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January 27, 2018 at 11:12 am #80501wvParticipant
At no 5 down there, the WYNN kid looks intriguing to me.
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Orlando Brown*, OT, Oklahoma
Height: 6-8. Weight: 360.
Projected 40 Time: 5.45.
Projected Round (2018): 1-2.
1/22/18: Brown is a strong blocker at the point of attack, which was illustrated by him consistently tossing defenders to the ground for Oklahoma. In pass protection, Brown has some athletic issues, like playing too high for the NFL, so speed rushers give him problems. Some team sources feel Brown should move inside to guard as a pro, but others believe that he will be a starting right tackle. Multiple team contacts think that Brown will be a second-round pick in the 2018 NFL Draft and project him as a starting right tackle. On the other hand, the 2018 NFL Draft is weak at the tackle position, which could push Brown to end up going on Thursday night of the draft.Brown has drawn comparisons to D.J. Fluker coming out of Alabama, who was a high first-rounder but was a bust for the Chargers. Sources have said that Brown plays up or down to competition, and that could be seen with an excellent game against Ohio State but an ugly one versus Iowa State. Brown was not consistently dominant in the ground game even though he should have gotten the better of the collegiate linemen he was facing.
9/1/17: Brown has been a starting left tackle for Oklahoma, but for the NFL, he is more of a right tackle competitor. Brown was a tough run blocker for the Sooners in 2016, opening a lot of holes for their talented tandem of running backs. He spent 2015 and 2016 at left tackle, but he’s too tall for that spot in the NFL. Brown could be a good right tackle candidate in his draft class.
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Kolton Miller*, OT, UCLA
Height: 6-8. Weight: 310.
Projected 40 Time: 5.20.
Projected Round (2018): 2-3.
1/22/18: Miller had a rough start to 2017, but turned in a quality season blocking for Josh Rosen as UCLA’s left tackle. Miller has good length to him and the ability to stay on the edge in the NFL. However, he might be a better fit as a right tackle in the pros as he can have problems with speed rushes to the inside. Miller played right tackle in 2015 and 2016 before injuries ended those seasons early. He only played in five games in 2016.————–
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Desmond Harrison, OT, West Georgia
Height: 6-7. Weight: 300.
Projected 40 Time: 5.10.
Projected Round (2018): 2-3.
1/22/18: Harrison was part of the Texas program before being dismissed by then-coach Charlie Strong. Failed drug tests were the reason for Harrison’s dismissal. He landed at West Georgia, where he has played well for the Wolves. Team sources say that Harrison has the skill set of a first- or second-round pick. He has NFL size, quickness, athleticism and length. Team sources say they don’t think Harrison will get out of the second day of the 2018 NFL Draft and that his stock could catch fire at the Senior Bowl.——————
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Isaiah Wynn, OT/G/C, Georgia
Height: 6-2. Weight: 302.
Projected 40 Time: 5.10.
Projected Round (2018): 2-3.
1/22/18: Wynn impressed scouts in 2017 as an excellent run blocker for the Bulldogs. He blocks with aggression and has a temperament that is hard to find in college blockers. In pass protection, Wynn was very dependable as well.Because he is shorter and doesn’t have ideal length, some sources think that Wynn could move to guard or center in the NFL. Wynn started at left guard in 2016, but scouts think he is athletic enough to also play center. Wynn’s size and skill set has drawn comparisons to Kelvin Beachum, who is undersized but has managed to carve out a career at left tackle in the NFL. Wynn is just a natural football player who finds a way to get the job done, thus he might end up sticking at left tackle.
Brian O’Neil*, OT, Pittsburgh
Height: 6-6. Weight: 305.
Projected 40 Time: 5.10.
Projected Round (2018): 2-4.
1/22/18: O’Neil is an interesting athlete. He played wide receiver in high school before going to Pittsburgh as a tight end. After redshirting as a tight end, he switched to offensive tackle and gained a lot of weight. In 2015 and 2016, O’Neil was the starting right tackle for the Panthers. With Adam Bisnowaty moving on to the NFL, O’Neil was Pittsburgh’s left tackle for 2017 and had a decent season. O’Neil needs to get stronger for the NFL.O’Neil has been protected by some to be a first-round pick. One team source said they had O’Neil as a third/fourth-round pick. One AFC general manager said they had O’Neil as a third-day pick and felt O’Neil lacked strength.
Martinas Rankin, OT, Mississippi State
Height: 6-5. Weight: 307.
Projected 40 Time: 5.20.
Projected Round (2018): 2-4.
