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    zn
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    The NFL’s prototypical defensive linemen for each DL technique

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-the-nfls-prototypical-defensive-linemen-for-each-dl-technique

    In 2011, I first wrote about the league’s prototypes for each defensive line technique. In addition to watching and grading every player on every snap of the NFL season, PFF also records far more detailed information that our team customers get access to and use as part of their internal processes. One data point they get is the exact alignment of every defensive linemen – by technique – as opposed to simply a rough description of where a player lined up by position.

    The league has changed since then and positions along defensive fronts have become ever more blurred as defenses look to be more multiple and better suited to defend the changing offensive formations they are faced with each week.

    The defensive line technique numbering system has been around for years, and while there are a couple of variants of this system, particularly on the outer edges of it, the system we will be using is below as a reference.

    Defensive line technique chart

    The numbering begins from being head-up over the center and works its way outward in either direction. Each shade along the way will receive its own number, or contain an ‘i’ modifier (inside). Moving across the front you will see that even numbers are head-up alignments, odd numbers represent outside shades and those containing an ‘i’ represent those inside-shaded alignments.

    For these prototypes, I have not necessarily presented the best player that could represent each position, but rather the one that has the best blend of ability and prototypical physical traits, as well as the actual deployment on the field to justify it. Von Miller is likely the best pure edge rusher in football, but and could easily feature on this list, but has been bumped for another who represents a slightly purer prototype for the position, and the same is true of other players that could easily occupy some of these spots. The league has more than one prototype currently excelling at some spots.

    With all that said, here are your prototypes for each of the main defensive line techniques in 2018:

    Damon Harrison

    0-TECHNIQUE (3-4 NT) – DAMON HARRISON
    The 0-technique is a dying position, to the point that it’s not easy finding a true prototype that actually plays that alignment very often. The 0-technique, also called the nose tackle, plays directly over the center (or on the nose). In a traditional 3-4 defense, they are responsible for defending both gaps either side of the center (A-gaps) by themselves, freeing up linebackers behind them to be able to attack and clogging the middle of the line against the run.

    That two-gap job involved controlling the center while also often drawing a double team from one of the guards and still being able to make a play in either A-gap. That is why these players were typically the heaviest players in the NFL, using their sheer size and strength to become immovable objects in the middle of the line.

    In recent years though, the league has trended away from two-gap concepts on defense, and even players that line up in the 0-technique often only defend one of the A-gaps, shooting one side of the center after the snap and leaving a linebacker to fill the other behind them.

    Harrison actually played with a 0-technique alignment on just 8.0 percent of his snaps in 2017, but we have seen from him before when he was with the New York Jets just how dominant he can be in that spot. The NFL as a whole rarely employs a player in this technique at all any more. On almost 40,000 plays in the regular season in 2017, defenses had somebody occupying the 0-tech alignment on just 11.1 percent of them, and Harrison represents a far better player than somebody like Steelers NT Javon Hargrave, who lined up there on 37.7 percent of his snaps but could only translate that into an overall PFF grade of 78.8 last season.

    Harrison is the best run-stuffing force in football and has led all interior linemen in run-stop percentage for five straight years. The league may be trending away from this alignment, but it can still serve as a useful pivot point for disguising defensive fronts before the nose tackle attacks one gap post-snap.

    Alternative prototypes: Alan Branch, Javon Hargrave

    Linval Joseph

    1-TECHNIQUE (4-3 NT) – LINVAL JOSEPH
    The 1-technique is also referred to the nose tackle, but more often in a four-man front. He is very similar to the 0-technique in that they both play over the center, but the defining difference between the two is that the 1-tech shades one side of the center and is usually responsible for only one gap, not both A-gaps. They are still expected to eat double teams from the center and a guard, which frees up others on the line to take advantage of one on one matchups.

