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March 24, 2018 at 12:00 am #84448
znModeratorWe don’t know how good Littleton and Ebukam are. It’s only speculation at this point based on a few games.
Barron is controversial but I don’t think he’s in any real danger.
I agree with the general consensus on Longacre, which basically has him as a decent back-up. But then, last year was his first playing standing up, so who knows.
It is pretty clear they need a very good OLB for this group to be good overall. The problem with that is, it’s rare for rookie rushers to excel. Last year for example of the 35 guys with 8 or more sacks, only 1 was a rookie. A quick look at 2016 and it;s the same — 1 rookie is on the list of 30 defenders who got 8 or more sacks.
So at this point, without them having added anyone in free agency, it looks like they will have to hobble together an outside pass rush out of a rookie, Ebukam, and Longacre.
That’s not even getting into who plays the pass-rushing right DE in 4 DL sets.
The magic 8-ball says, ask again later.
March 24, 2018 at 1:23 am #84450
InvaderRamModeratorSo at this point, without them having added anyone in free agency, it looks like they will have to hobble together an outside pass rush out of a rookie, Ebukam, and Longacre.
yeah. i don’t expect any one guy to be that dominant pass rusher. but if you could get several guys with around 5 sacks that would be ok.
but that’s also why i am for getting a guy like suh. not only would he get sacks in pass rush situations. he’s going to create opportunities for other guys. just by commanding double teams. obviously, that’s not the only reason to sign him. but it’s an added bonus. in normal defensive situations is it ideal to have suh at the nose? no. probably not. and maybe not even ideal to have him at end. but wade obviously thinks that stopping the opposing pass defense is the ultimate goal. if they sacrifice some in the running game, he can live with that.
not having him. and having to rely on rookies and second year unknown players like ebukam isn’t going to do it. and i don’t see any clear cut free agents who can provide immediate production.
they could sign a guy like hankins at nose tackle. and then draft a rookie pass rusher. i’m not as comfortable with that.
March 24, 2018 at 1:42 pm #84463InvaderRamModeratori do want to add that suh got a 91 grade from pff in the run game. although i also realize that was mostly from donald’s position. still. maybe it’s just a matter of adjusting his technique a little. i wouldn’t really know.
March 24, 2018 at 3:56 pm #84465znModeratorJust some thoughts and considerations.
As I’ve said in the past, it is very rare to find a starting LOT after round 2. In fact I looked. In the period from 2006-2015 (a decade and far enough back to judge) there were 122 OTs taken and out of those, 6 became continuing starters at LOT—which is 4.9% (I said 5% in the previous post).
So if you want a left OT (and there are good reasons to want one) you need to select him in rounds 1 or 2, though 1 is better.
This is obviously predicated on the idea that there would be someone there worthy of the pick.
When it comes to an edge rusher, round makes little difference. Or rather, you can find guys in rounds 3-4. Since it is very rare that a rookie rusher gets more than 8 sacks, usually you are waiting for a guy to develop before he becomes that, in which case round 3 is as good as round 1, since you have to wait either way.
As I pointed out, in 2017, out or 35 defenders who got 8 or more sacks, 1 was a rookie. In 2016, it was 1 out of 30. Neither rookie, btw, was a 1st rounder. 1 was a 4th rounder and 1 was a 3rd rounder.
On OL–the odds of finding a center, a guard, or a right OT are much better after round 2 than finding a left OT.
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March 24, 2018 at 4:13 pm #84466znModeratorRams, Browns Interested In Junior Galette
https://www.profootballrumors.com/2018/03/rams-browns-interested-in-junior-galette
The Rams and Browns both have interest in Redskins free agent edge rusher Junior Galette, according to Chick Hernandez of CSN Washington (Twitter link). While Los Angeles and Cleveland are indeed eyeing Galette, neither club has made an official offer, reports John Keim of ESPN.com (Twitter link).
Galette, of course, was once a double-digit sack force with the Saints from 2013-14, but injuries and off-field issues have turned him into more a rotational player. After suffering torn Achilles tendons in both 2015 and 2016, Galette finally got in a full season with the Redskins in 2017, and played extremely well on 37% of the club’s defensive snaps.
While he only posted three sacks, Galette managed 25 pressures and graded as the league’s No. 30 edge defender among 106 qualifiers, per Pro Football Focus. Reports last week indicated Washington was working to retain Galette, but Keim says the Redskins expect another team to make a better offer. Washington has already lost one free agent pass rusher this offseason, as Trent Murphy inked a three-year deal with Buffalo.
The Rams make sense as a Galette destination not only because they need edge rushing help (especially after trading Robert Quinn), but because Los Angeles coaches Sean McVay and Joe Barry each worked with Galette in Washington. If signed by the Rams, Galette would likely be in for a major role, as the club’s current crop of outside linebackers — Matt Longacre, Samson Ebukam, and Carlos Thompson — don’t offer a ton of experience.
The Browns, too, have connections to Galette, as front office consultant Scot McCloughan brought Galette to Washington as the Redskins’ general manager, while defensive coordinator Gregg Williams held the same title in New Orleans during the early portion of Galette’s career. Cleveland ranked 17th in adjusted sack rate a season ago, and its only free agent addition on the edge (thus far) is former Bengal Chris Smith, although the Browns did attempt to trade for Quinn.
March 24, 2018 at 4:52 pm #84467InvaderRamModeratorSo if you want a left OT (and there are good reasons to want one) you need to select him in rounds 1 or 2, though 1 is better.
if the rams can get suh, i really want the rams to draft kolton miller.
i don’t think you can pass up a guy with his athletic ability at 23. if he’s available. the rams might not get another chance to draft a left tackle with his potential. let him learn for at least a year under whitworth.
if they can’t sign suh, then i think the rams have to go defense. doesn’t even have to be edge rusher. you could even trade back and get a guy like phillips. or settle. ideally i’d like vea. but no way i trade up to get him. or if they see an edge rusher they really really like, then get him.
but yeah. i agree. i think the rams should be able to find one in the later rounds.
March 24, 2018 at 4:53 pm #84468InvaderRamModeratorWhile he only posted three sacks, Galette managed 25 pressures and graded as the league’s No. 30 edge defender among 106 qualifiers, per Pro Football Focus.
interesting.
March 24, 2018 at 5:04 pm #84469InvaderRamModeratorone would also presume that being a year away from his last achilles injury he should be even healthier now. and the left achilles tendon is 2 years removed….
so there’s that.
i looked up some combine numbers
short shuttle – 4.16
3-cone – 7.04
vertical – 33.5″not bad. not bad. got some length too with 33″ arms.
if he could get back to his 13-14 form, that’d be something else.
washington apparently has pulled their offer off the table.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/mar/23/redskins-pull-offer-junior-galette-report/
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