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November 20, 2014 at 1:35 am #12205znModerator
Rams defense becoming physical force
By Jim Thomas
It may not have been the key play of the game, but it certainly set the tempo. On the very first play for Peyton Manning and the Denver offense last Sunday, defensive end Robert Quinn scooted around Broncos left tackle Ryan Clady and knocked Manning to the ground. Hard.
Clady got a holding penalty on the play; the hit on Manning altered the course of the pass, which fell incomplete.
It was as if Quinn, on behalf of the entire St. Louis defense, was leaving a calling card: “How’s it going Peyton? This is the kind of afternoon it’s going to be.”
By the end of the 22-7 Rams victory, the pass-rush had accounted for 17 quarterback hurries, six QB hits, and two sacks. Although he didn’t get a sack, Quinn accounted for four of those hurries and four of those hits.
Quinn can’t remember exactly what play, but later in the game, he got Manning with another one of those QB hits.
“I just smiled and he looked at me and kind of smiled,” Quinn said. “He’s one of the best to ever play. I don’t want to put words in his mouth, but I think it was just kind of a respect factor.”
As if Manning was saying to Quinn: “You again?”
It was that kind of day for the Rams’ defense. When Quinn, Aaron Donald, William Hayes, and blitzing linebacker James Laurinaitis weren’t buzzing around Manning, linebacker Alec Ogletree and safeties T.J. McDonald and Rodney McLeod were wreaking havoc on the back end.
Winning locker rooms joke around, and so it was that McLeod got the business from his teammates about his third-quarter hit that ended wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders’ day.
“These guys around here are jokesters,” McLeod said. “They’re calling me ‘Assassin,’ ‘Murderer,’ everything.”
But McLeod quickly added, “I’m glad to see that Emmanuel Sanders is OK.”
McLeod also was glad to see that there was no correspondence from the National Football League in his locker stall on Wednesday. That’s usually the day players are notified if they have been fined.
“I think they’ve already passed out all the fines,” McLeod said, smiling. “So nothing came to my locker.”
McLeod was flagged for unnecessary roughness during the game, but the apparent lack of a fine was the league’s way of saying it was a clean hit.
“I think so,” McLeod said. “When you actually go back and review the tape, I think you could just see that I leveled my shoulder and (didn’t lead) with my helmet.”
At 5-10, 195, McLeod is on the small side for a safety and isn’t necessarily known as a big hitter. Perhaps playing alongside McDonald, and now Mark Barron, is rubbing off. Both are known as thumpers.
“Those are bigger guys,” McLeod said. “But even though I’m a little smaller, I still have to let ’em know that I can hang with them.”
By the way, McLeod says he doesn’t want a nickname.
“I was just out there trying to make a play,” he said.
When all is said and done, the Rams’ defense is literally hitting its stride — and anything else in its path. Over the past few weeks, defensive coordinator Gregg Williams’ unit has become a physical force. For opposing quarterbacks, especially ones with sore ribs such as Philip Rivers of Sunday’s foe, San Diego, this isn’t a defense you want to be playing right now.
“We’ve been somewhat consistent,” coach Jeff Fisher said. “We’re playing very hard. We’ve been efficient against the run, (getting) some turnovers, pressuring the passer. We have to keep doing that. You can’t afford at this time of the year to have an off-day defensively.”
Consistency has been AWOL at Rams Park for years, especially with such a young team. Just as Fisher seems to have a way of bringing the Rams back after a tough loss, he tries to keep them level-headed after a big victory. He’s had much less practice at the latter.
A few good performances doesn’t mean this defense has arrived. Fisher has been around this game too long to fall into that trap. So about as far as he would go on the subject Wednesday was this:
“The production that we got out of our defense last week was very good,” he said. “We have to continue that.”
Good defense, he added, “It’s not an assumption. You have to go out there and do it every week.”
Team leaders such as Laurinaitis are trying to get that message across this week as well.
Speaking of the defense’s recent improvement, Laurinaitis said: “It wasn’t any magic fairy dust. We all stuck to script and just kept practicing the way we knew how to. And we’ve just gotten better results.”
While stating that the unit’s confidence should be high, Laurinaitis added that he’s not going to let this defense pat itself on the back in any way, shape or form.
“I mean, if you look, we’re still 4-6,” he said. “So that’s a below-average football team on paper. We’ve got to be able to string games (together) one at a time. And quite frankly, I’m not gonna let this team get complacent.
“We’re gonna have to come out here and really raise our expectations. Denver’s touchdown came on a busted coverage. You don’t survive very long in the NFL in games with busted coverages. Especially against a quarterback like Peyton Manning. The same with Philip Rivers.”
(Earlier this week, Fisher put the blame on the coaches for the breakdown that led to Sanders being wide open for a 42-yard touchdown. Not the players.)
