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September 2, 2015 at 12:50 pm #29725znModerator
Throwing the Penalty Flag on Jeff Fisher
Bernie Miklasz
http://www.101sports.com/2015/09/02/throwing-the-penalty-flag-on-jeff-fisher/
It happens every training camp: the media gathers around Rams coach Jeff Fisher, asks about his team’s high penalty count from the previous season, then waits for an answer that’s as predictable as a Rams’ false start.
Penalties are a point of emphasis this summer.
The coaches are working on it, driving the point home to the players. Clean it up.
No more idiotic penalties. It’s costing us first downs, points, field position, and third-down stops by our defense.We won’t have this. It’s time to change.
“Our focus has been on reducing the penalties and so we want to execute,” Fisher said earlier in camp. “We want to avoid penalties. We want to avoid the line of scrimmage things and the things that have victimized us in years past. Hopefully, our emphasis here on the practice field will carry over.”
It sounds good, except for a couple of things.
One, the Rams never really reduce their penalty totals in a significant way.
Second, Fisher frequently complains about the incorrect calls, the bad calls, that unfairly hurt his team.In Saturday’s preseason-game loss to Indianapolis, the Rams were penalized seven times for 60 yards in the first half and lost a chance to establish efficiency and momentum by having big plays nullified. They were hit with 10 infractions (and 83 penalty yards) overall. Through three exhibition games the Rams have been racked up 229 yards in accepted penalties _ or 114 yards more than opponents.
As he often does, Fisher sounded off on the officiating, saying he disagreed with “70 percent” of the calls made against the Rams. He later dropped that estimate to 40 or 50 percent.
Obviously, all teams get flagged unfairly at times. NFL officials do a very good job but make some mistakes. It’s the human element. But the undisciplined Rams certainly make more mistakes than the officials, and Fisher’s teams have a history of getting flagged for an excessive number of penalties.
Because of this clear pattern, it’s difficult for me to have empathy for Fisher. When you see a Fisher-coached team listed among the worst offenders every season in the penalty count, the lack of discipline is an ongoing problem. The penalty epidemic isn’t on the refs; it’s on Fisher. So we have to throw a flag on him.
Here are some numbers:Over Fisher’s 16 full seasons as head coach of Houston/Tennessee, his teams had the fifth-highest penalty count in the NFL, were second for most penalty yards, and third for the most first downs given to an opponent via penalty. Opponents had 160 fewer penalties and 1,429 fewer penalty yards than the Oilers-Titans _ and picked up 91 more first downs than Fisher’s squad via accepted penalties.
Over Fisher’s first three seasons as Rams’ head coach, the Rams have been penalized more than any other NFL team, and have piled up the most penalty yards. As for giving opponents first downs on penalties, the Rams were the second-worst in this category between 2012-2014. Opponents had 76 fewer penalties, 508 fewer penalty yards, and received 25 more first downs than the Rams because or penalties.
Combing the Houston/Tennessee seasons with the St. Louis years, here’s what you get:
Fisher’s teams were slapped with 236 more penalties than their opponents.
Fisher’s teams were flagged for 1,937 more penalty yards than opponents.
Fisher’s teams received 116 fewer first downs via penalties than opponents.Focusing on the STL seasons, this is a big deal. The Rams play a lot of close games, and are 20-27-21 under Fisher. Over the three seasons the Rams have been outscored by 95 total points, an average of just under 2 points per game. These self-inflicted penalties have repercussions. A team like the Rams that generally plays tight, low-scoring games can’t afford to have potential scoring drives killed by penalties, and they can’t allow opponents to keep offensive possessions going by handing them free first downs via penalty.
The Rams’ penalty deficit really can make a difference between winning or losing. And in the Rams’ frustrating quest to finish with a winning record and make the playoffs, they’ll only continue to undermine themselves with a blizzard of penalty flags.
Thanks for reading…
September 2, 2015 at 12:59 pm #29726AgamemnonParticipantSeptember 2, 2015 at 1:14 pm #29727joemadParticipantteams with most penalties last year… #1 Seattle….#2 was New England.
September 2, 2015 at 1:18 pm #29728znModeratorPosters on this board and other boards have gone much deeper into the “penalty effect”.
I think we were even reaching the point where we were narrowing it down to WHICH penalties are costly, and which are not as much.
I often post Miklasz with a heavy-hearted sense of mere obligation. “Yeah, well, I guess I should post this…”
September 2, 2015 at 2:17 pm #29730wvParticipantI’m less interested in the numbers themselves
than in WHY Fisher teams are always in the top five
most penalized teams every year.I mean…why is that?
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vSeptember 2, 2015 at 2:28 pm #29731PA RamParticipantOkay–I’m going to be one of THOSE fans.
I believe the Rams HAVE been treated unfairly by the refs. No idea what it is. Maybe they hate Fisher. Don’t know. But the discrepancy is real. While Seattle may have led the league with the Patriots in the #2 spot–not all penalties are equal. Some penalties are called when the game is already decided–useless “make-up” calls.
And there are the obvious calls NOT made–the holding on Quinn for example.
So—it’s not something I can prove but Bernie would have a hard time convincing me otherwise.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
September 3, 2015 at 1:05 am #29748znModeratorFocusing on the Rams penalties on the OL, I think they happen for all the obvious reasons: sometimes lack of confidence because of re-shuffled lines (mostly due to injuries), sometimes youngsters who are too young, and so on. I don’t see that as coaching because both Boudreau and Fisher have fielded good lines before the Rams. The Rams OL can lose confidence in a game. To me when you lose confidence you start pressing. Saffold himself directly said that once about all his penalties in 2011. I think the false starts and holding calls will diminish the more the line settles.
What I can’t stand are those kinds of stupid penalties where the Rams are at the forefront.
Here all high rankings are bad–it’s the teams that did it the most. Lower rankings are good. These are undigested numbers and so rough indicators (a detailed, more accurate account would go by avg. penalties per game, not total numbers).
On the OL: they are 2nd in offensive holding and 8th in false starts.
They are tied for 1st in unsportsmanlike conduct and tied for 1st in delay of game, 1st in offensive pass interference, 8th in unnecessary roughness, 10th in neutral zone infraction, 8th in roughing the passer, and 8th in taunting.
To me that last group of penalties has to do with just being stupid in various different ways. I think we all feel that their “chippy” demeanor just does not work, and many of those come from that.
They are ranked low (good) in
defensive holding (24th), DPI (27th), defensive offsides (17th),
September 3, 2015 at 1:48 am #29753znModeratorOkay–I’m going to be one of THOSE fans.
I believe the Rams HAVE been treated unfairly by the refs. No idea what it is. Maybe they hate Fisher. Don’t know. But the discrepancy is real. While Seattle may have led the league with the Patriots in the #2 spot–not all penalties are equal. Some penalties are called when the game is already decided–useless “make-up” calls.
And there are the obvious calls NOT made–the holding on Quinn for example.
So—it’s not something I can prove but Bernie would have a hard time convincing me otherwise.
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Rampage2K
the timing of the penalties are maddening and game changer types… Last weeks biggest drive killer penalty was the crap call on TA, then the INT that would have a game changer was called back for defensive holding, yet no number was associated with that call and I watched it multiple times and never saw any thing close to being defensive holding on that play…. I watch other games and I just don’t see the type of calls that the Rams always seem to get…it drives me nuts!!!
There were quite a few last year that were just mind boggling….then there are the other ones that aren’t called when it is blatant…we all remember Last year when Brock was yanked to the ground by his face mask as Romo hit Dez on the 60 yard TD that changed the game
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