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December 5, 2019 at 2:00 am #108971znModerator
‘Idiot’ Sean McVay understands that Todd Gurley needs to get the ball
Rich Hammond
THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. — Sean McVay is not an idiot.
Never mind the Seahawks, 49ers or any other team. McVay’s biggest challenge this season has been in trying to convince skeptics that there’s nothing askew with running back Todd Gurley. McVay apparently is just a moronic coach who regularly forgets to call plays for his star player, one with 2,000-yard potential.
That’s essentially what McVay has been saying, sometimes in jest — like Wednesday, when he joked that the reason for Gurley’s recent increase in usage was “me not being an idiot” — but often with sincerity. Week after week, when Gurley totaled anywhere from five to 15 carries, McVay stood before reporters after the game and said that, gosh, he just didn’t do a good job of getting Gurley the ball. His bad. Sure.
It’s been almost a full year since The Great Gurley Debate started. During a game against Philadelphia on Dec. 16, 2018, something happened with Gurley’s left knee. He had 22 touches that night, a total not again matched until last month. McVay and Gurley essentially are the only two high-profile people in the organization who haven’t at least tacitly acknowledged some sort of management plan for Gurley this season.
The more pertinent question became: Was Gurley physically incapable of handling major carries, or were the Rams preserving him early in the year with designs on a late-season workload push?
Welcome to judgment day. The Rams, for all practical purposes, need a victory Sunday night against Seattle at the Coliseum to keep their wild-card playoff hopes alive. Their best path to victory, as evidenced by the Rams’ five games against the Seahawks under McVay, is to give the ball to Gurley.
The Rams have a 3-2 record against Seattle since the start of the 2017 season. In the three victories, Gurley averaged 19.7 carries and 116.3 yards. In the two losses, he averaged 14.5 carries and 47.0 yards.
Teams usually throw the ball more when they’re trailing, but it’s not as though the Rams got blown out in either defeat. They lost 16-10 early in the 2017 season, then lost 30-29 this October in what was a close game throughout. Gurley had 15 carries while quarterback Jared Goff attempted 49 passes.
The Rams need to ride Gurley on Sunday. The Seahawks are far from porous when it comes to run defense, but they do rank in the bottom third of the league in yards against per carry. And they have allowed 13 rushing touchdowns this season, tied for third-most in the league.
Seattle also has had trouble covering tight ends, but given the still-uncertain status of Gerald Everett — the Rams’ top downfield threat at tight end who missed last week’s game with a knee injury and was listed as “did not participate” in Wednesday’s walk-through — the Rams would be wise to ride Gurley.
But can they? Gurley had 25 carries and three receptions against Chicago in a 17-7 home win on Nov. 17. The following week, he totaled only nine touches in a 45-6 blowout loss to Baltimore. But don’t read too much into that Ravens game, which was an out-of-whack outing for pretty much every Rams player and coach. Last Sunday against Arizona, Gurley had 19 carries and one reception before he left the 34-7 victory early in the fourth quarter.
Gurley has not recorded at least 20 touches in consecutive games since early November 2018. The three-time Pro Bowler, who typically speaks with reporters on Thursdays, was not available for comment on Wednesday, but those around him insist that he’s ready for a major role against Seattle and is capable of executing it.
“I think we just want to continue to establish the run, for sure,” Goff said. “I think that’s definitely part of what we want to do — always has been, always will be. He’s a big part of that, and as long as he’s playing running back for us, I expect that to be the case. He’s doing a good job, and I think he’s excited for it.”
Gurley has not recorded a 100-yard game this season, although he certainly would have Sunday if the Rams kept him in during the fourth quarter. Gurley finished with 95 yards and averaged 5.0 yards per carry for only the third time this year. Gurley also had a 20-yard reception, his second-longest of the season.
The Rams totaled 132 yards on the ground, their most since 166 in the season opener at Carolina.
“I think the most important factor in that question is that we’ve had efficiency when we have run the ball,” run-game coordinator Aaron Kromer said. “When you have efficiency, you can hand it to the running back again because it is second-and 4, second-and-6. You might have gotten a first down, and now you’re in a situation where you can hand the ball off again or have a hard play-action fake.
“That’s when the games have not worked in our favor that way. We haven’t been able to do that. I don’t think there’s ever been a choice not to give someone the ball. It was a choice that the game brought upon us as it unfolded.”
This is interesting, and not something previously mentioned by a Rams coach. The Rams this season are averaging 4.37 yards per carry when they run the ball in first-and-10 situations. That’s 13th-best in the league. A year ago, they averaged 5.5 yards on first-and-10 runs. However, in 2017, the Rams averaged only 4.36 yards on first-and-10 runs, so that’s not the only answer to the run-game problem.
