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August 16, 2015 at 5:12 pm #28788wvParticipant
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Laram — anybody remember the Eagles teams…of the late 80’s under Buddy Ryan?
Complete roster overhaul restocking the roster with physically talented football players.
Best front four in football which included Reggie White, Clyde Simmons, Jerome Brown a star lb in Seth Joyner, playmaking corner in Eric Allen, pro bowl level tight end in Keith Jackson…shall I go on?
A team heavy on defense with physically imposing players, who thrived on physicality and intimidation.
See any similarities in team construction?
Yeah that team never won anything either.
With the new CBA and limiting teaching time, in today’s game there is more emphasis on not only athletic players but smart players, and great teachers.
That’s where Jeff Fisher fails IMO.
August 16, 2015 at 5:18 pm #28789wvParticipantI dont remember who Ran the ball for that Eagle team?
Hopefully Gurley/Tre will help the Rams go further
than that great Eagle team.Seems pretty obvious the season will come down
to the OLine. Shocking statement, i know.w
vAugust 16, 2015 at 6:11 pm #28795znModeratorI dont remember who Ran the ball for that Eagle team?
Hopefully Gurley/Tre will help the Rams go further
than that great Eagle team.Seems pretty obvious the season will come down
to the OLine. Shocking statement, i know.w
vother teams similar in construction… 85 bears
August 16, 2015 at 8:45 pm #28800bnwBlockedI dont remember who Ran the ball for that Eagle team?
Hopefully Gurley/Tre will help the Rams go further
than that great Eagle team.Seems pretty obvious the season will come down
to the OLine. Shocking statement, i know.w
vother teams similar in construction… 85 bears
Thats the spirit! Da Bears did have sweetness though. If Gurley has that type of career with the Rams, YOWZA!
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
August 16, 2015 at 9:24 pm #28802joemadParticipantI like LA’s take on this,
Jeff Fisher was DC for Ryan in Philly, John Robinson later hired him to replace Frtitz Shurmer
Randall Cunningham led the 89 team in rushing….Keith Byars was # 3 in rushing… For 5 Eagles Trivia points… Who was #2 in rushing for Philly in 1989?
one of my favorite Ram playoff games…nobody but John Madden gave his childhood friend (John Robinson) the Rams a chance to win this game.
From wiki:
The Los Angeles Rams, ignoring the weather, the fans, and the Eagles mighty defense, rode a quick start to defeat the Eagles at Veterans Stadium, 21–7 on New Year’s Eve, 1989. The Eagles came into their first home playoff game in 8 seasons against the Los Angeles Rams with injury concerns. Several players came limping into the game, but perhaps the most concerning injury was that of Eric Allen, whose ankle had been injured a few weeks prior. Allen was an outstanding cover corner and without him, the Eagles would be forced to start reserve cornerback Izel Jenkins. The Rams at the time had a potent and versatile offense, especially in the passing game. Quarterback Jim Everett, running back Greg Bell and wideouts Henry Ellard and Willie “Flipper” Anderson rounded out the Rams offense. However, none of this seemed to concern head coach Buddy Ryan, who reportedly was asked the week leading up the game his impression of Rams running back Greg Bell. Ryan gave a curious vanilla answer to the reporter then turned and walked away saying, “Greg Bell my ass.” Most of the media that had gathered exploded in laughter.
Eric Allen, as it turned out, did not start the game, which was played on an overcast, drizzly New Year’s Eve. The Rams immediantly attacked Allen’s replacement, cornerback Izel Jenkins. Jenkins was burned on the Rams first touchdown; a 39-yard touchdown pass from Jim Everett to Henry Ellard on the Rams first possession. Jenkins was again burned for another long pass, this time to Willie Anderson and by midway through the second quarter, head coach Buddy Ryan had all but no choice to insert the limping Allen with the Rams already leading 14–0.
The Eagles offense, led by All-Pro quarterback Randall Cunningham had no answers for a unique zone implemented by Rams defensive coordinator Fritz Shurmer, who at times during the game only rushed two defenders and dropped everything back in coverage. Cunningham, while completing 24 of 40 pass, only threw underneath the zone for the majority of the game and simply was unable to get anything downfield. It certainly did not help matters not having All-Pro receiver Mike Quick unable to play due to a season-ending injury earlier in the year. The Eagles had less than 100 yards of offense at halftime, and did not have a single first down till midway through the second quarter. The Eagles first four possessions where three (3) three and outs and an interception. When the Eagles finally did score on a one-yard Anthony Toney touchdown plunge to make the game 14–7 with just under 11 minutes to go, there was hope. The Eagles defense, after their shaky start, had by and large held the Rams in check. Indeed, after the Eagles only touchdown of the afternoon, the Eagles defense held the Rams twice and gave the Eagles good field position on their next two possessions, which began at their own 31- and 40-yard lines. However, the Eagles would manage just one first down on those two possessions.
The Rams finally put the nail in the coffin with just under three minutes left, when Greg Bell ran for a 7-yard touchdown for the final score of 21–7. This touchdown run came a few plays after Bell ran 54 yards down to the 10-yard line. The Eagles defense, especially the front four, had finally collapsed after keeping the Rams in check for so long during the game.
After the game, Eagles quarterback Randall Cunningham admitted that he was confused by the Rams complex zone and stated he had never seen anything like it on film. He also pointed the need for the Eagles to acquire some speed in the wide receiving department. The fans, who did not have a beer to cry in during the game due to the Eagles banning beer sales earlier in the year due to “Bounty Bowl II”, were frustrated, wet and as gloomy as the weather leaving the stadium. The Eagles were expected to take a step forward after the previous years’ loss to the Chicago Bears in the “Fog Bowl”, but once again were bounced out in the first round.
August 16, 2015 at 10:04 pm #28803znModeratorOne thing not quite mentioned in that write-up. Shurmur’s defense that day was effectively an all LB, no DL defense on passing downs.
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The Rams entered the game with just four healthy defensive linemen, and used none of them on passing downs. Los Angeles went with five linebackers and six defensive backs on long-yardage situations and played zone defense every play.
They hardly resembled the unit that finished 21st among 28 NFL clubs in team defense and last against the pass this season.
‘It might be the first time we played exclusively zone defense,’ Rams inside linebacker Mel Owens said. ‘We had all our guys looking at Randall. We played in front of him and had a lot of guys defending him. That way, he has to stay back and read the defense.
Los Angeles’ defensive plan was designed to keep Cunningham from scrambling for big gains.
‘We knew he was a scrambler,’ said outside linebacker Kevin Greene, who had both of the Rams’ sacks. ‘If we gave him the opportunity to run and find a crease, he’d make some big plays.
‘He ran for some first downs (39 yards on 6 carries), but we did a good job of containing him.
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