Even so, top-flight defenses don’t give up “freebies” on a consistent basis. And even though the Rams are heading in that direction as a defense, they aren’t there yet. Again, you don’t get there in a few weeks. You get there doing it week after week.
November 20, 2014 at 6:21 am #12208nittany ramModeratorMcLeod was flagged for unnecessary roughness during the game, but the apparent lack of a fine was the league’s way of saying it was a clean hit.
Penalties should be reviewable. Bad calls can have too much effect on the outcome of a game.
November 20, 2014 at 7:30 am #12209PA RamParticipantPeople have been talking about that hit at work. That was probably the hit of the year. I’m glad Sanders wasn’t seriously injured but man…what a hit. There you are, a wide receiver…laying out for the ball–all attention focused on that pigskin and WHAM! A train hits you.
I don’t see how these guys do it.
How does that not make him a little gun-shy next time?
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
November 20, 2014 at 9:25 am #12215znModerator(Earlier this week, Fisher put the blame on the coaches for the breakdown that led to Sanders being wide open for a 42-yard touchdown. Not the players.)
? I missed that.
November 20, 2014 at 9:32 am #12217DakParticipantI hadn’t heard that, either, zn.
What I have heard is more and more from Fisher about how much Quinn is being held. Fisher said that right now, the officials aren’t looking for that hold call on the outside, and they need to start paying attention to it. He says that Quinn is held much of the game, and it takes away from what the Rams are trying to do on defense (obviously). I wonder if we’ll start getting a few more calls in upcoming games.
November 20, 2014 at 9:42 am #12218ZooeyModeratorMcLeod also was glad to see that there was no correspondence from the National Football League in his locker stall on Wednesday. That’s usually the day players are notified if they have been fined.
He should check a few lockers over.
They probably fined Sims for it.
November 20, 2014 at 9:58 am #12219znModeratorThey probably fined Sims for it.
I think the really bad one was the league fining Quinn for being held so much.
November 20, 2014 at 10:47 am #12229WinnbradParticipantWhat I have heard is more and more from Fisher about how much Quinn is being held. Fisher said that right now, the officials aren’t looking for that hold call on the outside, and they need to start paying attention to it. He says that Quinn is held much of the game, and it takes away from what the Rams are trying to do on defense (obviously). I wonder if we’ll start getting a few more calls in upcoming games.
Fisher should be screaming about it. It is not only frequent, it’s blatant. Go back and watch the game. Denver’s RT could have been flagged for holding at least a dozen times. Headlocks, clotheslines, grabbing the helmet, grabbing the inside of Quinn’s shoulder pads… Gotta give the guy credit, he used every hold available.
The Rams need to make this official and contact the league. I know they can’t publicly complain about officiating, but when it’s that flagrant it has to be addressed, somehow.
If I weren’t so damn lazy, I’d put together some gifs of the holds JUST from the Denver game.
Poor Quinn…
November 20, 2014 at 3:33 pm #12244DakParticipant<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Zooey wrote:</div>
What I have heard is more and more from Fisher about how much Quinn is being held. Fisher said that right now, the officials aren’t looking for that hold call on the outside, and they need to start paying attention to it. He says that Quinn is held much of the game, and it takes away from what the Rams are trying to do on defense (obviously). I wonder if we’ll start getting a few more calls in upcoming games.Fisher should be screaming about it. It is not only frequent, it’s blatant. Go back and watch the game. Denver’s RT could have been flagged for holding at least a dozen times. Headlocks, clotheslines, grabbing the helmet, grabbing the inside of Quinn’s shoulder pads… Gotta give the guy credit, he used every hold available.
The Rams need to make this official and contact the league. I know they can’t publicly complain about officiating, but when it’s that flagrant it has to be addressed, somehow.
If I weren’t so damn lazy, I’d put together some gifs of the holds JUST from the Denver game.
Poor Quinn…
Fisher is pretty public in talking about it right now. He might be able to do this because he’s talking about an issue, and that issue, according to him, is that officials aren’t looking for this particular hold due to where they’re training their eyes during the play. That’s probably B.S., and it’s more likely that officials just aren’t going to call the hold almost every down. What’s interesting to me is that Quinn drew a holding call the very first play of the game. Seems like too often we see officials make a call and then swallow the whistle. The one play where they won’t do that is illegal movement before the snap. Holding or pass interference shouldn’t be any different.
November 20, 2014 at 4:22 pm #12246wvParticipant… and that issue, according to him, is that officials aren’t looking for this particular hold due to where they’re training their eyes during the play. That’s probably B.S., and it’s more likely that officials just aren’t going to call the hold almost every down…
Yup.
The league aint exactly on a mission
to help defenses.And it would make a mockery of the game
to call holding every other pass play.
Quinn is just ‘too’ good, apparently.w
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