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May 13, 2015 at 9:18 am #24497znModerator
Offensive Linemen Make Early Impression
Myles Simmons
It’s no secret that the Rams are looking to become one of the league’s best power-run teams. Not only was taking running back Todd Gurley at No. 10 overall a clear signal, but also drafting four offensive linemen who are each at least 6-foot-3 and 315 pounds.
“It’s hard not to look at the four offensive linemen we drafted and say, ‘Wow,’” head coach Jeff Fisher said after Saturday’s rookie orientation session. “Somebody said yesterday they look like refrigerators with legs. It’s a good-looking group and they’re moving around pretty good.”
Rob Havenstein, Jamon Brown, Andrew Donnal, and Cody Wichmann can all be described as “maulers” — guys who are physical at the point of attack and excel at run blocking. Taken with the 119th overall pick in the fourth round, Donnal said he’s more than a little excited to now be a part of a power-run team.
“That’s a lineman’s dream,” he said. “We want to run the ball, push people around. We like it dirty and messy. We don’t like everything clean. So yes, that’s an awesome situation for us to come into.”
Though they didn’t do too much on the field over the weekend — Fisher said he likes to use this time mostly to help get the rookies get acclimated to their new environment — the head coach intimated that each linemen has a chance to be successful sooner than later.
“The Iowa offensive system, the Wisconsin offensive system are probably more closer to what we do,” Fisher said. “Fresno State, Cody is well coached. We’re really excited about Jamon because he’s got tremendous athletic ability. I don’t think it’s going to be a long time for the four of them to catch on to the techniques and things and what not.”
Under head coach Kirk Ferentz, Iowa has earned a reputation for producing quality offensive linemen. As a Hawkeye, Donnal says that status comes from the high emphasis the coaching staff places on technique and fundamentals. He added that coming from Iowa’s pro-style system likely will help him when it comes to learning the Rams’ offense.
“A lot of the overall scheme concepts are pretty similar,” Donnal said. “It’s just getting down the verbiage and how to communicate everything with all the other lineman that takes a while to learn.”
A product of Fresno State, Wichmann, the No. 215 overall pick in the sixth round, played in a spread offense his junior and senior seasons. But in the years prior, the Bulldogs played a traditional pro style under former head coach Pat Hill.
“Many of the terms, at least for run blocking, are the same,” Whichmann said, adding that he had been using his old playbooks to review concepts he would need in the NFL. “I was working plays on the board with Kenny Wiggins, who plays for the Chargers. I played with him when I was a freshman at Fresno, so that helped.”
But now that they’re in the building, the four draftees will have the tutelage of offensive line coach Paul T. Boudreau. And based on the early reviews, the veteran coach has already been making a positive impact.
“I had the opportunity to speak to coach Boudreau in the pre-draft process and I was absolutely ecstatic that I have the opportunity to play under him,” Havenstein said. “I think he’s a great coach already. I’m learning little techniques and once I get that going, I’m just looking to be the best O-lineman I can be every day.”
“So far, the work we’ve done, I think he’s an excellent teacher,” Brown said. “I think he will be a coach and a guy who will be able to get me to where I’m trying to get to. We’ll just keep working everything and see where it takes us.”
Though there were only 26 players at the Rams rookie orientation, they still had enough first-years to fill out an offensive line. In addition to Havenstein, Brown, Donnal, and Wichman, the team signed undrafted free agent offensive tackle Darrell Williams out of South Florida.
“They’re great guys. I’m having a blast with them,” Wichmann said. “They’re all hard workers. We’ve got four drafted, one undrafted, but we view it as we’re all brothers, I think. We just met each other, but I think it’ll get to that point. We already have each other’s back. It’s only Day 2, but I think we’ll get closer and closer as a tight-knit group.”
“All the guys in the offensive line room, seems like we’re pretty unselfish,” Donnal said. “They kind of left their egos at the door, and they’re just here for football. They don’t care if you were the first pick or the 300th pick — whatever. We’re all here to earn spots and we’re here to compete.”
And according to Brown, that competition will likely make the entire group better.
My motto has always been, ‘Iron sharpens iron,’ so you want to have a lot of good guys around you to be able to push you and kind of make you play to the best of your ability all the time,” Brown said. “When you do that, everyone gets better. So iron sharpens iron is the motto.”