    In the past, this spot has been primarily a run-stuffing force, but with the league trending ever-more pass heavy, 1-technique defensive tackles have to be able to bring something when it comes to pass rush or be replaced on third downs. Harrison – our 0-tech prototype – could also easily be the prototype for this alignment, as it’s where he finds himself most often for the Giants. He was at that alignment on 60.1 percent of his snaps in 2017 compared to just 8.0 percent at 0-tech, but listing him as the 0-tech prototype allows us to throw some love in the direction of Minnesota’s Joseph, who does bring more as a pass rusher than Harrison.

    Like Harrison, Joseph is a force against the run, with an 89.0 PFF grade in that facet of the game last year, but he also notched 30 total pressures and was on the field for 414 pass-rushing snaps over the season, almost 100 more than Harrison.

    Alternative prototypes: Damon Harrison, Brandon Williams

    Aaron Donald

    3-TECHNIQUE (4-3 PASS-RUSH/UNDER TACKLE) – AARON DONALD
    Arguably the most well-known alignment to the common fan is the 3-technique. They are the premier interior pass-rusher in every modern NFL defense, whether that team plays with a three- or four-man line in their base defense. With the league focusing more on the pass, sub-packages have become far more prevalent than base defense, and every sub package features a heavy dose of 3-tech alignment, though those primary pass-rushers inside will play directly in the B-gap as well as the other side of it in a 4i alignment as well. The goal of this movement is to generate a one-on-one situation with an offensive lineman, whether that be the guard or tackle and to attack the B-gap.

    The 3-tech is a penetrating lineman who shoots the B-gap more often than anything else and tries to play in the backfield whether against the run or the pass. Teams are more and more employing their most athletic interior players and even edge rushers in this alignment on passing downs regardless of where they typically get deployed on base downs.

    Aaron Donald has become the league’s most devastating interior pass-rusher. He led the league in total pressures in 2017 with 91 despite missing two games, dominating even edge rushers in pressure generated. His quickness and ability to shoot upfield has helped to change how much stock teams place on size at the position and he uses that to play the run as well as the pass exceptionally well.

    Alternative prototypes: Geno Atkins, Calais Campbell, Gerald McCoy

    DeForest Buckner

    4-5-TECHNIQUE (3-4 DE) – DEFOREST BUCKNER
    3-4 defensive ends used to be two-gapping complements to the 0-tech nose tackle within defenses, but that style of defense has largely gone by the wayside, and the only thing that differentiates these players from true 3-tech interior pass-rushers is that they have to ply their trade a little more against tackles because of lining up a little further out from center.

    J.J. Watt has been the prototype here for several years, but there are so many injury question marks with him it’s time to look elsewhere at least for a season. Watt’s length, speed, and quickness as a pass-rusher as well as his ability to penetrate and play the game in the backfield make him a perfect weapon to combat the additional length offensive tackles typically bring to the table over interior linemen.

    Buckner is another player with that additional length, and as if to highlight the crossover between this position and the 3-technique, Buckner played 85.6 percent of his snaps somewhere between the guard and tackle either at 3-technique, in the B-gap or in a 4i alignment.

    Alternative prototypes: J.J. Watt, Cameron Heyward, Calais Campbell

    Khalil Mack

    6-7-TECHNIQUE (4-3 DE, 3-4 OLB POWER-EDGE) – KHALIL MACK
    In the past, the best edge rusher a defense had came from the quarterback’s blindside, the right side of the defense to take advantage of the fact the quarterback couldn’t see him coming. He went one on one with the left tackle – the best pass-blocker an offense had – and was typically the primary source of pass-rush a defense had. The other side usually featured a more power-centric end, or “closed end.” This player often had to deal with tight ends and was considered the edge setter in the run game while the other end could pin his ears back more and get after the quarterback.

    With offenses becoming more pass-focused, the left side of the defensive line is now home to some of the game’s premier pass-rushers as well, and all edge defenders need to be top quality pass-rushers, but players that can set a hard edge in the run game and play with power can still elevate themselves.

    Mack may not be the biggest edge defender in the league, but he is one of the most powerful, and hasn’t had a PFF run-defense grade lower than 91.4 over his NFL career. Mack consistently destroys tight ends in the run game and can collapse the run in on itself from the front side of the play with his strength. As a pass-rusher he more than holds his own, and has notched 313 total pressures over four seasons of NFL play.

