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  • #8093
    PA Ram
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    From Jim Thomas:

    Jim Thomas ‏@jthom1 4m
    Here’s referee Clete Blakeman’s explanation of Eugene Sims’ defensive holding call, on a play in which Sims sacked the QB:

    Jim Thomas ‏@jthom1 3m
    “it was reported to me that there was a receiver that was coming across the formation and therewas a grab and a restriction of that . . .

    Jim Thomas ‏@jthom1 2m
    . . .receiver by No. 97 (Sims). It’s a judgment call by our line judge (Ron Marinucci) and he felt there was enough restriction. . .

    Jim Thomas ‏@jthom1 3m
    . . .there to warrant the call.

    Jim Thomas ‏@jthom1 2m
    When asked if he knew Sims was rushing the passer on the play (and thus engaged by the WR _ Terrance Williams _ Blakeman said:

    Jim Thomas ‏@jthom1 2m
    . ..I don’t know that. I have not seen a replay of it, so I can’t really comment on specifics like that. But that’s what was reported to me”

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #8094
    PA Ram
    Participant

    Uh-huh.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #8181
    Herzog
    Participant

    dumb ass mother ___________________!!!!!

    #8183
    GreatRamNTheSky
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    It was right in front of his fucking ass. He’s the one who made the call. Just like he made that stupid ruffing the passer call.

    BULL FING SHIT

    Grits

    #8199
    PA Ram
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    c

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #8223
    Avatar photozn
    Moderator

    There were some bad ones in that game.

    Who has a list.

    #8225
    PA Ram
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    The roughing call on Romo was clearly wrong.

    The holding call on Sims sack was a joke.

    But don’t forget the non-calls.

    Two dead play clocks–no call.

    Bryant’s T.D. play:

    http://ramsondemand.com/attachments/wk3-langford-hold-jpg.3330

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #8231
    PA Ram
    Participant

    I’m sorry–but if that is not holding NOTHING is holding–ever.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #8241
    Herzog
    Participant

    That game was tragic on so many levels…..I’m so upset I can barely post

    #8245
    RamBill
    Participant

    Late holding penalty frustrates Rams

    By Nick Wagoner | ESPN.com

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/11990/late-holding-penalty-frustrates-rams

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — For all the things that happened to cause the St. Louis Rams’ 21-0 lead to dissipate into a 34-31 loss to the Dallas Cowboys on Sunday, they still had a chance to win the game in the closing minutes.

    After quarterback Austin Davis found receiver Austin Pettis for a touchdown to cut it to 34-31, the Rams elected to kick off and try to get a stop on defense with all three of their timeouts and the two-minute warning available.

    The Rams stuffed Dallas running back DeMarco Murray for no gain on first down to bring up second-and-10 from Dallas’ 20. In need of first downs to ice the game, the Cowboys called for a pass with two and a half minutes left. Quarterback Tony Romo faked a handoff and rolled to his right. From his spot at left defensive end Eugene Sims made contact with Dallas receiver Terrance Williams, who was coming back across the formation.

    Sims immediately came off of Williams and got to Romo, dropping him for an apparent sack and a loss of 11 at the Dallas 9. But a flag came out moments later. The call? Defensive holding on Sims. Instead of third-and-21 from the 9, it became first-and-10 from the 25.

    Rams coach Jeff Fisher declined to comment on some of the calls that went against the Rams in the loss after the game, saying he needed to see the game tape first, but he couldn’t help himself when asked about the call against Sims again.

    “I’m hoping they got the wrong jersey number on the hold there on Eugene,” Fisher said. “I’m really hoping that maybe there was a hold somewhere else on the defense.”

    By all accounts, though, the call was indeed against Sims.

    A pool reporter sought explanation from referee Clete Blakeman, who offered little substance in explaining the call.

    “I have not seen a replay of it, so I can’t really comment on specifics like that,” Blakeman said. “But that’s what was reported to me — that there was a grab and a restriction of an eligible receiver by No. 97.”

    Most Rams preferred not to discuss the penalty on the record for fear of fines from the league but without the recorders running, there were plenty of angry responses, most of which wouldn’t be fit to print here anyway.

    Further review of the play later shows the Rams have every reason to have a beef with the call. Sims did make contact with Williams but it wasn’t even close to a hold. Williams was coming from inside the formation and could easily have been a blocker in that situation. At absolute worst, it was the equivalent of a jam at the line by a corner rather than a hold.

    Mike Pereira, the NFL’s former vice president of officiating, who offers real time analysis of calls around the league, agreed that the call was incorrect.

