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August 4, 2014 at 6:59 pm #3278joemadParticipant
I’m taking a tour of the stadium on Sept 20th and I scored tix for the RAM/SF game this year in Santa Clara, i’ll let you folks know my thoughts on the place, I know the area very well, I grew up in SC ……………
some of my friends that have taken tours have been disappointed … they’re not overly impressed with Levi Stadium.
BTW, A buddy of mine attended the Earthquakes game this weekend and he also took a tour of the stadium earlier this month….. he bought PSLs for the 49ers and he’s disappointed with the stadium…… it took him 1 hour to finally board the light rail to get home from the soccer game……he’s considering to bike to football games….. He also told me that the food sucked and there’s very little reference to the 49er’s historic past…. no comparison to SF Giant’s baseball park AT$T, …………I know what my buddy means about AT&T…. Giants baseball stadium is very very very cool, last week I took my kids to see the Pirates vs Giants…. game sucked for us Giants fans, they lost 5-0, but the place is so enjoyable, that the outcome didn’t bother me as much, we stuck around until they kicked us out because AT&T is such nice place to visit…
anyway, seems Business Week seems to agree about Levi…..
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-08-04/the-san-francisco-49ers-new-stadium-is-a-dud
Levi’s Stadium during an MLS Soccer game between the Seattle Sounders FC and San Jose Earthquakes on Aug. 2 in Santa Clara, California
On Saturday night, 48,000 people showed up for a soccer game between the San Jose Earthquakes and the Seattle Sounders at the brand new Levi’s Stadium located in Silicon Valley. The soccer fans were serving as guinea pigs, helping to work out the stadium’s kinks before the really important San Francisco 49ers football fans arrive in a few weeks. For me, the big takeaway was that the Levi’s Stadium staff has plenty of work to do, and the stadium does not live up to its billing as a technological marvel at all.
For the past few months, 49ers executives have been telling anyone who would listen about all the bells and whistles that $1.3 billion buys. Levi’s Stadium has solar panels, a green roof, and Wi-Fi; people order food right to their seat via smartphone; and that’s pretty much it. Yes, Wi-Fi and cell signals often fall over in crowded places, such as stadiums, and making sure these services stay up and running through clever engineering is nice. But billing Wi-Fi as a testament to Silicon Valley’s technological mettle is embarrassing. And that green roof? It’s a tiny patch of shrubs on top of suites that I never even noticed while at the Earthquakes game.
What I did notice was that the parking lots around the stadium were at a standstill and that no one seemed to have thought through the public transportation system at all. The stadium is being fed by a light rail line that travels slowly around Silicon Valley. At the Levi’s Stadium station, thousands of people trying to access four different train lines were all funneled through the same area. Insanely, the path to get on the trains required people to walk across the tracks. As a result, the whole station had to come to a halt every time a new train arrived so that it could be filled up and then sent on its way. It typically takes me 15 minutes to drive from my house in Mountain View to the stadium. It took 90 minutes to get home by train. To get back to San Francisco, fans would then need to catch a larger train from Mountain View and ride another hour home. Things should get really exciting when the whole stadium is opened up for the 49ers and 70,000 people, or about one-third more than on Saturday.
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As the gripes rolled in Saturday night and into Sunday, stadium and public transit officials admitted their planning had not been up to snuff. They have pledged to come up with some solutions for getting people on the trains more quickly and to smooth out the parking-lot exits. I wonder how much can really be done.
The stadium itself is not an architectural gem, but it’s also not ugly. The most pleasing thing about it is the airy design that makes use of Silicon Valley’s temperate weather and mountainous surroundings. People will also find it easy to make their way through the large concourses and to find food and drinks at dozens upon dozens of different eateries, serving things that range from curry and BBQ to burgers and porchetta sandwiches. The seats are comfortable, the bathrooms are clean, and the sound system and screen are fine.
But with Levi’s Stadium, the 49ers had a chance to make a real statement. The team had shifted from the old, decrepit Candlestick Stadium, caught in a no-man’s-land between San Francisco and the monied suburbs of Silicon Valley. The 49ers could have built something as beautiful at AT&T Park—something with character and unique architectural elements. Instead, they built something that is nice, functional, and unspectacular. Wasn’t the whole point of Levi’s Stadium to appeal to the ultrarich who spend their days immersed in technological wonder?
