Keyshawn Johnson: "Fisher was forced to draft Goff"

I call B.S. If that was true, Fisher would quit. The smart thing would be to acquire the the pleasure players, and working Shawn Mannion as the future.

— X — wrote:

That aside, I was more taken aback by the fact that they would part with so many draft picks for a QB in a weak QB class when there was SO much defensive talent in the first two rounds.

I dunno. It’s probably all bullshit, but I didn’t think so at the time. And it certainly wouldn’t surprise me if true.

That is a good point about the QB class. If Goff really was drafted simply because he’s a prettier poster boy for LA than Wentz then they deserve the worst.

zn wrote:

IMO, Goff does NOT fit what the Rams’ offense is supposedly all about.

I disagree with that. I never thought Goff wasn’t a Rams type qb or didn’t fit in some way.

And have lived in southern california, I have trouble buying the idea that a laid back, soft spoken kid from Cal would fit southern california ideas of celebrity.

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Hmm. I’m not sure that a soft-spoken good looking kid *isn’t* a marketing dream. Seems perfect to me. I could easily see him on billboards across the area, but I have a hard time envisioning Wentz getting the chicks excited. Not saying that’s the case. Just saying *if it was* the case, he’d be more aptly suited to draw in new fans than Opie.

And yeah, Goff might be suitable for the Rams offense if he becomes everything they thought Bradford was gonna be. Otherwise, Wentz was (and is) more pro-ready, mobile, intelligent, bigger and stronger. That’s a fit for smash-mouth offense. I mean, they ran a couple of zone-read plays with Keenum on Monday. Almost feels like they wanna wholly commit to that kind of offense, but can’t. Anyway. Don’t wanna cave jump down this rabbit hole any further. I’m just entertaining the conspiracy theory a little.

I’d suspect that it’s possible that Snisher was forced to draft Goff or Wentz or Goff after the pitiful QB play the past two or four seasons and then the trade and then the hours of analysis and the private visits and the more hours of analysis and the endless meetings talking about the attributes of each. Then, and only then did they take the strawberries… er I mean draft Goff.

Let him sit until he’s ready – like a nice strawberry-rhubarb pie.

I see no reason that Goff won’t be better or just as good and win more titles. That’s because I haven’t seen Goff play in a real game yet. But, I don’t want him to play before he’s ready – that’s their best move now.

Yes but you’re forgetting that Goff blew them away with his passing in the rain. As soon as the weather turns ugly look out!

PA Ram wrote:

Yes but you’re forgetting that Goff blew them away with his passing in the rain. As soon as the weather turns ugly look out!

But socal is dry. What were they thinking?

I have the ONE THING this discussion needs the most.

Yes. An autographed “behind the scenes” pic from the rabbit in Donnie Darko.

Voila.

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sdram wrote:

.. Then, and only then did they take the strawberries… er I mean draft Goff.

Let him sit until he’s ready – like a nice strawberry-rhubarb pie…

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That’s just crazy talk. Do you even watch football? Goff is obviously
like a fine October pumpkin pie.

Mannion is a strawberry-rhubarb pie.

Keenum is brown sugar cinnamon poptart.

Now dont make me school you again.

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What was Nick Files?

He's doing what he thinks is best for Jared Goff… At the possible expense of Jeff Fisher. https://t.co/peyhmIMjnJ

— Michael Silver (@MikeSilver) September 15, 2016

Goff came from a system that was not pro-style (as did Lynch). It makes sense not to throw him in. Fisher believes this is best for the kid.

— Michael Silver (@MikeSilver) September 15, 2016

Jeff Fisher wanted Jared Goff from February on. My source: Jeff Fisher. Goff was his guy. https://t.co/OYClArCZtC

— Michael Silver (@MikeSilver) September 15, 2016

That report does not quote Fisher. I am quoting Fisher. He told me he wanted Goff in February. And in March. Etc. https://t.co/gNYEp4EI65

— Michael Silver (@MikeSilver) September 15, 2016

I spoke to Jeff Fisher about 20 minutes ago. He reiterated everything I stated in my timeline tonight. This is a philosophical decision.

— Michael Silver (@MikeSilver) September 15, 2016

Read my timeline. He said it in February. He said it in March. He has never not said it. Respect reality. Wow. https://t.co/SseoVZBspQ

— Michael Silver (@MikeSilver) September 15, 2016

If you think there's a possibility that Jeff Fisher lies to me then you don't know me… Or him… Or anything https://t.co/BXlnf2W3FF

— Michael Silver (@MikeSilver) September 15, 2016

He's not. Again: My source is Jeff Fisher. He loved, and loves, Goff. On the record. Got it? https://t.co/Sn1aZZKVSn

— Michael Silver (@MikeSilver) September 15, 2016

Agamemnon wrote:

Sorry Mike, however you justify it, it is only hearsay. I think Fisher will lie to anybody.

He had a qb forced on him before and was public in his displeasure.

Plus I genuinely doubt SK is so stupid he believes 2 things: 1, that a draft pick will bring in ticket sales, and 2, that you can force a qb on a head coach…especially if it involves a LOT of draft picks.

Carroll Rosenbloom was that stupid. I don’t believe SK is.

Right now I don’t believe Fisher is lying as much as I believe that angry fans will believe ANYTHING negative about him. Likely or not.

Btw ag, Fisher speaking is direct testimony. Whether it is accepted as true or not. Keyshawn citing unnamed “inside” and “outside” (!) sources is hearsay. (What are outside sources? “My grocer says…”)

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I wanted Shaq Lawson. The Lakers had their Shaq, and I thought it would be great to have our own Shaq as well. On top, with us losing Chris Long, it would have been nice to get a pass rusher from the DE spot. I like Quinn, but Quinn is not back to his old self yet.

Agamemnon wrote:

I believe Goff was an LA marketing decision, not a football decision. Others are free to believe different.

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Really? You think a coach on the hot-seat, who has already been burned by an owner forcing a QB on him would take a rookie QB just for marketing reasons?

I dont see Fisher or Kronky that way, myself. And…for starters, this idea that Goff is some sort of ‘golden boy’ and Wentz is a ‘farm boy’ thing, doesn’t resonate with me. I mean, I’ve watched Goff on the interview vids and he strikes me as about as bland as they come. Wentz actually seems more lively to me.

At any rate, what about all the experts that evaluated Goff and the other QBs and concluded Goff was the special one ? They had no reason to be influenced by ‘marketing’.

I just think Fisher saw something special in Goff. Ya know. Like with Brian Quick 🙂

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What is ADC up to these days?

My guess for all this is that Stan and Demoff met with Fisher and Snead and talked about the idea or value of making a big move for marketing props. But the move, the pick, the deal was all snisher. And, then when it was all on the table they met again and went over specifics and everybody was in agreement. As far as picking Goff vs Wentz was concerned I think that was all snead and fisher and their staff.

The idea was Rams needed a QB bad, which they do. So they made a deal to get the one they thought was the beat one. And, there’s a good chance that Goff is. Time will tell and Wentz looked good but it’s one game in his rookie season – we’ll see.

Pumpkin chiffon – might try that.