    But for whatever reason, the Rams never seem to get the benefit of the doubt on any calls that are even close. Sims, in particular, seems a magnet for questionable flags. In the past two weeks, he’s been called for four infractions for a total of 50 yards. Earlier Sunday, he earned a flag for roughing the passer when it appeared he hit Romo on the shoulder with his hand.

    Dallas eventually punted but from its 32 rather than deep in its own territory and by then the Rams had burned all of their timeouts. They started their final drive at their 14 and came up short when Davis had to force a pass down the sideline in an effort to make up the yards lost by the penalty. That pass was intercepted and Dallas kneeled twice for the win.

    #8246
    Herzog
    Participant

    JUST…………….JUST…………………Just……………wow……sooooooo angryyyyyyyyyyy

    #8254
    sdram
    Participant

    It frustrated me as well. I’d like to see the official publicly flogged and then make the scurvy varmint walk the plank or worse.

    These calls seem to have been consistently bad in a couple of the games this season – er maybe it was the grog?

    At any rate, I wonder if Stan needs to pony up more payoff cash for the referees like I’m sure Jerry Jones would do if asked? Or, maybe the NFL secretly wants the Rams to move back to LA so they’re going to aid said move by “helping” them remain in a state of mediocrity or worse. What’s worse that mediocrity? Certainly not a move to the city of Angels.

    OK – hastily concocted conspiracy theories aside -I’m thinking all Ram fans needed a hug yesterday – even the bad ass ones. And, I had to hug myself – that’s not right.

    #8256
    Avatar photowv
    Participant

    These calls seem to have been consistently bad in a couple of the games this season…

    OK – hastily concocted conspiracy theories aside -I’m thinking all Ram fans needed a hug yesterday – even the bad ass ones. And, I had to hug myself – that’s not right.

    Apparently its not a penalty to
    Hug Robert Quinn, continuously.

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    #8281
    RamBill
    Participant

    Burwell: Penalties are killing the Rams
    • By BRYAN BURWELL

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/bryan-burwell/burwell-penalties-are-killing-the-rams/article_ab26e5cf-1507-5206-a93b-bfc65678aada.html

    At the absolute height of their down-and-dirty championship existence, Detroit Pistons players and coaches understood a thing or two about the high cost of doing business when you strut around the basketball globe with “Bad Boys” as your calling card and mayhem as your perceived mode of operation.

    Chuck Daly, the ultra-cool Svengali of the Bad Boys, used to constantly harp about “land mines being everywhere.”

    It was the veteran coach’s public concession to the real or imagined handicaps that came with trying to corral his eccentric menagerie as they pillaged the NBA countryside.

    Strange things would happen during the course of Pistons games. Whistles would tweet, phantom fouls would be called and referees would unapologetically sneer at the Detroit players when they stomped, cussed and complained that they hadn’t laid a glove on the opposing player.

    “Yeah, this time,” refs repeatedly barked at them. “Well then that’s for the 100 other calls you know you SOBs got away with.”

    As it turns out, there’s a cult among these St. Louis Rams that has embraced the Bad Boy Pistons as kindred competitive spirits.

    Mostly it’s the special-teams guys, who have even watched the ESPN documentary on the Detroit hoops dynasty in team meetings and want to play with that same bold, intimidating swagger. But Jeff Fisher-coached teams have long harbored a reputation as edgy, intimidating bad boys, and now it sure does seem as though that rep is beginning to haunt them.

    After three games, they are tied for sixth in the NFL in penalties (26) and second in penalty yards (305). Put that together with the first two years under Fisher and the Rams clearly are one of the most penalized teams in the NFL over the past three seasons.

    Last year, they ranked third in penalties (123) and fourth in penalty yardage (1,009). In 2012, they were called for a league-high 130 penalties and ranked third in penalty yardage (978).

    To put this season’s numbers into perspective, the Rams are on pace for a staggering 138 penalties and 1,627 penalty yards.

    Every week, they keep getting called for penalties. Some of them clearly are of their own doing. But some of them are products of some strange hocus pocus.

    To put it into Bad Boy vernacular, these are the “land mines” that the Rams keep stepping on. These are the unfortunate residue of three consecutive years of being considered one of the most penalized teams in pro football. These are the very real handicaps that the Rams are coping with, and not so well, I might add.

