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  • November 22, 2019 at 11:47 am #108488
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    NYtimes:

    November 22, 2019 at 12:11 pm #108489
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    To me, this is yet another bit of lazy, incredibly trivial reporting, as well as another case of strange bedfellows.

    I looked up the NYT article, and it’s in their Style Section, under the heading of On the Runway. What do they expect? Detailed political analyses of policy from that section? And to make it sound like this is the view of the NYT is incredibly disingenuous. It’s like saying an article in the Sports section, critical of this or that NFL player, is the view of the entire NYT.

    On the Runway
    Tulsi Gabbard’s White Pantsuit Isn’t Winning

    The Democratic presidential candidate has made white the staple of debate night appearances. It leaves a chill.

    Second point:

    One of her guests, Patrice Onwuka, is from the Independent Women’s Forum, a seriously conservative, anti-feminist, “free market” think tank, that started as a group defending Clarence Thomas during his hearings.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Women’s_Forum

    Again, very strange bedfellows in the Trump era.

    November 22, 2019 at 12:14 pm #108490
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    When you get the time, would enjoy reading your response to my follow-up post in the Obama thread. I think it’s a clarification worth pursuing.

    Hope all is well.

    November 22, 2019 at 3:02 pm #108494
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    Well I didnt check but i suspected it was in their style section. But I still think it reflects something about the Times. I dont think its an accident they blasted Tulsi’s fashion sense. I think the Times reporters know who they are supposed to target and who they are supposed to support. I assume its not direct orders from the top. Nothing that crude and blunt. But they know. Etc.

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    November 22, 2019 at 4:03 pm #108496
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    wv wrote:

    Well I didnt check but i suspected it was in their style section. But I still think it reflects something about the Times. I dont think its an accident they blasted Tulsi’s fashion sense. I think the Times reporters know who they are supposed to target and who they are supposed to support. I assume its not direct orders from the top. Nothing that crude and blunt. But they know. Etc.

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    The attack was absurd. I agree with the panel about that. I just think it’s disingenuous for Ball to frame it as if it were an NYT editorial position, politically.

    You may be right, though. It may be a top down thing. But that’s conjecture at best. Should we be fighting absurdity via conjecture? Or should we strive for solid ground instead?

    Anyway, as always, I appreciate your responses, and you putting up with me being a nudge.

    ;>)

    I keep telling myself I’m gonna stop this, and just let things be. Go back to my old apolitical self, listen to music, read, etc. And then I fall off my own wagon, so to speak.

    It’s all Joe Kapp’s fault!!

    November 22, 2019 at 4:38 pm #108498
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    Well, my view is definitely conjecture; i cant prove it. But my conjecture is based on the NYT doing that kind of thing over and over again. Propaganda model stuff.
    I think it filters down to the ‘Style Section’ and every other section.

    I’m gonna take a break from arguing-politics for a while. I shall think about science, books, rams, and baby Octopi, for a while 🙂

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