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    i wish they’d just go grass. from what i’ve read it seems like it’s very doable.

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    Didn’t know Sofi was so bad. No excuse for it, given the five billion price tag, especially. For that kind of money, you’d think they could go full Mars terraforming.

    If the players were smart, they’d say No grass fields? No play. And, again, drop back to 14 games, and no more Thursdays.

    The players have more power than they seem to realize. They haven’t made the most of that, IMO.

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    I have a really cool idea for turf vs grass study! Ask the people who actually perform and put their bodies at risk on it! We know how we feel on it. Injury or not! Beating it puts on body, how hard it is when helmet hits, footing, etc
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    Andrew Whitworth@AndrewWhitworth I have a really cool idea for turf vs grass study! Ask the people who actually perform and put their bodies at risk on it! We know how we feel on it. Injury or not! Beating it puts on body, how hard it is when helmet hits, footing, etc

     

    it’d be interesting to see the long-term effects of playing on synthetic grass. not just the acute injuries.

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    NFL sets deadline for every stadium to install new playing surface

    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/health/fitness/nfl-sets-deadline-for-every-stadium-to-install-new-playing-surface/ar-AA1RJsLu?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=693263d35e7344ada683f7173fbd41b7&ei=24

    Every NFL stadium will have to install a new playing surface by the start of the 2028 season, the league announced Thursday.

    NFL field director Nick Pappas detailed the plans for the program that will provide each team “a library of approved and accredited NFL fields” before the start of next season.

    Teams will then have two years to install the new approved playing surfaces, whether they are grass, synthetic or a hybrid.

    Pappas said the fields will have undergone extensive testing and been approved by a joint committee with the NFLPA. He compared to the testing that has led to new standards for helmets.

    “It’s sort of a red, yellow, green effect, where we’re obviously trying to phase out fields that we have determined to be less ideal than newer fields coming into the industry,” he said.

    “This is a big step for us. This is something that I think has been a great outcome from the Joint Service Committee of the work, the deployment and development of devices determining the appropriate metrics, and ultimately providing us with a way to substantiate the quality of fields more so than we ever have in the past.”

    Pappas said fields have been tested in labs and on site using two main tools with one called the BEAST that is a traction testing device that replicates the movements of an NFL player and another called the STRIKE Impact Tester that helps determine the firmness of each field.

    The goal of the league is to find fields that are as consistent as possible across all 30 NFL stadiums, as well as at each stadium throughout the season. Pappas said the “key pillars” for a field are optimized playability, reducing injury risk and player feedback.

    The NFL has no plans to require natural grass fields across the league with the league’s chief medical officer Dr. Allen Sills saying there is no “statistically significant differences” in lower extremity injuries or concussions that can be attributed to the type of playing surface or a specific surface despite widespread preferences from players for grass fields and complaints about surfaces such as the one at MetLife Stadium where the New York Giants and Jets play.

    “The surface is only one driver of these lower extremity injuries,” Sills said.

    “There are a lot of other factors, including player load and previous history and fatigue and positional adaptability and cleats that are worn.

    “So surfaces are a component, but it is a complex equation, and so I’m excited about where we are in the work because I think we’ll get away from a very crude measurement of artificial here and the grass here, and now we can say for any individual surface, let’s look at the biophysical properties of that surface. How might those correlate with injury? And then, obviously, how do we optimize them?”

    Pappas also shared plans for the Super Bowl to be held on Feb. 8 at the San Francisco 49ers home at Levi’s Stadium in Santa Clara, California.

    The field has been growing at a sod farm about two hours east of the Bay Area with Pappas making several visits over the past 18 months to monitor the field.

    The league will plan to install the field around the third week in January — or later if the 49ers could be hosting playoff games.

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    Didn’t know Sofi was so bad. No excuse for it, given the five billion price tag, especially. For that kind of money, you’d think they could go full Mars terraforming.

    If the players were smart, they’d say No grass fields? No play. And, again, drop back to 14 games, and no more Thursdays.

    The players have more power than they seem to realize. They haven’t made the most of that, IMO.

    Amen.

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    The NFL has no plans to require natural grass fields across the league with the league’s chief medical officer Dr. Allen Sills saying there is no “statistically significant differences” in lower extremity injuries or concussions that can be attributed to the type of playing surface or a specific surface despite widespread preferences from players for grass fields and complaints about surfaces such as the one at MetLife Stadium where the New York Giants and Jets play.

    i’d like to see what an independent party would have to say about that.

    could the players union sue the nfl and take it to court? honest question.

    from what i can tell turf would cost the nfl 1-2 million dollars every ten years to maintain vs 1 million per year for grass.

    compared to how much revenue each team generates that can’t be much. not only that but the chargers play in sofi. the bruins may very well end up playing there. why not split the cost?

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