    If they want to be like the Bad Boy Pistons, they better dig deeper into the legend. Detroit loved a good conspiracy, and truly believed the refs were out to get them. Heck, they believed the whole world was out to get them. But as paranoid as they might have been, part of their championship mystique was they knew every night they walked onto the floor they had to overcome their own dark reputations.

    And how did they do that?

    By being so darned good that it didn’t matter if the world was out to get them.

    The Bad Boy Pistons rarely beat themselves.

    The Bad Boy Rams do with a disturbing frequency.

    On Monday afternoon at Rams Park, Fisher flexed his muscles as one of the league’s most influential coaches by skillfully criticizing the way officials are calling penalties on his team.

    In truth, he had several legitimate beefs after reviewing game footage of his team’s 34-31 loss Sunday to the Dallas Cowboys.

    “Believe me, I looked at them,” said Fisher. “I’m disappointed. We had several of them that are not fouls, probably four in particular.”

    By now, we can all recite the blown calls by the officials without a script. The two most obvious ones involved defensive end Eugene Sims, who was called for roughing the passer (supposedly on an imaginary blow to Tony Romo’s helmet) and a defensive hold on a fourth-quarter sack that didn’t happen, either.

    When asked if he could explain the disparity in the calls on Sunday (the Rams were whistled for a staggering 104 more penalty yards than Dallas), Fisher figuratively threw up his hands.

    “I don’t know,” he said. “(But) in my opinion, there were a dozen or so, maybe more, offensive holds that weren’t called by the Cowboys. The penalties didn’t create our turnovers. The penalties didn’t cause the interception return for a touchdown. We weren’t penalized when we fumbled the snap at midfield. We can control the things that we can control and we didn’t do it well enough to win this game.”

    The Bad Boy Pistons were so darned good at the mischief and mayhem they created, they rarely were caught at the scene of the crime holding the smoking gun. Mostly, when they did get busted by the refs it was for the equivalent of tax evasion.

    But there was so much substance that went along with that intimidating Bad Boy style. They were the smartest team in the room. They were gifted and disciplined and full of future Hall of Fame talent and they out-executed everyone they faced, including Michael Jordan’s Bulls, Larry Bird’s Celtics and Magic Johnson’s Lakers.

    And when they did lose, they didn’t beat themselves.

    The Rams seem to always find ways to beat themselves.

    So while it’s perfectly justified for these young Rams to harbor a little healthy dose of referee paranoia, they’d be far better served to eliminate the maddening self-destructive miscues that seem to haunt them on every given Sunday.

    #8282
    RamBill
    Participant

    Fisher frustrated by calls in Dallas game
    • By Jim Thomas

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/fisher-frustrated-by-officiating-in-dallas-game/article_9c082186-e9e8-50d6-b35f-159517a2b2f9.html

    The 448 yards produced by the Rams against the Dallas Cowboys was the highest offensive output for the team in a regulation contest in 30 games.

    That was Game 6 of the 2012 season, coach Jeff Fisher’s first with the Rams. They had 458 yards three games later, but had an extra quarter to get there in a 24-24 overtime tie with San Francisco.

    So Sunday was a rare day offensively for Fisher’s Rams. They outgained the Cowboys by 108 yards. Trouble was, they gave all but four of those yards back via penalty, because the Rams had 119 yards in penalties assessed against them to Dallas’ 15. That’s a 104-yard differential.

    Rarely is there such a wide disparity in penalty yards between two teams in one game. In fact, there’s never been as big a disparity in either direction since the Rams moved to St. Louis in 1995.

    The next-biggest differential came under Steve Spagnuolo in 2011, when the Rams were assessed 117 yards in penalties compared to 32 for Baltimore — an 85-yard disparity.

    On the other sideline, the biggest differential favoring the Rams came in a 27-24 overtime victory over San Francisco in Game 2 of the 2003 season. The 49ers were assessed 121 yards in penalties, while 43 yards were measured off against the Rams — a disparity of 78 yards.

    At his Monday media session, Fisher didn’t realize the historical significance of what happened against Dallas in terms of penalty yards. But he wasn’t happy about the 104-yard differential, and he made that clear.

    “Believe me, I looked at them,” Fisher said. “We had several of them that are not fouls, probably four in particular.”

    The four Fisher was referring to, in chronological order:

    • Penalty No. 1: A roughing the passer call against Eugene Sims late in the second quarter, a play in which referee Clete Blakeman explained Sims delivered a blow to the head.

    Replays showed that Sims’ left hand hit Tony Romo’s shoulder, and then, as he was falling over a Dallas blocker, it barely grazed the Dallas quarterback’s helmet.