As the offseason program progresses, the linemen know that competing against one another could spur each to not only crack the roster, but also make an early impact. For one, general manager Les Snead said after Havenstein’s selection that the Wisconsin product is ready to play. But like any athlete would tell you, Havenstein said he’s just taking things one day at a time.
“I’m just excited for the opportunity that’s in front of me here,” Havenstein said. “I can’t think about anything but one day in the future, one rep in the future. The next meal, the next rep, the next thing I’ve got is what I’m focusing on. I’m just looking forward to doing that the best I can.”
May 13, 2015 at 9:40 am #24499wvParticipantNice little article. Good writing.
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vMay 13, 2015 at 6:25 pm #24518znModeratorLinemen in camp now:
Barnes (C)
Jones (C, & G?)
Rhaney (C)
Wang (C)Saffold (G)
Reynolds (G, & T?)
Washington (G)
Bond (G)
Brown (G)
Donnal (G, & T?)
Wichman (G)Robinson (T)
Baker (T)
Havenstein (T)
Darrell Williams (T)May 13, 2015 at 7:26 pm #24529sdramParticipantLinemen in camp now:
Barnes (C)
Jones (C, & G?)
Rhaney (C)
Wang (C)Saffold (G)
Reynolds (G, & T?)
Washington (G)
Bond (G)
Brown (G)
Donnal (G, & T?)
Wichman (G)Robinson (T)
Baker (T)
Darrell Williams (T)I assume you left out Havenstein because he’s not in camp yet?
May 13, 2015 at 7:29 pm #24530znModeratorI assume you left out Havenstein because he’s not in camp yet?
No I left out Havenstein because sometimes, brain not work good.
I edited him back in. Thanks for the catch.
May 13, 2015 at 7:42 pm #24532HerzogParticipantBarksdale is losing more and more leverage each day. Snisher might just see those ‘refrigerater with legs” and say screw it.
May 13, 2015 at 7:45 pm #24533sdramParticipantWell, my only hope is that the Rams opponents never forget Havenstein either.
So, have you ever left a store and walked all over the parking lot looking for your car and then after too long of a time remembered that you drove your wife’s car to the store? Or, was it just me?
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May 13, 2015 at 7:51 pm #24536HerzogParticipantWell, my only hope is that the Rams opponents never forget Havenstein either.
So, have you ever left a store and walked all over the parking lot looking for your car and then after too long of a time remembered that you drove your wife’s car to the store? Or, was it just me?
Happens to me all the time
May 13, 2015 at 7:57 pm #24537znModeratorWell, my only hope is that the Rams opponents never forget Havenstein either.
So, have you ever left a store and walked all over the parking lot looking for your car and then after too long of a time remembered that you drove your wife’s car to the store? Or, was it just me?
No…it’s not just you. I’ve done that. Though I didn’t walk all over, I just stood there vainly scanning the lot, all annoyed n perplexed.
May 13, 2015 at 8:05 pm #24538wvParticipantBarksdale is losing more and more leverage each day. Snisher might just see those ‘refrigerater with legs” and say screw it.
Is it too early to give the OLine a nickname?
The… ‘Fearsome Refrigerators’ ?
The…’Refrigerator Magnets’ ? (coz they stick to dlinemen)
The…Refrigerators of Doom ? I dunno. I got nuthin, i guess.
It would help if somethin rhymed with refrigerator.w
vMay 13, 2015 at 8:15 pm #24540znModeratorI got nuthin, i guess.
It would help if somethin rhymed with refrigerator.How about The Refrigerators Where They Keep the Pancakes?
Or…does it have to be short?
How about the Refrigerator Gladiators?
Heck it doesn;t have to rhyme.
Hell’s Refrigerators.
May 13, 2015 at 9:31 pm #24543ZooeyModeratorGurley Men.
May 13, 2015 at 11:10 pm #24553MackeyserModeratorI prefer “The Breakfast Buffet”… You walk up looking for the Pigskin, but all you get is a Pancake Breakfast!!!
