relocation articles and links … 1/17 – 1/20

Sure enough, during the middle of the 1962 season, during contract negotiations with the Oakland Raiders, he blurted out, “Aw, hell, I’ll just play for nothing.” So they offered him nothing. And he accepted their offer. He played six games, living in the Long Beach area the entire time, joining the team every week just prior to kickoff, kicking the most inexpensive five field goals in the history of professional football.

wow. that’s pretty funny.

Rams will love LA, Dickerson says

Associated Press

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/rams-will-love-la-dickerson-says/article_5fb4522b-82ba-5a00-af3f-ab7448a5764c.html

LOS ANGELES • Eric Dickerson can’t wait to take his two youngest children to their first Los Angeles Rams game this fall alongside the same fans who cheered him to the greatest single-season rushing performance in NFL history.

And if the current Rams need advice on the tricky transition from Missouri to Southern California, the Hall of Fame running back has plenty.

“You’re not in St. Louis anymore,” Dickerson said with a laugh. “For all you young guys: It’s different. This is Hollywood.”

Dickerson and former quarterback Jim Everett know all about the challenges and opportunities presented to professional athletes in Los Angeles, and they say the attention will be magnified during the Rams’ high-profile return season after 21 years away.

If the Rams handle it well — and if they win — they’ll absolutely love LA.

“It’s the best to play here,” Everett said. “This is a sports mecca.”

With Kobe Bryant retiring from a terrible Lakers team and the Dodgers lacking a true superstar beyond quiet Clayton Kershaw, Rams running back Todd Gurley, receiver Tavon Austin and defensive linemen Aaron Donald and Robert Quinn are about to become some of the most popular guys in a town that loves a celebrity.

Although the Rams played home games down the road in Anaheim when Dickerson and Everett starred, they dealt with the opportunities and temptations presented in the nation’s entertainment capital and second-largest media market.

“This is a different animal, being in Los Angeles,” Dickerson said. “It just feels different, and I know what it’s like to put that uniform on. Being in LA, there’s nothing like it. It’s the glitz. It’s the glamour. It’s the beautiful girls. It’s the weather. But you’ve got to take your job serious, first of all. You’re a football player first, and all that other stuff comes secondary.”

Everett settled in Southern California after his NFL career, and the Rams’ starting quarterback from 1986-93 greeted Rams executives at their official return last week in Inglewood. He has never stopped signing autographs with an “LA Rams” postscript.

“When I was playing, we had the Lakers with Magic Johnson, we had the Dodgers, and LA loves champions,” Everett said. “There’s high standards, and the Rams are taking a big bite of the pie by moving here. They understand that level of expectation is going to go way up for all of us.”

Dickerson spent the Rams’ return week in Orlando playing in the inaugural Diamond Resorts Invitational celebrity golf tournament, a $500,000 event supporting Florida Hospital for Children. Dickerson finished just behind former Raiders running back Marcus Allen and well behind winner Mardy Fish, the former tennis pro.

But Dickerson’s thoughts were never far from the Rams. Although he made frequent appearances in St. Louis to support the franchise, he firmly believes the Rams never should have left — and he can only shake his head at what might have been.

“Imagine the Rams playing in LA when they were the ‘Greatest Show on Turf,’” Dickerson said, referring to the Super Bowl-winning St. Louis team.

“They would have had to go from practice to the studios to do movies. Everybody loves athletes. Actors want to be athletes, and athletes want to be actors. I hope it becomes like that again.”

The Rams have some work to do first: They haven’t had a winning record since 2003.

Rams, Chargers mum on details of talks after first meeting

Nick Wagoner

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14598949/los-angeles-rams-san-diego-chargers-hold-first-meeting-stadium

ST. LOUIS — On the day the Los Angeles Rams began taking deposits for season tickets for the 2016 NFL season, they engaged the San Diego Chargers in discussions about a potential partnership in their Inglewood stadium project.

The teams sent out a joint statement Monday night acknowledging they met but not offering many details.

