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  • April 30, 2022 at 4:35 pm #138606
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    Quentin Lake S, UCLA
    Height: 6-1, Weight: 201

    Draft Scouting Report:

    Rating: 69.67 (Role player)

    Pro Comparison: Damar Hamlin

    Strengths:

    Great leader and communicator. Great burst. Good ball production over the last two years. Not afraid to stick his nose into a pile and make a tackle. Does a good job of sorting through trash. Fluid motion.

    Weaknesses:

    Average top end speed. Struggles coming to balance in space and that can lead to missed tackles. First step towards play is usually wrong and does not have the recovery speed to get back into the play.

    Accolades:

    2021: Team leader in passes defensed and tied for team lead in interceptions
    35 career games played

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    April 30, 2022 at 5:01 pm #138612
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    Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
    The Rams are picking UCLA safety Quentin Lake at 211. Good match right there in Rams’ defensive scheme and a versatile player.

    Tony Pauline@TonyPauline
    I’ve got nothing but love for the Quentin Lake pick. He’s not the fastest safety but an incredible football player with great instincts and ball skills.

    April 30, 2022 at 5:30 pm #138619
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    Quentin Lake – S/CB – UCLA – 6′-1″ 200 lbs. – he played all over in UCLAs defense. split, nickel CB and box safety. He impressed me at the Shrine game.

    Pros:
    A team leader
    heady smart player
    scheme versatility
    Decent athlete
    OK speed
    willing tackler in run support
    ideal size for the position
    competitor

    Cons:
    Not a thumper in run support
    Not the easiest mover in coverage
    speed could give him an issue

    He looks like a Nick Scott type, where you just cannot quantify football IQ, competitive spirit and leadership. He is a bonus for STs as well. Solid pick.

    April 30, 2022 at 5:38 pm #138621
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    April 30, 2022 at 5:41 pm #138622
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    so i’m gathering from all this that the rams are pretty comfortable with their depth at edge rusher?

     

    robinson and enagbare were there for the taking in the fifth.

     

    also.  does this mean that honey badger is not play?

    May 2, 2022 at 12:39 pm #138714
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    Snead’s Snacks: Who Could the Rams Target at Safety in the NFL Draft?

    Snead’s Snacks: Who Could the Rams Target at Safety in the NFL Draft?
    by Blaine Grisak April 27, 2022

    The Los Angeles Rams enter a crucial year when it comes to the NFL draft. With limited cap space (and limited draft capital for that matter), it’s going to be more important than ever to build depth through the draft and than means hitting on the majority of their picks.

    Every year I do a series called “Snead’s Snacks”. In other words, we’re going to find and look at common themes and traits of previous Les Snead draft picks and see which players in the upcoming NFL Draft fit the mold for the Rams. The focus for today’s edition of “Snead’s Snacks” will be on one of the Rams’ biggest positions of need, the safety position. Last season we correctly predicted Ernest Jones and Robert Rochell as fits for the Rams.

    The Rams are pretty thin at safety and both Taylor Rapp and Nick Scott hit free agency next offseason. With that said, the Rams will need to load up on the position in the draft.

    *Editor’s Note: Numbers taken from RAS and Mockdraftable

    Notable Past Rams Drafted Players
    Terrell Burgess, S, Utah – 3rd Round
    Measurables:
    Height: 5’11 (19th percentile)
    Weight: 202-lbs (29th percentile)
    Arm Length: 29.5” (2nd percentile)
    Wingspan: 71.375”
    Shuttle: N/A
    Broad Jump: 122”
    3-cone: N/A
    40-yard dash: 4.46 sec (84th percentile)
    Vertical: 33.5”

    Size Grade: Okay
    Speed Grade: Great
    Agility Grade: N/A
    Explosive Grade: Okay
    RAS: 8.11 – Great

    Traits:

    Smart player who reads the field. Takes good angles and tackles well.
    Versatile
    Special teams experience
    Athletic, good change of direction
    Overview of Pick

    Terrell Burgess was lauded coming out of Utah. However, he’s been more of a disappointment thus far with the Rams. Despite being thin at the position last season, Burgess didn’t see much of the field. He’ll look to get better this offseason.

    Jordan Fuller, S, Ohio State – 6th Round
    Measurables:
    Height: 6’2 (86th percentile)
    Weight: 203-lbs (33rd percentile)
    Arm Length: 31” (27th percentile)
    Wingspan: 76.125”
    Shuttle: 4.27 sec
    Broad Jump: 122” (60th percentile)
    3-cone: N/A
    40-yard dash: 4.67 (14th percentile)
    Vertical: 35.5” (50th percentile)

    Size Grade: Good
    Speed Grade: Poor
    Agility Grade: N/A
    Explosive Grade: Good
    RAS: 5.54 – Good

    Traits:

    Strong leadership
    Takes good angles
    Downhill consistent tackler
    Can cover tight ends
    Overview of Pick

    Jordan Fuller had a strong rookie season followed by a bit of a sophomore slump. Fuller was nominated as a captain last season and was assigned the green dot.