Kromer probably is onto something here, though. Last week against the Cardinals, the Rams averaged 5.25 yards on first-and-10 runs. That set up, as Kromer mentioned, a lot of play-action attempts, and the Cardinals bit hard on a lot of them. For the first time in a long time, the Rams offense looked like its former, productive self, with solid balance and the opposing defense kept off-balance.
What does that mean for this week? The Seahawks allow an average of 3.94 yards on first-and-10 runs, which is pretty solid. If they can maintain that success against the Rams, particularly early in the game, McVay will need to avoid the temptation to go away from the run, as sometimes happens with him.
“You don’t want to make the same mistakes that you ended up making earlier on in the season,” McVay said, in part referencing the Rams’ loss to Pittsburgh, in which Gurley vanished in the fourth quarter even though he’d been running well.
So yes, there are times when McVay’s self-criticism is valid. Gurley’s usage is not one of those times. Even Goff grinned and rolled his eyes Wednesday when McVay’s “idiot” comment was relayed — “He’s being hard on himself,” Goff said — and the truth about Gurley’s situation probably will never get fully revealed.
McVay did push back against one idea, though — one that suggested the Rams, as part of strategy, limited Gurley early in the season so that he would be fresh for December.
“No, no, it has nothing to do with that,” McVay said. “It was really just, you’re just kind of working through the 2019 season — the best way to utilize all of our players and figuring out what our identity is. I think we’re still working through that, but (it) didn’t have anything to do with (load management). Shoot, we’re just trying to win a game. So, certainly it wasn’t ever with the mindset of looking ahead before anything was accomplished.”
December 5, 2019 at 2:46 am #108972znModeratorRams coach Sean McVay ‘not being an idiot,’ using running back Todd Gurley more
Lindsey Thiry
THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. — Todd Gurley’s role in the Los Angeles Rams’ offense has recently increased.
The reason, according to Rams coach Sean McVay, is quite simple.
“Me not being an idiot,” McVay said Wednesday.
The Rams have sputtered through a 7-5 season as McVay has been hesitant to commit to the run and eager to rely on the passing game. Gurley, once the focal point of McVay’s offense, has been relegated to a role player, sharing a portion of his workload with backups Malcolm Brown and Darrell Henderson Jr.
Until recently, that is.
Last Sunday, in a 34-7 win over the Arizona Cardinals, Gurley rushed for 95 yards and a touchdown in 19 carries. Two weeks earlier, Gurley tied a season high as he rushed for 97 yards in a season-best 25 carries in a 17-7 win over the Chicago Bears.
Gurley had at least 100 scrimmage yards in two of his past three games. The only other game he accumulated more than 100 scrimmage yards this season was in a Week 1 win over the Carolina Panthers.
“He’s done a nice job handling a bigger workload,” McVay said.
That should come as no surprise given Gurley is a two-time All Pro and three-time Pro Bowl selection, whom the Rams awarded a record-breaking four-year, $60 million extension, with $45 million in guarantees, before last season.
Quarterback Jared Goff chuckled when told that McVay called himself an idiot in regard to Gurley’s usage.
“He’s being hard on himself,” Goff said about McVay. “We all want to get Todd involved as much as possible. I think these last couple of weeks we’ve seen that, and good things tend to happen.”
McVay pointed to the Rams’ Week 10 loss to the Steelers as a wake-up call when it comes to Gurley, who was averaging 6.1 yards per carry but was kept on the sideline early in the fourth quarter, despite the Rams trailing 14-10. By the time Gurley was inserted late in the game, it was too late to utilize the run and the Rams lost 17-12.
“The Steelers game stands out in terms of where we were running the football well and you didn’t really give him a chance to get back going based on how that thing played out,” McVay said. “You always try to learn from your previous experiences.”
McVay denied Wednesday, as he has throughout the season, that Gurley has been on any sort of load management program.
“It has nothing to do with that,” McVay said. “It was really just, you’re just kind of working through the 2019 season — the best way to utilize all of our players and figuring out what our identity is.”
In 11 games, Gurley has averaged 58 yards in 14 carries, down from the 89 yards in 18 carries that he averaged in 2018, when he rushed for 1,251 yards and 17 touchdowns.
Gurley has rushed for 642 yards and 8 touchdowns and has caught 22 passes for 134 yards and a touchdown. He has yet to rush for more than 100 yards in a single game, something he accomplished six times in 2018.
December 5, 2019 at 3:42 pm #108982wvParticipantSigh. I will never quite come to terms with this BS about Gurley. He’s got a knee problem. Just say it. What is the point of all this lying.