    The NFL rule book states that there has to be forcible contact to the head for there to be a penalty. Former NFL director of officiating Mike Pereira, now a Fox television analyst, was brought into the telecast to assess the call. He said there was not enough contact, and it should not have been a penalty.

    The result of the drive was a Dan Bailey field goal to cut the Rams lead to 21-10 at the half. Without the penalty, the Cowboys are left facing a third-and-7 from the St. Louis 37, and maybe they don’t kick a field goal.

    • Penalty No. 2: An offensive holding call against wide receiver Kenny Britt late in the third quarter on a running play by Trey Watts.

    “I didn’t think that was a foul. The (defender) fell down,” Fisher said.

    Instead of having a second-and-3 situation from the Dallas 10, the Rams were pushed back to their 17 (on a spot foul), and settled for a Greg Zuerlein field goal.

    • Penalty No. 3: Late in the fourth quarter, Sims was called for holding on a play in which he sacked Romo for an 11-yard loss to the Dallas 9. Blakeman’s crew ruled that Sims had impeded Dallas wide receiver Terrance Williams, who was in motion and hadn’t reached the line of scrimmage, from running a pass route.

    Both Fox analysts working the game —Daryl Johnston (a former Cowboy) and Tony Siragusa — strongly stated that it shouldn’t have been a penalty, and that it was simply a great play by Sims. Johnston even said he would coach a defensive end to handle the play exactly the same way because you wouldn’t be sure if Williams was blocking or going out on a pattern.

    “The Eugene Sims (holding) play is not a foul,” Fisher said. “It was a huge play. We have a sack and we have a third-and-21. If we create an incomplete pass (on the next play), they’re punting out of the end zone. At that time in the game, it’s a huge field-position swing. That’s an incorrect call.”

    At the time, the Rams trailed 34-31 with 2 minutes 24 seconds left to play. They lost a potential 40 yards in field position as a result of the call, and also had to burn their final two timeouts.

    • Penalty No. 4: The Rams got the ball back four plays later at their 24 on a Chris Jones punt. But Janoris Jenkins was called for holding on the play, and the Rams took over at their 14 yard after the penalty yardage was stepped off.

    “And there’s no foul there in my opinion,” Fisher said. “That’s a huge field position swing considering we started that drive on the 14-yard line. So I’m disappointed in that.”

    In summary, Fisher added: “But to answer you question — the disparity? I don’t know. In my opinion, there were a dozen or so, maybe more, offensive holds that weren’t called (against) the Cowboys.”

    He said defensive tackle Kendall Langford was pulled down by a Dallas blocker on the 68-yard touchdown pass from Romo to Dez Bryant early in the third quarter. But there was no call. In fact, Fisher said there were touchdowns against Tampa Bay and Minnesota that should’ve been called back because of penalties that weren’t called — a false start that wasn’t called against the Buccaneers and a holding call that wasn’t made against Minnesota.

    “So technically, we’ve had three touchdowns scored against us that were improperly officiated,” Fisher said.

    Even so, Fisher said the Rams have to play beyond the calls by minimizing mistakes of their own doing.

    “The penalties didn’t create our turnovers,” Fisher said. “The penalties didn’t cause the interception return for a touchdown. We weren’t penalized when we fumbled the snap at midfield. So we can control the things that we can control, and we didn’t do it well enough to win this game.”

    #8286
    PA Ram
    Participant

    I get the whole “you have to play perfect football and you won’t have to worry about the penalties” argument–but that seems dismissive of the officials true responsibility and the integrity of the game itself. If one team plays with a different set of rules or standards that they are held to–it isn’t a legitimate contest, and yes–fans will notice.

    I haven’t heard a lot about this by the national media because there is always shouting about poor officiating and the noise drowns out any legitimate complaints. The media tends to roll their eyes and say, “Sure–EVERYBODY complains. It’s just part of the game–you win some you lose some–happens to everyone.”

    That does not help the game of football.

    Shine a light on it.

    Make it important.

    “Bad Boys” or not–.call a foul when it’s a foul–period–for both teams.

    Essentially what happens is that the refs watch one team close and just sort of glance at the other one from time to time.

    You miss 2 play clocks? 2? What are you watching?

    You miss a guy being tackled on his way to the quarterback?

    What are you watching?

    You are a quick draw on a roughing call that isn’t even debatable?

    You’re watching one team too much–and missing everything else.

    And yes–they should be called out for it.

    I was thrilled Fisher did that and thank you Jim Thomas for asking the questions.