    Taylor Rapp, S, Washington – 2nd Round
    Measurables:
    Height: 5’11 (29th percentile)
    Weight: 208-lbs (55th percentile)
    Wingspan: 72.875 (11th percentile)
    Arm Length: 30.75” (20th percentile)
    Shuttle: 3.99 (93rd percentile)
    Broad Jump: 115” (15th percentile)
    3-cone: 6.82 sec (80th percentile)
    40-yard dash: 4.78 sec
    Vertical: 35” (42nd percentile)

    Size Grade: Okay
    Speed Grade: Poor
    Agility Grade: Elite
    Explosive Grade: Okay
    RAS: 5.66 – Good

    Traits:

    Versatile
    Top notch football intelligence
    Takes good angles and proficient tackler
    Played special teams
    Can cover tight ends
    Overview of Pick

    Taylor Rapp has had an up and down career. For every good play he makes, it seems like there’s a negative play to follow. He excels in the box, but has struggled in coverage.

    Nick Scott, S, Penn State – 7th Round
    Measurables:
    Height: 5’10
    Weight: 200-lbs
    Arm Length: 31”
    Wingspan: 76”
    Shuttle: 4.2 sec
    Broad Jump: 128”
    3-cone: 7.02 sec
    40-yard dash: 4.45 sec
    Vertical: 41”

    Size Grade: Poor
    Speed Grade: Elite
    Agility Grade: Good
    Explosive Grade: Elite
    RAS: 9.22 – Great

    Traits:

    Two-time captain
    Size to cover tight ends
    Special teams ace
    Strong tackler
    Overview of Pick

    John Johnson III, S, Boston College – 4th Round
    Measurables:
    Height: 6’0 (33rd percentile)
    Weight: 208-lbs (55th percentile)
    Arm Length: 32” (63rd percentile)
    Wingspan: 76.875
    Shuttle: 4.18 sec (57th percentile)
    Broad Jump: 119” (38th percentile)
    3-cone: 6.72 sec (88th percentile)
    40-yard dash: 4.61 sec (34th percentile)
    Vertical: 37” (71st percentile)

    Size Grade: Good
    Speed Grade: Okay
    Agility Grade: Great
    Explosive Grade: Good
    RAS: 7.93 – Good

    Traits:

    Versatile
    Special teams monster
    Downhill tackler
    Overview of Pick

    John Johnson III was a steal as a fourth round pick. He became a staple on the Rams defense and there’s no doubt that they missed him at times last season. He’ll be most remembered for his interception on Drew Brees to send the Rams to the Super Bowl.

    Lamarcus Joyner, S, Florida State – 2nd Round
    Measurables:
    Height: 5’8 (1st percentile)
    Weight: 184-lbs (16th percentile)
    Arm Length: 31.5 (54th percentile)
    Wingspan: 75.5”
    Shuttle: 4.4 (7th percentile)
    Broad Jump: 124” (65th percentile)
    3-cone: 7.26 (6th percentile)
    40-yard dash: 4.55 (28th percentile)
    Vertical: 37.5 (70th percentile)

    Size Grade: Very Poor
    Speed Grade: Good
    Agility Grade: Very Poor
    Explosive Grade: Great
    RAS: 2.98 – Very Poor

    Traits:

    Versatile
    Special teams contributor
    Leadership traits
    Physical style of play and downhill tackler
    Overview of Pick

    Lamarcus Joyner started as a cornerback but worked his way to safety with the Los Angeles Rams. He was the last player that the Rams used the franchise tag on and was an overall solid player before leaving in free agency.

    Common Traits Rams Look For
    The safety position is tough as there simply just aren’t very many. With only six players it’s tough to get consistent similarities.
    Size doesn’t seem to be a huge factor as all but Joyner were around 5’11. Johnson III was the tallest at 6’2. Wingspan could be something to keep an eye on. Four of the six players had wingspans greater than 75 inches.
    The Rams like their safeties to be able to tackle, take good angles, and have leadership traits. Special teams experience is also a plus.
    Many of the safeties didn’t test in the 3-cone, but of the four that did, two were in the 80th percentile or higher and three of four had good to elite agility RAS scores.

    2022 Players Who Fit the Rams

    S Quentin Lake – UCLA
    Quentin Lake would almost be a perfect fit for the Rams. He’s a versatile piece on defense and has the football intelligence and leadership. He’s a solid tackler as well and will contribute on special teams immediately. The Rams like ball skills in their cornerbacks and Lake has shown that. He compares very favorably to Jordan Fuller who the Rams drafted in the sixth round two years ago. I would not be surprised if the Rams do end up with Lake.