“We have concluded our first meeting,” the statement read. “We mutually have agreed not to publicly discuss details of this or any future meeting.”

This first meeting was believed to be more of an exploratory discussion as the Chargers continue to weigh their options.

As part of the Rams’ relocation agreement approved last week by NFL owners, the Chargers have until Jan. 15, 2017, to decide whether they want to join the Rams in Los Angeles and until March 23, 2016, to declare where they will play in 2016. If the Chargers decide to stay in San Diego, the Oakland Raiders will have the opportunity to move south and join the Rams.

The Chargers have plenty to consider before making a decision, as owner Dean Spanos said at last week’s owners meetings.

“I’m going to look at all our options,” Spanos said. “I’m going to take a little bit of time here. We do have some options. It’s very difficult to say right now, ‘I’m going to do this’ or ‘I’m going to do that.'”

The NFL agreed to give the Chargers $100 million toward the construction of a new stadium in San Diego if the team can come to an agreement with the city. According to Rams owner Stan Kroenke, the Chargers have two options for joining the Rams in Inglewood, but he did not offer specifics.

“We have offered either a partnership in the stadium as an owner, or we’ve offered the lease arrangement,” Kroenke said at the owners meetings. “The teams will have their choice of those options.”

From the Rams’ perspective, getting an answer sooner rather than later would be beneficial. The relocation agreement stipulates that the Rams can’t sell personal seat licenses, suites or other high-dollar areas for the Inglewood stadium until after the Chargers’ 2017 deadline, unless a second team moves in before that date.

The Rams began accepting $100 deposits for 2016 season tickets to their games at the Los Angeles Coliseum on Monday morning.

Yeah the knucklehead quotient will be high in LA. I predict Janoris Jenkins will be the first Rams player to become all that he can be via the knucklehead quotient.

I dunno if this has been posted. Peter King.

The Six Hours That Will Shape NFL’s Second Century

By Peter King

mmqb.si.com

The owners’ decision to approve the Rams’ move to Los Angeles changed the current course of NFL history. Here’s the inside story of how and why the vote swung in favor of Stan Kroenke. Plus answers to reader email

It’s been a week since the NFL’s biggest post-season upset happened inside a Houston hotel: NFL owners voted to approve the move of the Rams from St. Louis to Los Angeles immediately, while giving the Chargers a one-year option to join the Rams or get a stadium deal done in San Diego.

But the strangest aspect of it is still being debated in some league circles: Six hours after an influential league committee handling the Los Angeles negotiations voted 5-1 to recommend to ownership that the league allow the Chargers and Raiders to move to a site in suburban Carson, the owners rebuked their own committee and voted 30-2 to allow the Rams and owner Stan Kroenke to move to Inglewood, scuttling the Carson site forever and ruining the hopes of two teams looking to Carson for long-term franchise salvation.

Those are the six hours that changed the current course of NFL history. What happened, exactly? How did so many owners who professed their love for San Diego chairman Dean Spanos turn on him—and the committee of heretofore trusted veteran owners—in the matter of one Texas afternoon?

Three answers:

1. A secret ballot, so owners who favored the Inglewood project could turn their backs on Spanos without him being sure who they were.

2. Kroenke’s jillions.

3. History repeating itself, with a rebuke of a powerful owner conjuring memories of another powerful owner slapped down a quarter-century ago by new-guard owners with different ideals.

This is not quite a tale fit for the Coen Brothers and the big screen, but if you like stories detailing the reasons why rich people make the decisions they make, it’s a fun ride.

* *

At 1:30 p.m. on Jan. 12, in the Azalea Ballroom at the Westin Houston-Memorial City, the 32 owners (or owners’ proxies) returned from lunch to hear from the six-man Committee on Los Angeles Opportunities. One of the key members, Carolina owner Jerry Richardson, had already come out strong for Spanos and the Carson project, so it was no real surprise when the full body heard the results: five votes for the Chargers and Raiders to move to Carson, one vote for the Rams only to move to Inglewood, closer to downtown L.A.

