Latest DNC reason why Hillory lost

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Zooey wrote:

Not all Republicans are racist. But the vast majority of racists are Republicans.

Perhaps. But the same can be said for black Dems. Not all black Dems are racist, but the vast majority of racists within the party are black Dems. And for the record, I refuse to accept the notion that blacks cannot be racist as is often taught in Universities. It’s gotten to the point that you can’t even say “blacks” without being labeled a racist too. FWIW, I’ve been told by several black men that they don’t identify with the “African American” label, and that’s going back years. They’re proud to be known as simply “black”. One of my superiors at work, after the subject was brought up, went so far as to say, “You’re not European American, are you?” I said, “No, because my ancestors are from Ireland.” He told me to wait until after 5 to drink, because … you know … I’m Irish. I told him to pull up his pants, because I don’t care what his underwear looks like, because … you know … he’s black. That’s the dialogue of people who don’t care about the outrage of either party over the subject of race.

That could be, but it wouldn’t surprise me if black racists don’t identify as democrat, either. And I’m not saying that to defend/protect the democrat party which I can’t stand. In any event, I wasn’t saying that to score points against the Republican party, or any partisan mud-slinging effort. I was just saying that I assume it is largely true, and that therefore Trump’s racism wasn’t really relevant to his totals. I don’t think the racist vote put him over the top.

I agree with the argument that the issue of race was not the deciding factor in this election.

PA Ram wrote:

wv wrote:

bnw wrote:

You do realize the democrats are actively expressing the desire to kill those “Racists” economy by killing the coal economy? Don’t you think that has a lot to do with their not believing democrats represent their view?

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Well i think the coal-miners hated Hillary because they thought (wrongly) she would take their guns away from them, and they hated Hillary because they figured out she was a lying weasel who cared more about bankers than coal-miners, and i think they hated her because she was going to try to manage the decline of the coal industry, and they hated her because she was pro-choice, and they voted against her because the bought into Trumpism.

They will/would be disappointed in the end, with either Trump or Hillary.

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There isn’t much of a coal economy. Natural gas is beating it. And the mining of choice these days is strip mining anyway. Those jobs are not coming back. I think that wv is right to point to other reasons for the vote. I would think that miners know the situation better than anyone. I doubt they put much stock in those jobs coming back.

No, natural gas is not beating coal. Not without the Obama EPA attacking coal at every turn. That will change soon.