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May 15, 2015 at 5:52 am #24592AgamemnonParticipantMay 15, 2015 at 5:54 am #24593AgamemnonParticipantMay 15, 2015 at 6:00 am #24594AgamemnonParticipantAndrew Donnal NFL Draft 2015: Scouting Report, Grade for Rams Rookie
By Team Stream Now , B/R Video May 2, 2015A grinder at right tackle, Andrew Donnal has the technique and motor you want in a prospect. Donnal is technically smart with a strong, hard burst coming out of the snap. He’s a fighter who looks for contact in the run game, and he shows good hand placement when locking on to defenders. As you’d expect from an Iowa player, Donnal is a well-coached, pro-ready player. He has the length to affect the passing game and can play guard or right tackle in both power- and zone-blocking schemes. Donnal’s instincts are developed, and he won’t get caught waiting or guessing on what to do off the ball.
WEAKNESSES
Donnal wasn’t invited to the Shrine Game or the Senior Bowl, but he was a combine invite. He’s a lean player with a narrow, skinny base and must add power in his foundation to be a better run-blocker at the next level. He’ll struggle to anchor against a bull rush and hasn’t shown the agility to reset his feet and redirect in pass pro.
PRO COMPARISON: Sam Baker, Atlanta Falcons
Donnal may be limited as an athlete, but his strength and technique are good enough for him to play in the NFL for a long time. His upside is comparable to Sam Baker’s, and they’re similar athletes too.
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Andrew Donnal, OT
School: Iowa | Conference: BIG10
College Experience: Senior | Hometown: Monclova, OH
Height/Weight: 6-6 / 313 lbs.
Projected Ranking
Overall Position Proj. Rnd.
217 19 6http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1737214/andrew-donnal
Player Lowdown
Combine Results
40 Yd 20 Yd 10 Yd 225 Bench Vertical jump Broad Shuttle 3-Cone Drill
5.31 3.14 1.92 17 32 8’5″ 4.77 7.84
Workout Results
40 Yd 20 Yd 10 Yd 225 Bench Vertical jump Broad Shuttle 3-Cone Drill
– – – 23 – – – 7.51
Strengths Weaknesses
STRENGTHS: Desired height with workable arm length and hand size. Adequate athlete and set-up quickness. Prefers to use his hands to drive block, keeping his grip inside defenders and shuffling his lower body. Fundamentally sound and well-coached. Uses his length well to initiate the action and seal the edge any way he can. Always looking for someone to block with alert, active eyes. Doesn?t make mental mistakes, staying focused from snap-to-snap. Impressive tenacity through the whistle, displaying the finishing toughness to eliminate his man. Often powers defenders to the ground like a wrestler. Buys into coaching and works hard to hone his craft. Team-first attitude and waited his turn to be the starter.WEAKNESSES: Leaner-than-ideal and lacks ideal body girth. Narrow base and upright off the snap, making leverage an issue. Can be bullied on his heels and lacks the anchor to absorb bull rushers. Forces his momentum out of his stance, making him susceptible to inside moves, struggling to recover in time. Engages well, but needs to redirect his target and do a better job with angles. Needs to load more ammo into his punch to shock defenders, especially at the second level. Hesitant and needs to speed up his decision-making. Impatient on the edges and finds himself hunched over at the waist. Only one season of true starting experience (16 career starts). Some durability concerns, suffering an ACL injury (Oct. 2012) that ended his sophomore season and bothered him throughout his junior year.
–Dane Brugler
Player Overview
Brandon Scherff and Donnal both arrived at Iowa as part of the 2010 Hawkeyes recruiting class, which was also the last year the school produced two offensive tackle picks in the same NFL Draft (Bryan Bulaga, Kyle Calloway). Scherff and Donnal both suffered serious injuries in 2012, but Scherff rebounded quickly and became an All-American. Donnal wasn?t as lucky, but finally got his chance to be the starter in 2014 and started every game at right tackle, limiting mistakes and showing consistent improvement. He has good initial quickness, but struggles to keep that same lateral momentum in his kickslide to cut off speed, forcing him to lunge and overextend at the waist. Donnal shows very little semblance of a punch, but takes pride in his technique and has the work ethic and attitude that makes him compatible with NFL coaches and a possible late round developmental option.A four-star offensive tackle recruit out of high school, Andrew Donnal narrowed his college choice to Michigan, Michigan State, Maryland, Virginia and Iowa, committing the Hawkeyes and redshirting in 2010. He saw limited snaps as a redshirt freshman in 2011 and filled in as a starter at right guard for three games in 2012 before suffering a season-ending injury. Donnal was a versatile back-up in 2013 as a junior as he recovered from injury, but didn?t start any games. He took over the right tackle duties as a senior and started all 13 games in 2014, earning All-Big Ten Honorable Mention honors.