    Alternative prototypes: Cameron Jordan, Terrell Suggs

    Cameron Wake

    9-TECHNIQUE (4-3 DE, 3-4 OLB SPEED-EDGE) – CAMERON WAKE
    The 9-technique is primarily a pass-rush specialist and it temporarily came to fame with the defenses Jim Schwartz ran that employed a “wide-9” alignment from their defensive ends a lot. Those players lined up far outside the offensive tackle and relied on pure speed to beat their blocker around the corner and get pressure on the quarterback.

    These players can use their first step to really challenge the movement skills of the pass-blockers assigned to stop them, and often force them to overcommit to the outside speed rush before making a move back inside or underneath into the space they just opened up. Von Miller is probably the best pure pass-rusher in the league and could easily be the prototype for this alignment (he was last season), but a better pure embodiment of the characteristics may come from Wake. Miami’s pass-rushing phenom just consistently generates pressure due to his first step and ability to bend the edge outside. He racked up 62 pressures last season from under 400 pass-rushing snaps, and throughout his career has consistently notched pressure at a rate of around once every six pass rushing snaps, which is an elite level in any single season. Wake seems ageless and though his role has been dialed back a little in Miami, he remains a consistent source of speed pressure.

    Alternative prototypes: Von Miller, Melvin Ingram, Jerry Hughes

    #87378
    Billy_T
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    The game has changed so much. It’s tough to keep up with the terminology, or the prototypes.

    Remember when “the Hogs” were considered massive and an aberration because of their size?

    Their center, Jeff Bostic, was 250 pounds, and if memory serves, Joe Jacoby was their biggest guy, at roughly 295.

    On defense, Deacon Jones played most of his career at 250, as a 4/3 end. He’d be a prototypical 3/4 edge rusher today, most likely — solving the Rams’ loss of Fox. Jack Youngblood played at 250 as well, in a slightly later era. But I don’t think he would have been as effective having to cover receivers as Jones, but probably could have handled TEs just fine.

    Merlin was considered a monster at 275. Where would he play? 3/4 run-setting end?

    Aaron Donald is a throwback at 280, of course — if that’s his actual weight, which it’s likely not. I can see why he slid a bit in the draft. Too short, too light, but he’s perhaps the best defensive player in the league, and can do things no other linemen can do, via the craziest combo of strength and quickness in the game. I doubt that any computer programmer, shooting for the perfect defensive lineman, would give us an Aaron Donald before he had actually played an NFL down.

    PFF’s discussion of the old-school nose makes me think of Wolfork of the Pats. I can’t think of a guy more difficult to move. Perhaps Ngata at his peak?

    #87379
    zn
    Moderator

    I doubt that any computer programmer, shooting for the perfect defensive lineman, would give us an Aaron Donald before he had actually played an NFL down.

    I one of the many who believe that the combination of Donald, Suh, and Brockers is going to be a joy to watch.

    I know everyone thinks that. It’s just fun to anticipate it out loud.

    #87382
    Billy_T
    Participant

    I doubt that any computer programmer, shooting for the perfect defensive lineman, would give us an Aaron Donald before he had actually played an NFL down.

    I one of the many who believe that the combination of Donald, Suh, and Brockers is going to be a joy to watch.

    I know everyone thinks that. It’s just fun to anticipate it out loud.

    Agreed. Lotsa fun for us. Not so much fun for opposing teams. And I’m betting Suh does just fine at the, well, kinda sorta “nose.” He’s not huge for that position, but big enough at roughly 310, and way strong. Mean, too. Meaner than Brockers or Donald. It’s just not going to be much fun for QBs or running backs. If the Rams can find a truly dominant edge guy — which they may have in Obo — there’s just No Exit for the other team.