    You won’t see it on ESPN. They’re too busy kissing Manning’s behind–or setting up their next game which they can claim now has the Dallas team with a winning record. Don’t tarnish that.

    It’s bullshit.

    The league has a lot of problems to clean up. Poor officiating is one of them.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #8307
    Herzog
    Participant

    It makes me sick

    #8326
    Dak
    Participant

    Rarely is there such a wide disparity in penalty yards between two teams in one game. In fact, there’s never been as big a disparity in either direction since the Rams moved to St. Louis in 1995.

    Well, I’ll be honest, I wasn’t watching the blocking closely in this game, so I just assumed that the Cowboys’ offensive line is one of the best in the game.

    You would think that the Rams would have said something to the referees during the game. Usually, when there’s that much holding, you eventually see the calls being made. Maybe it’s as easy as the refs had money on the game. You know?

    #8334
    Herzog
    Participant

    The fix was on. So obvious to me

    #8335
    Mackeyser
    Moderator

    Ten Takeaways from Sunday’s 34-31 Loss to Dallas
    By Randy Karraker

    The Rams’ 50 penalties through three games are fifth in the NFL, and their 305 penalty yards are second. It’s really hard to win consistently when you give the opposition 100 yards per game. Sunday’s damage: eight infractions for 119 yards. And you can blame the officials, but as Brad Thompson says in “The Fast Lane,” “don’t like it? Play better.”

    Um…yeah. This is why I had to take a break. FUCK this. That Defensive Holding call on Eugene Sims was some of the worst bullshit I’ve EVER seen. EVER. It’s the kind of horrible call that feeds conspiracy theories because it defies logic, fact, visual evidence and reason.

    Several of those calls FOR the Cowboys came at critical junctures and as we all know, it only takes a few.

    I realize Quinn has no sacks, but why is no one talking about how he’s not just held on every play, but so obviously and grossly held? It’s like Patriot SB36 level disregarding the rules…

    It’s bullshit.

    If the NFL wants to do this or condones this, then fine. But don’t call it a contest.

    You play to win the game. But it’s not a game if the outcome is decided before hand. And that’s exactly how it feels right now… that the Rams are going to lose big this season to prepare for a move to LA…, but be stocked with talent to make a big splash in 2015 where they will get much better BOD from the league… all of a sudden!…

    This all just stinks to me.

    Play the games on merit.

    Move the damn team if you want to make more f’n money.

    All this subterfuge is why Goodell’s in this mess right now. All of what I wrote above sounds crazy… except it’s exactly the MO of the NFL league office for YEARS… SpyGate, Bountygate… how cities got franchises… How the Giants got the first game in MetLife stadium… why Goodell’s in this Ray Rice mess now… why the CTE scandal is the massive scandal that it is…

    None of this changes that the Rams need to improve things. They most certainly DO.

    However, if we remove the blatant tampering just from the refs in the Cowboys game, the Rams are 2-1 with momentum heading into the bye week, and 2nd in the division, tied with Seattle and ahead of SF who’s in the basement.

    Seriously, looking forward, I expect we either look bad in the next 8 games OR the refs will step in and cost us games such that we do no better than 2-6 over the next 8 games.

    THAT’S MY CALL. It just won’t be allowed. Watch. The reason we lose MORE than one game over the next 8 will be blatant refereeing interference…

    Sports is the crucible of human virtue. The distillate remains are human vice.

    #8342
    Mackeyser
    Moderator

    The level of disparity is so blatant that it defies logical explanation.

    Look at the pictures. The refs can’t say they didn’t see it when they are clearly watching the QB for “points of emphasis” like Personal Fouls and Unnecessary Roughness and Roughing The Passer.

    It’s either GROSS negligence or WILLFUL negligence.

    Either way, the NFL is in a sorry state.

    And it’s not just the Rams.

    Anyone see the Pats/Raider game? The Raiders should have taken that game to overtime, but the Raiders were given the game when on the final Raiders TD endzone drive, an OL got called for a holding that’s the farthest thing from holding. It was a textbook pancake block.

    Here’s the problem. This isn’t like the replacement refs where they made mistakes and looked lost. These calls are specifically influencing the outcomes of games and it’s not even subtle anymore. This is overt. It’s like the league is panicking. “Oh God! We can’t let the Cowboys go 1-2 Not to the Rams! They’re down 21-0! Shit! Step in. You know what to do…”

    And as stupid, lame and as far-fetched as that sounds, it explains things FAR better than any of the idiotic stammering, hemming and hawing and flop sweating the Refs have done in games where these calls have happened.

