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  • April 20, 2018 at 7:54 am #85268
    wv
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    Rev Left Radio:http://revolutionaryleftradio.libsyn.com/website/liberal-debate

    Rev Left Radio in Dialogue with Liberalism

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    April 20, 2018 at 11:41 am #85277
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    Lotsa things to comment about. Listened so far up to the talk about the legitimacy of the state. But the previous topic was skipped over too quickly, IMO, especially by the leftist host.

    He didn’t push back on the idea of Lockean rights to one’s own labor, in the talk about factory ownership, though I thought the lefty host would.

    To me, the logical conflict with that is: Wage labor doesn’t get to own ANYTHING they produce. Under capitalism, it’s legal to take that away from every worker and hand it over to the capitalist. The capitalist legally owns what his or her workforce produces via THEIR labor. They (the workers) own nothing that came from their own two hands.

    It surprised me that the lefty host didn’t discuss this.

    But lots of other good stuff. Will probably listen to it again this weekend.

    Would like to hear your thoughts too, WV.

    April 20, 2018 at 3:57 pm #85290
    wv
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    Billy_T wrote:

    It surprised me that the lefty host didn’t discuss this.

    But lots of other good stuff. Will probably listen to it again this weekend.

    Would like to hear your thoughts too, WV.

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    I havent actually listened to it yet, BT. I just came across the site and thot it looked inter esting.

    I’ve been skimming China Mieville’s ‘Salvage’ site also:http://salvage.zone/

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