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Maybe in the years ahead we’ll get a direct Hyperloop line from San Francisco to the stadium or some augmented reality overlays for the field. Until then, it’s football inside of a new building, with the biggest “disruption” being the astronomical cost of a beer.
August 4, 2014 at 8:42 pm #3293c1ramParticipantWell, I’d say comparing football stadiums to baseball stadiums is always tough – baseball with it’s various dimension options and diamond shape field can has the opportunity to be architecturally inspiring. I know of few football stadiums – I can’t even think of names – that compare to a Fenway Park, Wrigley Field, AT&T, etc. Possibly Seattle has an interesting stadium? I guess Dallas is what it’s all about but that’s not really just a stadium – it’s an event outside of football.
Here’s a review from a friend of mine:
After working the first event at the new Levi’s stadium I have some advice for those planning on attending an event:
1) Get there early, really early, on the magnitude of 3-4 hours early. Mainly because the congestion in the area is really bad, but also for the clubs (assuming your ticket allows you entry into one of them.)
2) Leave your bags locked up in the car. The NFL has a strict policy, so if you do plan on bringing your purse in make sure you check their site first, as you might need to buy an see-through NFL bag http://www.nfl.com/qs/allclear/index.jsp
3) Jump on their free wifi. It’s supposedly the most advanced wifi grid in the world. They’re saying it can handle 70,000 people tweeting at the exact same time. Pretty nuts. Speaking of Twitter, if you post tweets at the game and #LevisStadium they might post it on the jumbo tron, which is very jumbo (200 by 48 feet)
4) Download the Levi’s stadium app http://www.levisstadium.com/stadium-info/stadium-app/ It has a feature like Google maps. It knows exactly where you are and will navigate you to any concession, bathroom, store, etc. You can also order food directly to any seat in the stadium, all 69,500 of them.
5) Avoid the museum and 49er store until after the game starts; otherwise it’s a madhouse.
6) If you can afford it, buy a ticket with club access. They’re all nice. The VIP clubs are Brocade and BNY Medallion. I heard someone say the rights to a seat in these sections was $80,000 and then a few hundred a game. So if you see one on Stubhub, grab it.
7) Forget driving home, stay at Hilton right next door to the stadium. You’ll save yourself the headache of dealing with traffic.
Lastly, just walk around and explore the place. It’s seriously one of the nicest stadiums you’ll ever see. If you don’t have club access you can always head up to the 7th floor Pepsi and Bud Light patios. They’re basically big open areas where you can hangout with friends while you pound beers and watch the game.
- This reply was modified 10 years, 4 months ago by c1ram.
August 5, 2014 at 2:04 pm #3351OzonerangerParticipantI’m taking a tour of the stadium on Sept 20th and I scored tix for the RAM/SF game this year in Santa Clara, i’ll let you folks know my thoughts on the place, I know the area very well, I grew up in SC ……………
some of my friends that have taken tours have been disappointed … they’re not overly impressed with Levi Stadium.
BTW, A buddy of mine attended the Earthquakes game this weekend and he also took a tour of the stadium earlier this month….. he bought PSLs for the 49ers and he’s disappointed with the stadium…… it took him 1 hour to finally board the light rail to get home from the soccer game……he’s considering to bike to football games….. He also told me that the food sucked and there’s very little reference to the 49er’s historic past…. no comparison to SF Giant’s baseball park AT$T, …………I know what my buddy means about AT&T…. Giants baseball stadium is very very very cool, last week I took my kids to see the Pirates vs Giants…. game sucked for us Giants fans, they lost 5-0, but the place is so enjoyable, that the outcome didn’t bother me as much, we stuck around until they kicked us out because AT&T is such nice place to visit…
anyway, seems Business Week seems to agree about Levi…..
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-08-04/the-san-francisco-49ers-new-stadium-is-a-dud
Levi’s Stadium during an MLS Soccer game between the Seattle Sounders FC and San Jose Earthquakes on Aug. 2 in Santa Clara, California
On Saturday night, 48,000 people showed up for a soccer game between the San Jose Earthquakes and the Seattle Sounders at the brand new Levi’s Stadium located in Silicon Valley. The soccer fans were serving as guinea pigs, helping to work out the stadium’s kinks before the really important San Francisco 49ers football fans arrive in a few weeks. For me, the big takeaway was that the Levi’s Stadium staff has plenty of work to do, and the stadium does not live up to its billing as a technological marvel at all.