    I half expect some NFL lackey to break loose with a memo at this point…

    There is hubris in the NFL and where there is hubris, there is soon to be a fall from great heights…

    Sports is the crucible of human virtue. The distillate remains are human vice.

    #8343
    Avatar photowv
    Participant

    The level of disparity is so blatant that it defies logical explanation.

    Look at the pictures. The refs can’t say they didn’t see it when they are clearly watching the QB for “points of emphasis” like Personal Fouls and Unnecessary Roughness and Roughing The Passer.

    It’s either GROSS negligence or WILLFUL negligence.

    Either way, the NFL is in a sorry state.

    And it’s not just the Rams.

    Anyone see the Pats/Raider game? The Raiders should have taken that game to overtime, but the Raiders were given the game when on the final Raiders TD endzone drive, an OL got called for a holding that’s the farthest thing from holding. It was a textbook pancake block.

    Here’s the problem. This isn’t like the replacement refs where they made mistakes and looked lost. These calls are specifically influencing the outcomes of games and it’s not even subtle anymore. This is overt. It’s like the league is panicking. “Oh God! We can’t let the Cowboys go 1-2 Not to the Rams! They’re down 21-0! Shit! Step in. You know what to do…”

    And as stupid, lame and as far-fetched as that sounds, it explains things FAR better than any of the idiotic stammering, hemming and hawing and flop sweating the Refs have done in games where these calls have happened.

    I half expect some NFL lackey to break loose with a memo at this point…

    There is hubris in the NFL and where there is hubris, there is soon to be a fall from great heights…

    Well, the Refs missed a call against the Rams that would have overturned the first Dallas turnover.

    I thought the call against Simms for roughing was wrong, but i could see how a Ref might miss
    that one, since it was close, and in real time that one might be hard to see.

    I dunno Mack, I thought the key to the game was
    the Wells bonehead-play,
    the McCleod? bonehead play on Dez,
    the 4th and inches Failure
    and AustinD’s panicky-INT, and
    JJ’s Pass-Interference on Dez.

    Lots of great plays by the Rams,
    but lots of bonehead ones, too.

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    #8344
    Mackeyser
    Moderator

    McLeod’s bonehead play doesn’t matter if they call that hold on Langford.

    Several of the calls changed field position for us by dozens of yards in one chunk or gave Dallas points.

    We played well enough to win straight up. We didn’t play well enough to win in the face of really biased officiating.

    And I really don’t see that any team SHOULD have to win a war on two fronts…

    Expecting the Rams to beat the officials AND the Cowboys is asking too much. What’s to say that more flags wouldn’t have been thrown in the face of greater success?

    Just look at the Raider game. Raiders swam upstream like a salmon and punched it in on the goal line and the refs called a perfect pancake block by their LG a hold… and the Pats won. Raiders were dealing with the same garbage all game and it didn’t matter.

    More and more there are teams that are playing well enough to win straight up, but NOT well enough to beat the refs also.

    The difference now is that there are more tools than ever to capture every last mistake and to SHOW how blatant this stuff is.

    It’s not a mistake to miss that hold on Langford. You don’t MISS a 320 lb, 6’5″ man being thrown to the ground less than 20 feet from you. I categorically deny that as a possibility.

    Sports is the crucible of human virtue. The distillate remains are human vice.

    #8358
    PA Ram
    Participant

    So I’m at work tonight and football comes up and this Dallas fan starts complaining about Brian Quick pushing off on his T.D. and not getting called for it. Really?

    Of course I couldn’t keep my mouth shut.

    3-15 vs. 9-118. I kept saying that–and then talked about Langford’s tackle and it just got to be a useless shouting match.

    Dallas Cowboys are entitled to every penalty call that goes there way and if anything is missed it’s a travesty.

    But this is the problem. No one hears any sort of legitimate complaint over the noise. The propaganda of the league is that everyone gets good and bad calls and somewhere it evens out and of course never…NEVER really decides the outcome of a game. It took a lot of guts for Fisher to say anything because I’m sure that drops him down to the whiny crybaby class now. But I’m glad he did.

    Despite the mistakes made by the Rams, I truly believe they win if that game is officiated fairly. Heck–I’ll give them the Jenkins trip if we can get the Langford hold.

    But I’ve beaten this drum since Sunday and I’m moving on. It just boils my blood.

    As Jerry Springer would say:

    “Let me ask you something. Why did you cheat?”

    JERRY! JERRY! JERRY!

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

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