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January 21, 2021 at 12:00 am #127085znModerator
Blue Boy
McVay (and Kromer) did everything possible scheme-wise to cover up offensive deficiencies…
This is is not a physically overpowering o-line… Yes, they performed better than 2019… And they were indeed better running this year than last… Better (healthier) running backs… More line consistency…
But note: 4 of their 6 losses were against top 10 rush defenses…
And when it came to passing and they faced defenses with a strong push up the middle (between the guards), the line could not keep the pocket from collapsing…
And having a traditional drop-back passer put the unit at risk… Thus they employed a lot of short-drop and / or heavy play-action to buy the blockers more time… As well as the rollouts…
This the reason for the quick / short routes… Why do you think 17-Woods and 10-Kupp where among the leaders in RAC…? Because 9 times out of 10, they were on the receiving end of a short catch and run… Rarely did any of the WR’s run long routes…
Two years ago, the average pass reception to 17-Woods travelled 10 yards before he caught it… This year, only 5 yards… (Same for 10-Kupp, only 5 yards…) Yet both players got about 10.5 yards p/catch INCLUDING RAC…
Again, much of the positive the team was able to accomplish was due to scheme, coaching and play-calling…
I believe the o-line was poor when it came to pass blocking… And serviceable when it came to run blocking…
And of course, 17-Woods and 10-Kupp are REALLY GOOD Wr’s… Two of my absolute favorite players… But the team lacked anyone to stretch the field and create more space for the offense – if they could hold their blocking long enough…
To further make my point, I suggest you watch McVay’s season closing press conference from Sunday… Where he readily admits to the o-line’s failing and the impact of not having a WR who can stretch the field…
January 21, 2021 at 10:45 pm #127099HramParticipantThat’s my take. If we are strong on the Oline, particularly up the middle, and particularly in pass blocking, everything will work better.
January 22, 2021 at 10:44 am #127111znModeratorramsman34
Here’s how I watch a lot of the games: I focus on line play. Simply put, our zone scheme helps our OL perform better than their skill set, or lack thereof. The interior of our OL is (a) Not physically strong at the point of attack, and (b) not athletically gifted. That combination makes their combined/in-concert technique critical in the run game. Thankfully we have a couple shifty and instinctive runners in Hendo and Akers to offset deficiencies.
However, in pass pro the problems surface. None of our interior OL can anchor and stone or redirect quality inside rushers. That leaves JG no way to climb the pocket bc the pocket is gettin shoved down his throat. When your most athletic and strongest OL is a 41 year old big whit, ya might have some issues. A gap pressure coupled with DL who can set the edge create real problems for ANY QB, let alone a slow footed, pocket passer.
I personally think Goff can excel if the blocking and play calling are married up nicely. MCV has done what he thinks he can. I KNOW he thinks Goff is limited. And I KNOW he wants better interior OL players.
All the talk about a deep threat is fine. However, on a 7 step drop, it is critical that the rush be pushed out and around the pocket allowing the QB to “climb” and launch deeper throws. We simply did not have that last season or this season. Defenses compressed the field vertically forcing MCV to work horizontally. We all saw it, game after game. That was all he could call and hope to execute.
Goff may not be the long term answer. But, give him much better interior OL play and then judge him.
I will be shocked if the interior OL is not heavily addressed this off season, regardless of QB.
Even with a more mobile QB, creating a clean pocket is critical to creating more explosives in the passing game. Sure you can roll a guy out, run RPOs but that cuts your field in half or down to 2/3. Ya can’t live like that and expect to score a lot of points.
Next season will be a giant litmus test. IF JG has a clean pocket more often than not, will he be able to create deeper plays, secondary and tertiary reads that he can execute? If so, we will be better than fine. If not, expect more of the same slightly above average offensive play. And, not getting deep in the playoffs.
Ask AD about the importance of strong interior OL play. He knows what that does against the rush and for a QB.
January 22, 2021 at 1:03 pm #127114wvParticipantBlue Boy
McVay (and Kromer) did everything possible scheme-wise to cover up offensive deficiencies…
This is is not a physically overpowering o-line… Yes, they performed better than 2019… And they were indeed better running this year than last… Better (healthier) running backs… More line consistency…
But note: 4 of their 6 losses were against top 10 rush defenses…
And when it came to passing and they faced defenses with a strong push up the middle (between the guards), the line could not keep the pocket from collapsing…
And having a traditional drop-back passer put the unit at risk… Thus they employed a lot of short-drop and / or heavy play-action to buy the blockers more time… As well as the rollouts…
This the reason for the quick / short routes… Why do you think 17-Woods and 10-Kupp where among the leaders in RAC…? Because 9 times out of 10, they were on the receiving end of a short catch and run… Rarely did any of the WR’s run long routes…
Two years ago, the average pass reception to 17-Woods travelled 10 yards before he caught it… This year, only 5 yards… (Same for 10-Kupp, only 5 yards…) Yet both players got about 10.5 yards p/catch INCLUDING RAC…
Again, much of the positive the team was able to accomplish was due to scheme, coaching and play-calling…
I believe the o-line was poor when it came to pass blocking… And serviceable when it came to run blocking…
And of course, 17-Woods and 10-Kupp are REALLY GOOD Wr’s… Two of my absolute favorite players… But the team lacked anyone to stretch the field and create more space for the offense – if they could hold their blocking long enough…
To further make my point, I suggest you watch McVay’s season closing press conference from Sunday… Where he readily admits to the o-line’s failing and the impact of not having a WR who can stretch the field…
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I tend to agree with every single word of that.
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