There were murmurs in the room, but the committee vote shocked no one. Art Rooney II of the Steelers gave his reasons for the majority—solving the Charger/Raider stadium problems, fixing the California stadium conundrum, helping two tradition-rich California franchises—and Kansas City’s Clark Hunt spoke for the minority. He was the minority.

“I dissented,” Hunt told The MMQB, “because I felt the NFL would be best served by having less realignment. Moving one team would be less disruptive to our fan base. And, also, having just one team in Los Angeles would give the league the best chance to be successful.”

“Clark was artful,” said someone in the room. “But it was clear what he wanted and what he thought was best.”

Right. Hunt wanted just one team in Los Angeles. And that seems most logical. Though it’s become fashionable to say two teams is the best idea and will eventually both build strong fan bases, the NFL would be asking two teams to become instantly loved when the region hasn’t had pro football for 21 years. It might happen. But it’s no lock. Hunt realized that. Privately, several owners applauded his bold stance, because they felt Richardson was trying to ramrod the Carson project through.

One point to make before moving on: During the morning meeting, when the final details of both projects were laid on the table for the owners, two owners not known for their loquacious leadership stood up to give ideas. Seattle’s Paul Allen—an E.F. Hutton type who rarely attends such meetings and more rarely speaks at them—said the owners needed to consider the project more than anything else. And Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie spoke stridently for Kroenke. Those two men influenced the room, and quite possibly portended what was to happen in the afternoon.

“Carson never had the ‘wow’ factor,” one top club official said. “The Rams’ project did. Sentiment for that project became a tsunami.”

Once the membership heard the 5-1 vote, the next step was voting on the project, with a three-quarters majority (24 votes) being required for one side to win. Commissioner Roger Goodell, who proponents of both projects told The MMQB played each proposal down the middle, nonetheless was about to do something that he knew could tangibly affect the outcome. He’d been asked by “six to eight” owners, a source said, over the previous month about the feasibility of this vote being by secret ballot. “Roger knew we had a serious split in the membership,” the source said. “He knew neither side had the votes to win. But he also felt owners needed to vote their consciences, so proposing the secret ballot was something he felt he had to propose, and it was a no-brainer after several owners asked him to do it.”

Goodell proposed it, and asked for a show of hands. A majority would rule. Asked how many favored a secret ballot, more than 17 raised their hands. (The Los Angeles Times reported the vote was 19-13.)

Why was the secret ballot so significant? The Chargers/Raiders faction felt it had between 18 and 20 votes solid entering the meeting—something the Kroenke side felt was fiction. But there was something about the Rams/Inglewood project that, while inconvenient for those who wanted the Chargers and Raiders stadium issues fixed in one fell swoop, many owners knew was better for the NFL long-term. Instantly, the 298-acre Inglewood site would be the best NFL property in the league … with $2.7-billion worth of buildings and development including a 70,240-seat stadium with translucent cover that would join the regular Super Bowl rotation; an underrated campus for a so-called “NFL West,” including a new building for NFL Network and new home for NFL Media; and a 6,000-seat theater that one day one owner said “we hope will host The Oscars.” Carson was a nice project, but it couldn’t compete with all those bells and whistles.

Ballots were printed and distributed to the 32 owners/proxies in the room. A vote was taken. It has been widely reported that the first vote was 20-12 in favor of the Kroenke/Inglewood project, then 21-11 on the next one. But one source in the room said the vote was actually 21-11 the first time, then 20-12 the second time—inexplicably. Whatever the vote was, one owner said Dean Spanos “was utterly shocked—white as a sheet” at the first vote. And he realized that it would be nearly impossible to overturn the will of the silent but overwhelming majority.

