this year’s road warriors heading into Sunday’s game at MetLife Stadium against the self-destructing and disappointing New York Giants (1-6).

    Sean McVay’s club is 4-0 away from the Los Angeles Coliseum, with the last victory coming in a 33-0 win over the Arizona Cardinals in a “home” game in London.

    “I think we enjoy playing on the road,” quarterback Jared Goff said. “I don’t know why or what it is, but that ‘yourself against the world, we’re all we got, we’re all we need’ type of thing is part of our mantra and brings us together. We’ve played well on the road, so we enjoy it. It’s definitely not a disadvantage for us, we don’t think.”

    The Coliseum hasn’t been good to Rams, who have won four of their last five games in getting off to their best start since 2003. They are 1-2 at home, with the only loss in that run being at home to Seattle.

    The Seattle game was played on Oct. 8, and the Rams will not play there again until facing Houston on Nov 12, a 34-day span.

    It has not made a difference for the Rams, who are looking to end a run of 10 straight losing seasons and earn their first playoff berth since 2004.

    “That’s so far from where we’re at right now,” the 31-year-old McVay said. “We’ve still got nine games left, for sure, and right now, we’re focused on our eighth game and that’s really all there is to it for us.”

    In many ways, the Rams are similar to the Giants last season under then-new coach Ben McAdoo. New York just found ways to win the close ones, including a 17-10 over the Rams in London in a game where Los Angeles held a huge margin in the statistics. The problem was Case Keenum had four passes intercepted.

    McAdoo’s team is losing the close ones this season and the frustration is mounting.

    New York will be without top cornerback Janoris Jenkins this weekend. He was suspended indefinitely after missing a workout Monday without calling the coaches to explain his absence. It’s the team’s second suspension in less than a month. Cornerback Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie also was suspended for a violation of team rules.

    “We’re going to be still competitive,” said safety Landon Collins, who had a spectacular, weaving 44-yard interception return for a touchdown in last year’s game. “I’ll speak for the defensive side. We’re going to be definitely competitive because we’re all trying to eat out there. We’re all still trying to be gritty even if it’s individual in bringing what we need to bring to the field. We’re still trying to do that and just be a great team overall.”

    Here’s five things to watch on Sunday as both teams come off a bye week:

    GETTING HEALTHY?: The Giants thought they would be getting some players back after the bye week. It might not happen.

    Center Weston Richburg (concussion) probably won’t be back. Offensive tackle Justin Pugh continues to be bothered by a back problem, and defensive end Olivier Vernon has missed the last three games with an ankle injury. Wide receiver Sterling Shepard (ankle) could return and give Eli Manning another target.

    MY KINGDOM FOR WHITWORTH: The Giants went into the offseason needing help at offensive tackle. They thought 35-year-old Andrew Whitworth was too old. He signed with the Rams and has been a star at left tackle on their revamped O-Line.

    “He’s been outstanding,” McVay said. “He’s influencing and affecting his teammates in a positive way, really from day one, since he got in here.”

    Los Angeles is No. 6 running the ball. The Giants are No. 27.

    REPLACING JACKRABBIT: With Jenkins suspended, either Ross Cockrell or Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie probably will start. Eli Apple will be on the other side.

    It would have been DRC had he not been suspended for the Denver game. However, his time has been limited since he came back. One thing in his favor: Rodgers-Cromartie had two interceptions in last year’s game against the Rams.

    GURLEY GOING: Rams running back Todd Gurley is working on a career year.

    After dropping off in his second season, Gurley has rushed for 627 yards and five touchdowns and caught 27 passes for 293 yards and three TDs. He is third in NFL with 920 yards from scrimmage; and shares the NFL lead with eight TDs from scrimmage. Gurley has three straight 100-yard rushing games on road.

    GIANTS CONNECTIONS: McVay and Rams special teams coordinator John Fassel have connections to former Giants head coaches.

    McVay is the grandson of John McVay, who coached the Giants from 1976-78. Fassel is the son of Jim Fassel, who coached the Giants from 1997-2003, taking them to the Super Bowl in January 2001. Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo coached the Rams — then in St. Louis — from 2009-11.

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