    Draft Grade: 5th-6th Round

    S Leon O’Neal Jr. – Texas A&M
    With a wingspan of 76.625 inches and fitting their size threshold of 6’0, O’Neal would be another great fit for the Rams. He shows good agility with a 6.89 in the 3-cone which lands in the 70th percentile. At Texas A&M, he showed versatility at both strong and free safety and was an exceptional tackler. He should contribute on special teams right away.

    Draft Grade: 6th Round

    S Elijah Hicks – Cal
    Elijah Hicks is a very underrated safety prosecute who could be someone that the Rams bring in as an undrafted free agent. This is a player with a lot of experience and shows good versatility. Additionally, he’s a good tackler, very smart player, and reacts well in coverage. Hicks is someone that could be a special teams contributor early and then hopefully develop into a depth player.

    Draft Grade: UDFA

    Honorable Mentions
    S Dane Belton – Iowa
    Ability to cover tight ends.
    Efficient downhill tackler.
    Special teams contributor.
    S Nick Cross – Maryland
    Could go sooner than 104
    Good size to cover tight ends
    Solid tackler in space and could contribute on special teams.

    May 5, 2022 at 7:34 pm #138774
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    4 things to know about new Rams S Quentin Lake

    Cameron DaSilva

    * https://theramswire.usatoday.com/lists/rams-nfl-draft-quentin-lake-facts-stats/

    Safety was a position the Rams prioritized in the NFL draft this year, seeking to add depth to a group that was decimated by injuries late last year – to the point where Eric Weddle had to come out of retirement in the playoffs.

    In the sixth round, the Rams selected Quentin Lake out of UCLA, a player who reminds many of Jordan Fuller. He still has a lot to prove in the NFL, but he could wind up being a steal like Fuller was.

    Here are four things to know about Lake.

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    His dad was an All-Pro and DBs coach with Steelers
    Lake comes from NFL bloodlines. His dad, Carnell Lake, was an All-Pro defensive back with the Steelers, making the Pro Bowl five times during his playing career. He was also selected to the All-1990s team, finishing his career as one of the best DBs of his time.

    Lake then went on to coach with the Steelers after his playing days were over. He was Pittsburgh’s defensive backs coach from 2011-2017 and currently coaches the DBs for the USFL’s Tampa Bay Bandits.

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    He’s from Pittsburgh but grew up in Irvine
    Lake was born in Pittsburgh, just before his father left the Steelers to join the Jaguars for the 1999 season. He grew up in Irvine, Calif., however, and attended Mater Dei High School. There, he was teammates with Amon-Ra St. Brown , lettering in both football and track.

    Coming out of high school, Lake was a three-star recruit as a cornerback and picked UCLA over the likes of USC, Oregon State and Pittsburgh. Part of the reason he picked UCLA is his dad was a Bruin before reaching the NFL, too.

    So although he was born in Pittsburgh, most of his life was spent in SoCal.

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    Already earned a degree in Sociology and is enrolled in a grad program
    Lake spent five years at UCLA after redshirting his first season, so he gained plenty of experience during his time in college. He put in a lot of work in the classroom, too, graduating with a degree in Sociology and enrolling in the Transformative Coaching and Leadership graduate program.

    During his time at UCLA, he was selected to the Athletic Director’s Academic Honor Roll 11 times, as well as the Pac-12 Fall Academic Honor Roll last year.

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    He was second-team All-Pac-12 in 2021
    Lake finished his college career on a high note, picking off three passes and breaking up nine throws, both of which tied for the team lead. He made 54 tackles and had two sacks, too, doing it all for UCLA.

    He was named second-team All-Pac-12 last season, also being highlighted on PFF’s All-Pac-12 second-team. He was productive throughout his time with the Bruins, but he was better than ever in 2021.

    May 6, 2022 at 5:11 pm #138791
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    Four year starter, Irvine, CA. First-team All-PAC 12 in 2021. Son of former UCLA and All-Pro NFL defensive back Carnell Lake. Played in a multiple coverage scheme putting him at one and two high along with playing the box strong safety in Cover three. Best suited as quarter or off the hash Cover two safety. Good football IQ. He has vision to process route combinations and balance multiple threats. Has decent ball skills and reacts well on the throw. Locates the ball and battles at the catch point. Has soft hands for interception opportunities. Can match tight ends in quarters and is solid reacting to flat/post and dig combinations. Can get to the same level as a wide receiver coming over the middle.  When close to the line or in the alley usually squares up, wraps up and drags the ball carrier. Has some trouble with angles moving downhill from distance and can lose a tackle in the alley or perimeter. Occasionally loses leverage and misses a tackle. Reaction can be slow in quarters creating too much space for runners laterally. Lacks the range to consistently play one high. Lacks elite athletic ability and physicality, but does most things well enough as to not be a liability. Has played special teams and could find a home as a backup and special teams player. 2021 stats: 54 T, 2 TFL, 6 PBU, 1 QBH, 3 INT. OSR: 16/16. Sixth/seventh round. (A-31 1/4, H – 9 1/8, VJ – DNP, SS – DNP)

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