1/22/18: In speaking with sources at a few teams, they were down on Rankin because they felt he lacks power and gets knocked to the ground too much when going against power. They say that Rankin is a good athlete, a good kid, smart and versatile, but his lack of strength is problematic for the NFL. Sources say that the Senior Bowl will see Rankin’s draft stock skyrocket or fall depending on how he does in the one-on-ones, along with handling power. Multiple sources from a few teams compared Rankin to Troy’s Antonio Garcia, who was a second-day pick in the 2017 NFL Draft. They see Rankin as a similar talent for the 2018 NFL Draft.9/1/17: Rankin had a strong 2016 season as a run blocker and pass protector for Mississippi State. He received a second-round estimation from the NFL Draft Advisory Board for the 2017 NFL Draft, and he could definitely push that higher with a strong 2017 season.
Connor Williams*, OT, Texas
Height: 6-6. Weight: 290.
Projected 40 Time: 5.10.
Projected Round (2018): 2-4.
1/22/18: Williams returned to play in the final couple of games of 2017 before shutting it down to prepare for the 2018 NFL Draft and decided to skip his bowl game. He missed seven games of the 2017 season. Midway through the first half against USC, he went down with a torn knee meniscus and strained ligaments.As we reported in the Hot Press, Williams was receiving some mid-round grades from evaluators this season. Some teams have Williams higher, while others really dislike his game. The main issue that sources said was hurting Williams is a lack of strength. One AFC team in need of tackle help said they gave him a late third-round, early fourth-round grade.
I spoke with a NFC general manager who scouted Williams in person this season, and they were disappointed in Williams overall. They felt Williams lacked strength and thought him overhyped. This NFC general manager said they thought Williams was a fourth-rounder. Williams had a disappointing season opener against Maryland, getting flagged for numerous holds, including some that canceled out big plays for his team. He allowed some pressures and hits, too. Williams has some athletic ability, and some evaluators feel he should move inside to guard.
9/1/17: Williams broke into the starting lineup at left tackle as a freshman for the Longhorns in 2015 and locked down the position. He improved as a sophomore as he was a steady pass protector and consistent run blocker. Williams has good length, quickness and athleticism. He needed to add more power, and he is supposedly up to 315 pounds entering the 2017 season. Scouting sources say that at this point, they see Williams as a first-round offensive tackle.
In pass protection, Williams is a good athlete with quickness on the edge. He has length with long arms and height to make it hard for edge rushers to get around him. Williams has quick feet, balance, and gets depth in his kick slide to neutralize edge rushers. Even though Williams wasn’t overly powerful last year, he showed a nice ability to sustain his blocks in pass protection.
As a run blocker, Williams is excellent at using his quickness to fire to the second level to hit blocks to spring his running back for some long runs. Williams uses his athleticism to hit blocks in space and is superb at hitting blocks on linebackers to create lanes for the ball-carrier.
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January 27, 2018 at 11:33 am #80504znModerator2018 NFL draft early watch list: Offensive tackles
Last year’s draft gave us one of the weakest offensive tackle classes in recent memory, with the first one not coming off the board until the 20th overall pick, and only two landing in the first round.
This time around, it’s a much better year to need an impact player at such an important position, with a handful of perimeter blockers likely to warrant first-round consideration, three of whom could end up deserving a top-15 selection.
These rankings will be fluid throughout the predraft process, based on film work, all-star performances, workouts numbers and other factors, but here are my current offensive tackle rankings for the 2018 NFL draft:
Here’s an early look at the top offensive tackle prospects eligible for the 2018 NFL draft:
Connor Williams | Texas
The Longhorns haven’t had a first-round pick since 2013, but Williams has the talent to be a potential top-five selection in the 2018 draft. After claiming the starting job at left tackle as a true freshman, Williams was a first-team All-America selection as a sophomore in 2016, and already has 23 starts under his belt. A massive, athletic blocker with long arms and room to add a few pounds of quality bulk, Williams is still growing into his physical tools and barely scratching the surface of his potential.
Mike McGlinchey | Notre Dame
Especially considering this year’s weak class, many were surprised when McGlinchey chose to return to South Bend for another year rather than enter the 2017 draft. But he return he did, and McGlinchey will team up with Quentin Nelson as one of the nation’s top tackle-guard tandems. Listed at a massive 6-8 and 312 pounds, McGlinchey is arguably the most polished of this year’s top tackle prospects, and if he stays healthy, he could easily be the first one off the board come next April.
Orlando Brown | Oklahoma
The Red River rivalry will give us two of the top tackle prospects eligible for this year’s draft, as Brown has all the tools to merit first-round consideration. After redshirting in 2014, Brown has started all 26 games for the Sooners at left tackle, earning second-team All-America honors last season. A massive force at 6-8, 360 pounds, Jones will be among the most experienced and physically gifted blockers in this class. If he continues his current development track, he could be a top-20 pick in the 2018 draft, should he decide to leave school early.