In talking to three owners in the wake of the vote, it became apparent that they were convinced Kroenke’s project, the most ambitious stadium/development project in American sports history (likely to end up costing more than $3 billion by the time it’s fully operational in 2019), was the best thing for the NFL’s second century. (The league’s 100th anniversary is in 2020.) To succeed in Los Angeles requires what one league source said was a complex akin to “L.A. Live on steroids,” referring to the Staples Center complex where the Lakers and Kings play. In other words, NFL-big. Kroenke, with his fortune in the billions, had agreed to put $1 billion into the project—money Charger and Raider owners just didn’t have.

But the vote wasn’t at 24, and there was some discussion about a potential compromise. Owners could vote for Carson. Owners could vote for Inglewood. Or owners could vote for Inglewood plus one other team, as Dallas owner Jerry Jones had suggested. Now Baltimore owner Steve Bisciotti said why not just combine B and C, Inglewood and the extra team. And because it was obvious the ownership felt Spanos and the Chargers deserved first shot, why not make “B” the Rams and Chargers in Inglewood? Bisciotti’s idea was embraced by the league.

So Goodell, trying to form a proposal that could get 24 votes, adjourned with the six-man L.A. committee. They were gone about an hour. During that meeting, each of the three owners rotated through to be apprised of the compromises the leagues and committee were considering. They threw around several ideas and settled on this one: Because it was clear San Diego was the franchise favored over Oakland for relocation, the committee would propose giving the Chargers a one-year option to join the Rams in the Inglewood project; construction would start immediately regardless of whether a second team joined. Then, if the Chargers didn’t exercise their option to join in one year, the option would then belong to the Raiders. In addition, the league would throw in $100 million if the Chargers or Raiders reached agreement in their existing markets to build a new stadium.

Goodell and the committee returned to the room and explained the compromise. The membership knew Inglewood was going to pass muster; it was just a matter of time. And this proposal—which potentially motivated the politicos in San Diego to take another shot with $100 million more from the league as a spur—seemed the fairest to both Spanos and the Rams. The Rams were willing to take a partner in Inglewood, but Kroenke would prefer to go it alone. But if it meant the league would give the project its blessing, it was a deal Kroenke was fine with.

The previous Friday, in New York, Kroenke had agreed to a revenue-split if it turned out he eventually would take on a partner. All along, Spanos did not want to be Kroenke’s tenant—or anyone’s tenant, for that matter. But if Kroenke did a deal to take all the financial risk for potential cost overruns and other financial liability, and motivated a second team with a profitable stick-and-carrot, might that tempt the Chargers? In the end, on Friday, Kroenke agreed to let a second team keep all gameday revenue in and around the stadium. And he told the league he would agree to a formula that gave the second team 18.75 percent of other lucrative deals associated with the new stadium—such as signage and stadium naming rights. When the deal was relayed to owners on Tuesday, one owner exclaimed, “Sign me up! We’ll be the Los Angeles Wolverines!” (Writer’s note: The team name is changed, because the owner told the story with the agreement that he not be identified.)

The vote was anticlimactic: 30-2. There was light applause. No owner wanted to show up Spanos. They were clapping, one said, for Kroenke, and for this long ordeal being over.

Kroenke rose. “Thank you for your trust,” he said. “I won’t disappoint you.”

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A few things to know:

• St. Louis is the jilted party here, obviously, losing its team. But the lease signed by St. Louis officials to get the Rams to come was such a team-favored deal that the only way it wasn’t going to end ugly for St. Louis was if the Rams’ owner—Georgia Frontiere first, then Kroenke after she died in 2008—agreed to re-write the terms of the lease. Kroenke wouldn’t do that. Those terms said the locals had to keep the Edward Jones Dome a top-tier stadium, which in NFL parlance is taken to mean “top quartile,” or top eight. That would have meant St. Louis would have had to inject $700 million into the Edward Jones Dome by 2015 to keep up with the Joneses (Jerry, and other owners) throughout the league. St. Louis was never going to do that, and pledged about a quarter of that amount. Kroenke said no. Now, you can nail Kroenke for disingenuous negotiating, for never stridently pleading his case publicly and disappearing and never engaging with the fans or politicians to try to get a deal done. All fair criticisms. Nail him too for being a local guy who never seemed earnestly interested in the Rams staying in St. Louis. But to Kroenke, a deal’s a deal. He wasn’t going to let the locals break a binding lease.