Player News
05/05/2015 – The Rams then followed up on the third day by picking Iowa tackle Andrew Donnal in the fourth round and Fresno State guard Cody Wichmann in the sixth round. Donnal is yet another Rams pick that suffered a torn ACL although his was during the 2012 season. He had played in the first four games of the season and then became a starter at right guard. Early in that third start, he tore the ACL, but was able to come back to play in the season opener the next season. He didn’t start at all in 2013, but played at both guard and tackle. Last season, he started all 13 games at right tackle, and rarely missed a snap.Donnal also fits what the Rams were looking for in their linemen. After being asked to describe himself, he said, “I view myself as a blue-collar grinder. I’m a guy that’s going to come out and work my ass off every day to be the best that I can possibly be. I thoroughly enjoy juts playing football, being an offensive lineman and moving the guy from point A to point B against his will. Protecting the quarterback and mauling inside. There’s nothing better.” As Fisher said of the draft haul, “It’s been a long time coming, particularly because of the needs. After Todd, our focus went to the big guys. All of them finish; that’s the thing we really like. They’re downfield, they’re pushing people over piles, they’re aggressive and they’re finishing. As Les (general manager Les Snead) said about Cody, ‘If you’re somewhere in the vicinity, he’s gonna hit you.’ There’s some contact involved, and that’s the mindset that we need to carry forward. But it’s also not something that we have to teach; it’s the way they play right now.” When it was suggested that the Rams made as many choices as they did on the line hoping that some work out, Fisher took exception to that notion. “We didn’t throw darts now,” he said. “We think these guys can play.” – The Sports Xchange
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Andrew Donnal to St. Louis Rams: Full Draft-Pick Breakdown
By Steven Gerwel , Featured Columnist May 2, 2015Share
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2451371-andrew-donnal-to-st-louis-rams-full-draft-pick-breakdownThe final day of the 2015 NFL draft is underway. With the No. 119 pick in the fourth round, the St. Louis Rams selected Iowa offensive lineman Andrew Donnal.
St. Louis’ strategy for this draft was to repair the offense, particularly the offensive line and run game. Without a doubt, the Rams have delivered.
They used the No. 10 pick on elite running back Todd Gurley. That was St. Louis’ luxury pick, and Gurley finally gives Jeff Fisher a true workhorse back. What Eddie George was to Fisher’s Tennessee Titans, Gurley will be expected to be for the Rams.
However, the Gurley pick will be wasted if the run blocking does not improve. For that reason, St. Louis has used the majority of its picks on linemen.
The team grabbed Wisconsin tackle Rob Havenstein in Round 2 and Louisville lineman Jamon Brown in the third round.
Donnal is yet another guy capable of stepping in and competing for playing time in training camp.
The Rams also selected quarterback Sean Mannion in Round 3, so this draft has been entirely dedicated to the offense.
As much as that must kill a defensive coach like Fisher, it was a necessary strategy.
How Andrew Donnal Fits in With the Rams
The selections of Havenstein and Brown were all about finding immediate contributors capable of boosting the ground game.
Both players will step in and immediately create run lanes for Gurley and Tre Mason. With no elite receivers and a mediocre passing attack, the Rams will need a high-end rushing game to become competitive on offense.
Still, the Rams were in need of a guy capable of keeping new Rams quarterback Nick Foles upright. Donnal should be that guy.
He is not a mauler in the run game. He’s not incompetent in that area, but he lacks the raw strength and athleticism to push around NFL defensive linemen.
On the plus side, he possesses great size (6’6″, 313 pounds) and uses his mechanics to best defenders. He’s a capable pass-blocker and doesn’t get overrun by pass-rushing ends. He’ll keep Foles upright and clean.
Donnal will require some development before he’s totally confident at the NFL level, but that’s not a major issue.
He was a 13-game starter at right tackle for Iowa last season. He doesn’t have much starting experience prior to 2014, but he received playing time at both tackle and guard before taking over as a starter.
Havenstein will take over the right tackle position. As a second-round pick, he’ll be expected to step in and start from day one.