For the past few months, 49ers executives have been telling anyone who would listen about all the bells and whistles that $1.3 billion buys. Levi’s Stadium has solar panels, a green roof, and Wi-Fi; people order food right to their seat via smartphone; and that’s pretty much it. Yes, Wi-Fi and cell signals often fall over in crowded places, such as stadiums, and making sure these services stay up and running through clever engineering is nice. But billing Wi-Fi as a testament to Silicon Valley’s technological mettle is embarrassing. And that green roof? It’s a tiny patch of shrubs on top of suites that I never even noticed while at the Earthquakes game.
What I did notice was that the parking lots around the stadium were at a standstill and that no one seemed to have thought through the public transportation system at all. The stadium is being fed by a light rail line that travels slowly around Silicon Valley. At the Levi’s Stadium station, thousands of people trying to access four different train lines were all funneled through the same area. Insanely, the path to get on the trains required people to walk across the tracks. As a result, the whole station had to come to a halt every time a new train arrived so that it could be filled up and then sent on its way. It typically takes me 15 minutes to drive from my house in Mountain View to the stadium. It took 90 minutes to get home by train. To get back to San Francisco, fans would then need to catch a larger train from Mountain View and ride another hour home. Things should get really exciting when the whole stadium is opened up for the 49ers and 70,000 people, or about one-third more than on Saturday.
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As the gripes rolled in Saturday night and into Sunday, stadium and public transit officials admitted their planning had not been up to snuff. They have pledged to come up with some solutions for getting people on the trains more quickly and to smooth out the parking-lot exits. I wonder how much can really be done.
The stadium itself is not an architectural gem, but it’s also not ugly. The most pleasing thing about it is the airy design that makes use of Silicon Valley’s temperate weather and mountainous surroundings. People will also find it easy to make their way through the large concourses and to find food and drinks at dozens upon dozens of different eateries, serving things that range from curry and BBQ to burgers and porchetta sandwiches. The seats are comfortable, the bathrooms are clean, and the sound system and screen are fine.
But with Levi’s Stadium, the 49ers had a chance to make a real statement. The team had shifted from the old, decrepit Candlestick Stadium, caught in a no-man’s-land between San Francisco and the monied suburbs of Silicon Valley. The 49ers could have built something as beautiful at AT&T Park—something with character and unique architectural elements. Instead, they built something that is nice, functional, and unspectacular. Wasn’t the whole point of Levi’s Stadium to appeal to the ultrarich who spend their days immersed in technological wonder?
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Maybe in the years ahead we’ll get a direct Hyperloop line from San Francisco to the stadium or some augmented reality overlays for the field. Until then, it’s football inside of a new building, with the biggest “disruption” being the astronomical cost of a beer.
Hey, Joe-
I scored two for the Rams game (at FV!). Section 201. Just angled off the east end zone.
My office is located on North First, just north of HWY 87. I was planning on leaving my car there and jumping on light rail for the last mile or so but after reading the nightmare that was getting out, I’m re-evaluating that strategy. The problem is not so much getting in…70,000 will do so over a few hours. It’s getting out with all those folks leaving at the same time. Think Super Bowl in NYC. I know the area well ; but getting sneaky and using side streets to hit 101 to the north or via Lafayette going south may be doused by how the authorities funnel traffic out of the parking lots. I suspect they’ll do as they did at the Stick- when they forced you to take that back road through Bayview-Hunter’s Point and back into the City to hit 101.
August 5, 2014 at 4:05 pm #3357joemadParticipantyou’re better off walking from N. 1st and 87. …… my tix include the parking pass at the tailgating lot…. I might sell the parking pass and walk from my brother’s house on the San Tomas Creek trail. All those small tech companies around the stadium will result in small gold mine for parking….
we’re in lower level sec 142, 27 rows from the field.
August 6, 2014 at 12:08 pm #3404OzonerangerParticipant“you’re better off walking from N. 1st and 87.”
Not a chance. My dad is 82. Backup plan is the golf course.
It’s good that the game isn’t until November. I’m sure all the parking\access kinks will be worked out by then.
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