Laram on Tavon

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October 28, 2014 at 10:12 am #10647

wv
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Laram

Last year Austin was used on 9 routes, drags, crosses, mis-direction, bubble screens etc.

This year not!

Why?
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The transition from Bradford to a 4th string qb hurt a lot for these young receivers, including Tavon, Britt, Givens and Quick. Bradford was starting to develop chemistry with those guys. All of these guys benefit from stretching the field, which Bradford can do. You don’t set an NFL record for consecutive 50 yard recs game and then all of a sudden can’t get deep.

Davis is not it, as I’ve said from the beginning. The clock has struck midnight. But I digress.

Tavon excelled against Carolina and Indy because he got singled with no help over the top. Think about it, in Indy Vontae Davis had him in one on one coverage both times with no help. Indy is predominantly a man coverage team.

In Carolina on the 9 that got called back, they caught them in single coverage. Teams are playing him differently now, he can’t create his on space, he’s not a great route runner, and he can’t break tackles.

Then what do you do with him? He’s not Percy Harvin or Darren Sproles who are tough runners that can break tackles.

He’s in the wrong offense. He needs a scheme and players that can open up space for him.

He cannot create his own space at this level.

The best thing the Rams could do fro themselves and Tavon is to trade him. The Saints are probably set now, but I would call every other team in the league and try and get something for him.

Do it NOW, before the trade deadline expires.

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October 28, 2014 at 10:13 am #10648

zn
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ast year Austin was used on 9 routes, drags, crosses, mis-direction, bubble screens etc.

This year not!

Why?

IMO? Davis.

October 28, 2014 at 10:22 am #10650

wv
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zn wrote:

ast year Austin was used on 9 routes, drags, crosses, mis-direction, bubble screens etc.

This year not!

Why?

IMO? Davis.

I dunno. Why cant AustinD throw some of
those kinds of passes? He’s been in the
system three years. His arm is decent enough.

w
v

October 28, 2014 at 10:39 am #10652

zn
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wv wrote:

zn wrote:

ast year Austin was used on 9 routes, drags, crosses, mis-direction, bubble screens etc.

This year not!

Why?

IMO? Davis.

I dunno. Why cant AustinD throw some of
those kinds of passes? He’s been in the
system three years. His arm is decent enough.

w
v

Notice what kinds of passes he does NOT regularly throw, though.

The signature Davis pass is high slung for taller WRs to bring down, right?

I am talking about Tavon as an outside receiver past 10 yards. This has nothing to do with the bubble screens, which are obviously not out of Davis’s or any qb’s reach.

October 28, 2014 at 12:36 pm #10653

Zooey
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Tavon Austin is starting to look like a completely blown pick.

I haven’t given up on him entirely, but he isn’t the contributor we thought we were getting after trading up to the #8 spot to draft him. He’s just a guy. Who apparently can’t get separation or break tackles. Which doesn’t bode well.

October 28, 2014 at 12:54 pm #10654
wv
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Zooey wrote:

Tavon Austin is starting to look like a completely blown pick.

I haven’t given up on him entirely, but he isn’t the contributor we thought we were getting after trading up to the #8 spot to draft him. He’s just a guy. Who apparently can’t get separation or break tackles. Which doesn’t bode well.

Yeah, I’m not happy about Tavon,
or Brockers for that matter.

But in some ways i feel pretty
optimistic about this team.

Its a weird combination of
talent and youth and boneheadness
and injury-proneness and mystery.

Bottom line though — another
year of double-digit losses.
Hard to take. Year Three,
and another year of double-digit losses.

Next year, if i am Kroenke,
Fisher HAS to win.

w
v
- This reply was modified 10 years, 1 month ago by wv.
October 28, 2014 at 2:24 pm #10660

PA Ram
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Yep. Davis likes throwing high to big tall receivers, (Britt, Quick, Cook). That’s the sort of receiver he needs. Still, I’m not sure it’s ALL Davis.

"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

October 28, 2014 at 2:57 pm #10662

OahuRam
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Need a QB to win. Despite the sometimes good play by Davis, I don’t think we can count on him as the starter next year. Can’t count on Bradford either. Drafted rookie – nope. Fisher ain’t winning next season either.

October 28, 2014 at 3:55 pm #10667

GreatRamNTheSky
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Wow, blame Austin Davis? Really.

You guys need to watch the games before blaming Davis.

You’re way the hell off base.

Grits

October 28, 2014 at 6:34 pm #10690

wv
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GreatRamNTheSky wrote:

Wow, blame Austin Davis? Really.

You guys need to watch the games before blaming Davis.

You’re way the hell off base.

Grits

Well, he’s got nine more games,
and i think most people are still
undecided on AustinD.

w
v

October 28, 2014 at 6:36 pm #10691

InvaderRam
Moderator

so. what does la think about next year’s qb class?

October 28, 2014 at 6:42 pm #10693

wv
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InvaderRam wrote:

so. what does la think about next year’s qb class?

I dunno what La thinks about QBs,
but i know what wv thinks — wv thinks
they need to fix the OLine.

Not sure they can count on Saffold.
Definitely gotta jettison Long
and Wells, imho. And Barksdale
is a free agent after this year
aint he?

w
v

October 28, 2014 at 10:14 pm #10708

InvaderRam
Moderator

and oline was supposed to be a strength this year.

October 28, 2014 at 10:52 pm #10710

Zooey
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InvaderRam wrote:

and oline was supposed to be a strength this year.

There’s actually been a couple of things that didn’t turn out right this year so far.

October 29, 2014 at 3:06 am #10728

Herzog
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A shrimp with speed in the first round…..how many times has that EVER worked out. I cant think of one

October 30, 2014 at 9:32 am #10837

zn
Moderator

Herzog wrote:

A shrimp with speed in the first round…..how many times has that EVER worked out. I cant think of one

? How many times has it been done?

October 30, 2014 at 1:20 pm #10840

Eternal Ramnation
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Warrick Dunn

October 30, 2014 at 4:14 pm #10842

wv
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Eternal Ramnation wrote:

Warrick Dunn

Well Dunn was offensive rookie of the year
and had three pro bowl appearances. So
that one worked out, i guess.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrick_Dunn

Sometimes the little speedsters dont
work out. Gaston Green. Trung. Etc.

Too early to make any hard and fast
conclusions about Tavon, for me.
But so far this year, he’s
been a disappointment and nonfactor,
obviously.

w
v

October 30, 2014 at 6:56 pm #10847

InvaderRam
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Zooey wrote:

InvaderRam wrote:
and oline was supposed to be a strength this year.

There’s actually been a couple of things that didn’t turn out right this year so far.

true dat. this season has been very different from the season i had imagined in my mind 2 months ago.
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