As for the opening at left guard, it’s likely that Donnal and Brown will duke it out. Brown has more experience than Donnal and should be the favorite, but that will be settled on the practice field.
David J. Phillip/Associated Press
Initial Reaction and Grade for Donnal Pick
The Rams are returning just two starters from the 2014 line (Greg Robinson, Rodger Saffold). Drafting a third offensive lineman might seem like overkill, but it really isn’t. It was a necessary blueprint for this year’s draft.
The Rams cannot simply assume that Havenstein and Brown will excel and immediately develop into starters. There’s strength in numbers, so St. Louis knew it had to add another lineman to increase competition.
Also, it’s not about the starters alone. The Rams are also in need of depth on the line. Even if Donnal doesn’t win a starting job, he’ll provide some promising depth.
The St. Louis offensive line has been held back in recent years by injured and aging veterans. The Rams needed young, healthy bodies for the offensive line, and they’ve accomplished that.
Grade: A-
May 15, 2015 at 6:03 am #24595AgamemnonParticipantMay 15, 2015 at 6:06 am #24596AgamemnonParticipantCody Wichmann to St. Louis Rams: Full Draft-Pick Breakdown
By Steven Gerwel , Featured Columnist May 2, 2015http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2451741-cody-wichmann-to-st-louis-rams-full-draft-pick-breakdown
The St. Louis Rams are clearly revamping the entire offensive line. With the No. 215 pick in the sixth round, they added Fresno State guard Cody Wichmann.
The Rams are simply fed up with their underperforming offensive line. Since Jeff Fisher’s arrival, the team has been relying on aging veterans (Scott Wells, Jake Long, Davin Joseph) and players with known injury issues (Rodger Saffold).
St. Louis is tired of having half of its offensive line on the injury report by Week 7. In response to this issue, the Rams decided to grab numerous young and healthy linemen in the draft.
They drafted Rob Havenstein of Wisconsin in the second round, followed by Louisville’s Jamon Brown in the third. The team then selected Iowa tackle Andrew Donnal in Round 4.
Apparently, those three players were not enough to satisfy the Rams. The team opted for Wichmann, and it would be wise to assume the Rams will sign multiple rookie free-agent linemen.
The first three linemen drafted were tackles. Brown and Donnal have the potential to play guard, but all three players are better suited as tackles.
Wichmann differs from those three guys since he’s a natural interior guy.
We can’t say for sure that St. Louis has finally fixed its line. However, no one can say it didn’t try.
How Wichmann Fits in with the Rams
As mentioned, Wichmann is a pure interior guy. Guard was a huge need entering the draft, so he was a solid selection.
Havenstein is strictly a right tackle. And as a second-round pick, he’ll be expected to become the Day 1 starter. He won’t be handed the job, but it’ll be a monumental disappointment if he’s not in the starting lineup early on.
With Havenstein on the right edge, that means Brown, Donnal and Wichmann will duke it out over the left guard position.
All three players have experience at tackle, but guard is the bigger need. Greg Robinson will man the left tackle spot, and Saffold will step in at right guard. However, left guard is wide open.
Utilizing the “strength in numbers” strategy with offensive linemen not only creates competition but gives St. Louis depth.
The rookies who fail to earn starting jobs will still be useful as backups. Given the number of injuries the line has suffered in recent years, that’s an important advantage.
Wichmann isn’t as talented physically as his three rookie counterparts, so he’ll likely begin his year as a backup. He isn’t a vicious run-blocker and lacks elite athleticism, but he’s a strong guy who holds his own in pass protection. He’ll need development in the run game, but he’ll keep the quarterback upright.
Initial Reaction and Grade for Wichmann Pick
With three offensive linemen already selected, it would be foolish to state that the Wichmann pick was surprising in any way. The Rams decided to go all-out on the line, so every pick had the potential to be a new lineman.
Many assumed that free agent Joe Barksdale would have re-signed by now, or that the Rams would have inked one or two outside free agents.
When neither of those things happened, it became clear that St. Louis was in a tough position. It wasn’t hard to predict that the Rams would grab numerous linemen.
Rams fans should be thankful the team ignored the common consensus and passed on a lineman in Round 1 for Todd Gurley. Had that not happened, this would have been one boring draft.
While Wichmann isn’t expected to start immediately, he’ll push the other linemen and provide a safety net. He was a smart pickup.
Grade: B
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