• Jones, according to one top club official who got a call from him urging this team to vote for the Rams’ project, was a major salesman for Kroenke. “Jerry thought Jerry Richardson went overboard trying to push Carson,” the official said. In the end, Jones spent hours pushing Kroenke’s deal, and as another club official said, it had nothing to do with the relationship between Jones and Kroenke. They’re not particularly close. Jones just felt this deal had to be about the owner who had the deepest pockets and the most invested in making Los Angeles work.

• Said one top club official I trust: “Carson never had the ‘wow’ factor. The Rams’ project did. Sentiment for that project became a tsunami.”

• Maybe it won’t matter in the end, but I get no great sentiment favoring the Chargers to move to Los Angeles. If they win, that’ll change. But the Rams were in Los Angeles and Anaheim for 49 years, so there’s a natural sentiment to be loyal to them when they return. Spanos is likely loathe to return to San Diego because of years failing to make a deal there, and it makes sense to move to a place that is going to take away every financial woe. But San Diego is such a loyal and vibrant market, it’s the only place in southern California that loves the Chargers. Could the $100 million spur by the league be the impetus to get a deal done with the city on a new stadium? So many in the league hope so.

• Now for the allegory 25 years in the making …

Once upon a time in the NFL, the establishment told the new kids what was best for everyone, and the kids rebelled. This was in the early nineties, when the league, in the midst of a multi-billion-dollar network TV deal (four years, $3.6 billion), proposed to rebate its TV partners because they were taking a financial bath. Some new-guard owners, including Jerry Jones, nixed it. The new guard worked to get nine votes so they could block the give-back. And they found nine owners, and there was no give-back. Old guard leader Art Modell, the Browns owner and chairman of the Broadcast Committee and the biggest advocate of relief for the networks, subsequently resigned his prestigious TV post.

In 2016, Richardson pushed hard for Carson, and thought he had a majority of owners supporting the Chargers/Raiders project. But when the secret ballot came, it was clear the majority was for the project, not for Spanos. “Classic case of Jerry [Richardson] misreading the field, of overplaying his hand,” one owner said. Richardson, essentially, became the Modell of 2016. He’s still a well-respected owner, but he’s not the power broker some thought when the Los Angeles process started.

A few days after the Rams got their deal, one longtime team and league official mulled the meaning of what just happened. He said: “I sense a shift in the geological plate of the NFL.” A few people were reaching for that conclusion in the wake of a Richie Rich owner getting his way, and the new breed celebrating the shiny new football palace set to open in America’s second-largest city in 2019.

I get it, but I’m not so sure. A shift toward the new breed is exactly what people said in the early nineties, when the owners pushed out Modell and ushered in the new TV model (in favor of FOX using the NFL to build a prime-time network, which has worked).

The NFL isn’t changing so much. It already has changed.

wv wrote:

In a nutshell, would it be fairly reasonable to put
it this way — Kronky/Demoff/(probly Fisher) knew for a long time
that LA was the real goal. And that plans were in the works
to Move to LA — but they also knew it was not a done-deal
because they could not be 100 percent certain that Kronky
would get enuff Votes. (though going rogue was always
a possibility too).

So, for the corporate-twins Kronky/Demoff — the St.Louis
plan was always “Plan C” or an emergency back-up plan, so
they let the fans/city go ahead and continue their efforts
to keep the team in St.Louis.

Is that about it?

w
v

There’s lots of different ways to put it I think. But overall what you said strikes me as a reasonable summary.

I agree with every single word Bob Costas says here.

Man.

He hits it…out…of…the…park.

rams before the move were valued at 930 million in 2014. after this move they are now valued at 2.9 billion dollars. cowboys are first at 4.0 billion.

http://www.businessinsider.com/la-rams-value-2016-1