Mitch Hyatt | Clemson
The skill positions got most of the attention for the national champs last year, but Hyatt kept Deshaun Watson safe for both of the Tigers’ runs to the national title game. The first Clemson tackle to start the season-opener as a freshman since 1944, Hyatt already has 29 starts to his name, earning All-ACC honors in each of his two campaigns at the most premium position on the offensive line. As the offense sees plenty of turnover at key positions, Hyatt’s experience, leadership and presence will be vital if Clemson wants to make another title grab this year. That will only boost Hyatt’s draft stock.
Martinas Rankin | Mississippi State
A highly touted junior college recruit in 2015, Rankin had some growing pains after earning the starting left tackle job for the Bulldogs in 2016, but came on strong over the second half of the season. His size, athleticism and physicality give him tons of upside, and NFL teams will love his versatility. If he can smooth out the rough edges of his game, play more consistently and maximize his physical tools, Rankin should be a Day 2 lock in next year’s draft, should he choose to make the early jump to the pros.
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Trey Adams | Washington
Geron Christian | Louisville
Toby Weathersby | LSU
Jamarco Jones | Ohio State
Tyrell Crosby | Oregon
January 27, 2018 at 4:12 pm #80514JackPMillerParticipantI really like Rankin. I feel he could move up in the draft. I watched some of his games, he played well. If his weakness is his strength, that is why we have strength and conditioning coaches to help him. I would have no issues with grabbing Rankin at 23.
January 27, 2018 at 5:57 pm #80519znModeratorAt no 5 down there, the WYNN kid looks intriguing to me.
Because he is shorter and doesn’t have ideal length, some sources think that Wynn could move to guard or center in the NFL. Wynn started at left guard in 2016, but scouts think he is athletic enough to also play center. Wynn’s size and skill set has drawn comparisons to Kelvin Beachum, who is undersized but has managed to carve out a career at left tackle in the NFL. Wynn is just a natural football player who finds a way to get the job done, thus he might end up sticking at left tackle.
The difference is, Wynn could be taken high as a guard (most likely) or center (less likely). So, I figure someone who intends him as a guard would cut in on the early rounds. Beachum, in contrast, was taken in the 7th round of the 2012 draft by the Steelers (he now plays for the Jets). So in the case of Beachum, it was a developmental project player who paid off. In fact Beachum was one of the guys who turned up when I searched for starting left tackles taken after the 2nd round from 2006-2015. There were 122 OTs drafted in that time frame and only 6 ended up being established NFL starters (and not just injury fill-ins).
Short version: I doubt anyone takes Wynn just to be a left OT. Height matters for left OTs so I bet short ones are as rare as qbs under 5’11 if not under 6′. Taking him as a left oT would be so iffy and experimental that chances are no one does it with a high pick, and in the meanwhile some team or another would take him, you assume, as a guard long before he reaches the lower rounds of the draft, where taking a project like that would be okay.
Well that wasn’t that much shorter I guess…
January 27, 2018 at 10:36 pm #80524wvParticipantWell that wasn’t that much shorter I guess…
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Well, i like the fact that he might be able to play every single position on the OLine. Think of how valuable a guy like that might be when the injuries start coming.
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vJanuary 27, 2018 at 10:38 pm #80526wvParticipantOne of these guys is gonna be a Ram:https://www.drafttek.com/2018-NFL-Draft-Prospect-Rankings/Top-College-Offensive-Tackles-2018-Draft.asp
January 27, 2018 at 10:39 pm #80528znModeratorWell, i like the fact that he might be able to play every single position on the OLine. Think of how valuable a guy like that might be when the injuries start coming.
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vfrom a senior bowl report:
Isaiah Wynn showed why Daniel Jeremiah had him in round 1. I haven’t seen an OG win that overwhelmingly and consistently in as long as I can remember watching these practices … he may go 2nd for interior guys …
January 28, 2018 at 1:17 pm #80543wvParticipantWell, i like the fact that he might be able to play every single position on the OLine. Think of how valuable a guy like that might be when the injuries start coming.
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vfrom a senior bowl report:
Isaiah Wynn showed why Daniel Jeremiah had him in round 1. I haven’t seen an OG win that overwhelmingly and consistently in as long as I can remember watching these practices … he may go 2nd for interior guys …
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Remember when a lot of folks thought Aaron Donald was too short.
Wynn feels like an A.Donald to me. Just a hunch.
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