    Next year’s draft: If it turns out not to be Obo, they should spend an early pick on an edge, and they’ll need a DT to replace Suh. O-line, of course, early as well. Maybe load up with linemen and an edge up through their comp picks. After that, I’d like to see another speed back to complement Gurley. He should compliment him too. Gurley deserves that.

    ;>)

    The Rams are getting closer to that point where they can just go BPA, and that’s an exciting thing for their future.

    Btw, I’m a Stewart fan, but I missed any kind of origin story behind your use of his visage. What is the Marvel myth of beginnings for that?

    #87383
    zn
    Moderator

    What is the Marvel origin story for that?

    Serendipity. Initially I just used any famous old stars pics to convey any number of ideas, just for fun. Then I discovered something I guess we all kind of know unconsciously—that there is not a single emotion or facial expression you can name that Stewart does NOT represent in some kind of quintessential way. You can find a pic of Stewart embodying virtually any mood, feeling, or attitude. He just had an endlessly elastic ability that way. So it just became this signature thing. Like, search: jimmy stewart quietly thinking. (And I never thought of that one till just now so the pic I come up with will be one I have never used.)

    #87384
    Billy_T
    Participant

    What is the Marvel origin story for that?

    Serendipity. Initially I just used any famous old stars pics to convey any number of ideas, just for fun. Then I discovered something I guess we all kind of know unconsciously—that there is not a single emotion or facial expression you can name that Stewart does NOT represent in some kind of quintessential way. You can find a pic of Stewart embodying virtually any mood, feeling, or attitude. He just had an endlessly elastic ability that way. So it just became this signature thing. Like, search: jimmy stewart quietly thinking. (And I never thought of that one till just now so the pic I come up with will be one I have never used.)

    That makes sense. Agree about his emotive abilities. But I would have thought you’d plumb the depths of the Silent Era for that. They couldn’t give voice to their thoughts, moods, emotions, etc. etc. So they had to use their faces.

    Too obscure?

    Then, of course, there’s this picture. Which says it all if the topic is the awesome power of The Secret:

    #87387
    zn
    Moderator

    I would have thought you’d plumb the depths of the Silent Era for that

    Well 2 things. One is, I always see silent era acting as theatrical and stagey. I just prefer the more naturalistic imagery of the golden era of talkies. And, it has to be Jimmy Stewart. To me, JS is the representative classical american movie guy (for many others it’s John Wayne, for me it’s JS). Plus I admire him. While most other actors were getting out of active duty in WW 2, Stewart was insisting on flying bombing missions over Nazi occupied Europe. From the wiki:

    After several weeks of training missions, in which Stewart flew with most of his combat crews, the group flew its first combat mission on December 13, 1943, to bomb the U-boat facilities at Kiel, Germany, followed three days later by a mission to Bremen. Stewart led the high squadron of the group formation on the first mission, and the entire group on the second. Following a mission to Ludwigshafen, Germany, on January 7, 1944, Stewart was promoted to major. Stewart was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross for actions as deputy commander of the 2nd Combat Bombardment Wing on the first day of “Big Week” operations in February and flew two other missions that week.

    On March 22, 1944, Stewart flew his 12th combat mission, leading the 2nd Bomb Wing in an attack on Berlin. On March 30, 1944, he was sent to RAF Old Buckenham to become group operations officer of the 453rd Bombardment Group, a new B-24 unit that had just lost both its commander and operations officer on missions. To inspire the unit, Stewart flew as command pilot in the lead B-24 on several missions deep into Nazi-occupied Europe. As a staff officer, Stewart was assigned to the 453rd “for the duration” and thus not subject to a quota of missions of a combat tour. He nevertheless assigned himself as a combat crewman on the group’s missions until his promotion to lieutenant colonel on June 3 and reassignment on July 1, 1944, to the 2nd Bomb Wing, assigned as executive officer to Brigadier General Edward J. Timberlake. His official tally of mission credits while assigned to the 445th and 453rd Bomb Groups was 20 sorties.
    Stewart continued to go on missions uncredited, flying with the pathfinder squadron of the 389th Bombardment Group, with his two former groups and with groups of the 20th Combat Bomb Wing. He received a second award of the Distinguished Flying Cross for actions in combat and was awarded the French Croix de Guerre. He also was awarded the Air Medal with three oak leaf clusters.