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vDecember 5, 2019 at 4:50 pm #108985znModeratorSigh. I will never quite come to terms with this BS about Gurley. He’s got a knee problem. Just say it. What is the point of all this lying.
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vMy guess? Gurley has made it clear he does not want it talked about. No matter where it takes them they will just respect that.
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December 5, 2019 at 5:49 pm #108991znModeratorRams could again turn to Todd Gurley in crucial home game against NFC West rival Seahawks
GARY KLEIN
Since becoming the Rams coach in 2017, Sean McVay never has shied from accountability. He protectively falls on the sword for every miscue or poor performance by players, saying it was his fault for not putting them in better positions.
But as the play-caller, his limited use of running back Todd Gurley during the first half of the season indisputably was McVay’s error — and his alone — to own.
He all but did so Wednesday when asked what precipitated Gurley’s increased usage of late.
“Me not being an idiot?” McVay said.
Three days earlier against the Arizona Cardinals, McVay’s offense finally resembled the balanced, big-play units that dominated opponents most of his first two seasons.
He put the ball in Gurley’s hands, giving quarterback Jared Goff time to pass for two touchdowns and massive amounts of yardage in a victory that improved the Rams’ record to 7-5 and kept alive their chances for a third consecutive playoff berth.
As the Rams prepare for Sunday’s game against the NFC West-leading Seattle Seahawks, all indications are that McVay will stick to a plan that worked against the Cardinals and mostly worked wonders during a run to the playoffs in 2017 and to the Super Bowl last season.
“You don’t want to make the same mistakes that you ended up making earlier on,” McVay said.
How McVay would manage the left-knee issue that sidelined and slowed Gurley late last season has hung over the organization since the Rams’ 13-3 Super Bowl defeat by the New England Patriots.
During the offseason, the Rams re-signed running back Malcolm Brown and drafted Darrell Henderson. Both have rotated into games with Gurley. But McVay said Gurley’s limited use early in the season was not an attempt at load management to keep him fresh for a potential playoff run.
“It has nothing to do with that,” he said.
Does McVay really think he was an idiot for not using Gurley more?
Rams running back Todd Gurley rushes the football past Arizona Cardinals middle linebacker Jordan Hicks during the second half at State Farm Stadium on on Sunday in Glendale, Ariz.
Rams running back Todd Gurley rushes the football past Arizona Cardinals middle linebacker Jordan Hicks during the second half at State Farm Stadium on on Sunday in Glendale, Ariz.(Getty Images)
“There’s some instances where, certainly, you look back and it’s always hindsight in terms of, ‘What can you do?’” McVay said.The low point — or perhaps the awakening — came Nov. 10 when Gurley did not touch the ball during the fourth quarter of a 17-12 defeat by the Pittsburgh Steelers. The loss dropped the Rams’ record to 5-4 and put them teetering on the verge of elimination from playoff contention.
“The Steelers game stands out in terms of where we were running the football well and you didn’t really give him a chance to get back going based on how that thing played out,” McVay said.
The next week, Gurley carried a season-high 25 times for 97 yards and a touchdown in a 17-7 victory over the Chicago Bears. The Baltimore Ravens and quarterback Lamar Jackson made Gurley and the Rams’ offense moot in a 45-6 rout before McVay returned to a winning formula against the Cardinals.
Gurley carried the ball 19 times for 95 yards and a touchdown. Goff, benefiting from play-action opportunities, passed for 424 yards as the Rams rolled up a season-best 549 yards against the Cardinals and their league-worst defense.
A successful rushing attack, especially on first down, sets up play-action and other opportunities, Goff said.
“You’ve seen in the past,” he said, “when we’re operating at a high level is when we’re doing that and we need to continue to do it.”
In a league that has progressively emphasized passing, the Ravens (10-2), Seahawks (10-2), and San Francisco 49ers (10-2) have made strong running games and strong defenses the cornerstones of their success.
The Ravens rank first, Seahawks second and 49ers third in rushing.
Seahawks coach Pete Carroll is not surprised, and he has not been tempted to change.
“I’ve always felt like this is the way that gives you the best chance to stay on top and get on top,” Carroll said Wednesday during a teleconference. “I just think from the history of ball that this is the best formula and it’s the best way to have your quarterback play at a high level, which is so crucial.
“It’s the best way for your team to have a complementary effect on your defense.”
No argument from McVay.
“Those teams are also efficient when they decide to throw the football — I think it goes hand-in-hand,” he said. “They can control the clock, they have really good defenses that are opportunistic to take the ball away.”
The Rams will try to do the same on Sunday against the Seahawks.
Their playoff fate could depend on it.
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