    Stewart was one of the few Americans to ever rise from private to colonel in only four years during the Second World War.

    #87393
    InvaderRam
    Moderator

    If the Rams can find a truly dominant edge guy — which they may have in Obo — there’s just No Exit for the other team.

    i like ogbo. but i like ebukam too. he’s explosive. and he just might surprise this season. i’m hoping he can be that edge guy for the rams.

    #87403
    Billy_T
    Participant

    If the Rams can find a truly dominant edge guy — which they may have in Obo — there’s just No Exit for the other team.

    i like ogbo. but i like ebukam too. he’s explosive. and he just might surprise this season. i’m hoping he can be that edge guy for the rams.

    I had temporarily forgotten about Ekubam. He’s speedy. Did a 4.45 forty before the Draft.

    Both he and Ogbo lack “prototypical” height for the edge, but I bet that put a chip on their shoulders and they’re out to prove it doesn’t matter. Much like Dwight Freeney, among others in the past.

    They probably won’t do this . . . but who knows? Phillips could use Ogbo and Ekubam, left and right as rushers. Pincer action, with Suh and Donald crushing the mid-section of the offense. I’m also high on Kiser. I think he’ll end up being one of their middle backers before the season is over.

    #87404
    Billy_T
    Participant

    I would have thought you’d plumb the depths of the Silent Era for that

    Well 2 things. One is, I always see silent era acting as theatrical and stagey. I just prefer the more naturalistic imagery of the golden era of talkies. And, it has to be Jimmy Stewart. To me, JS is the representative classical american movie guy (for many others it’s John Wayne, for me it’s JS). Plus I admire him. While most other actors were getting out of active duty in WW 2, Stewart was insisting on flying bombing missions over Nazi occupied Europe. From the wiki:

    Tried to do some quick duckduckgo on actors who served, but it’s not easy to get a definitive or even helpful list. Main reason? They typically don’t tell you if they actually fought overseas, with some exceptions. Stewart is one of them. Some actors signed up but stayed here. But without access to individual biography, it’s tough to know if they did their best to get overseas but couldn’t, or if they avoided it at all costs.

    Anyway . . . yeah, on the silent films: Too many actors did chew the scenery a bit in that era, especially with their eyes. But some of the films are just amazing to me. Dreyer’s (1928) “The Passion of Joan of Arc,” especially. It has amazing music too, and the great French poet, Antonin Artaud.

    • This reply was modified 6 years, 3 months ago by Billy_T.
    #87407
    zn
    Moderator

    While most other actors were getting out of active duty in WW 2, Stewart was insisting on flying bombing missions over Nazi occupied Europe.

    Tried to do some quick duckduckgo on actors who served, but it’s not easy to get a definitive or even helpful list.

    Well a lot of recognizable screen actors did fight. In Stewart’s case, there was an active push to keep him doing the PR work back in the states. He was already a big name at that point, in fact an academy award winner, and therefore a studio commodity (It Happened One Night = 1934, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington = 1939, Philadelphia Story = 1940). He pushed to get into active combat, where he not only distinguished himself as a pilot and officer, but was awarded medals several times for his valor. He often scheduled himself to lead missions when he did not have to fly.

    But I didn’t mean to imply he was the only one.

    Here’s a list of some recognizable actors who fought in the war:

    Charles Bronson, tailgunner, B29s, the Pacific, 25 missions, purple heart

    Paul Newman, radioman/tailgunner in torpedo bombers, Pacific

    Rock Hudson, carrier aircraft mechanic, Pacific theater

    Henry Fonda, air-combat intelligence, Pacific theater, received a bronze star

    Tony Curtis, submariner, Pacific theater

    Clark Gable, at 40 years old a gunner aboard bombers in Europe

    Lee Marvin, enlisted in the Marines at 18, badly wounded on Saipan

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