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September 14, 2016 at 11:37 pm #52944
znModeratorhttp://www.turfshowtimes.com/2016/9/14/12924368/espn-john-clayton-rams-hc-jeff-fisher-extension
Clayton: The word on the street, I don’t know if they actually put it in one of the…because…they haven’t really put out the Michael Brockers contract extension yet, because I know he just got a contract extension. I think they were gonna put at the bottom of the release that Jeff Fisher signed a 3-year extension.
Host: Are you serious.
Clayton: Yeah. That’s what I’m hearing.
Host: Oh my gosh!
Clayton: But they haven’t put out any release yet.
September 14, 2016 at 11:56 pm #52946
PA RamParticipantThis doesn’t surprise me at all.
I don’t like it. I don’t believe Fisher earned it. But Stan K. is not interested in messing with things with all that’s going on right now. If it’s a miserable 3 years I would expect him to revisit the situation when they open the new stadium. He’ll want to fill seats and if he brings in a new coach it may do the trick. Right now–he probably isn’t that concerned. The team has quadrupled its value just by moving to L.A.
This is good and bad.
The only good thing I can think of is continuity. Unfortunately that continuity is 7-9.
Still–if this turns into a 4-12 season I would guess that Fisher will have no choice but to shake up the offense once again(new O.C.). Someone will fall on the sword.
So while I’m on the “Fire Fisher” bandwagon, I will have to wrap my mind around it. If it’s going to happen, better to do it early and let everyone wrap their mind around it. No point letting it drag through the season as another distraction when it’s still going to be the end result.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
September 15, 2016 at 12:43 am #52951
InvaderRamModeratorultimately i think this is a good thing. i don’t want to see goff go through what bradford had to go through.
this will be good for his development.
September 15, 2016 at 4:19 am #52954
AgamemnonParticipantI think Fisher is middle of the pack. So, keep him, fire him, it isn’t a big deal to me.
AgamemnonSeptember 15, 2016 at 5:25 am #52956
Eternal RamnationParticipantWhere was this guy when Martz was run out of town ?
September 15, 2016 at 6:52 am #52966
nittany ramModeratorI think Fisher is middle of the pack. So, keep him, fire him, it isn’t a big deal to me.
I was in favor of extending him prior to the SF disaster. Now not so much. I know one game shouldn’t carry so much weight but the Rams looked SO bad…I dunno. I’m no longer deeply embedded in the Fisher camp.
I like continuity and once Goff get’s his shit together the offense will improve. But this team has a lot of talent. I think there’s a lot of coaches that could do well with the Rams.
So, yeah – extend him, fire him, whatever.
September 15, 2016 at 7:58 am #52967
wvParticipantI got no opinion on anything
till i see a couple more games.That goes for all issues, btw. Race, gender, politics, Game of Thrones,
The Kardashians, Global Warming, Scientology, Monsanto, Zooey’s dummer Brother, Wood Stoves, Vaccinations, False Flags, Jesus, Concussions,
Electric Football, Raisin Toast, Terrorism, tapirs…..doesnt matter. I have no opinion until i see a couple more games.w
vSeptember 15, 2016 at 9:33 am #52972nittany ramModeratorI got no opinion on anything
till i see a couple more games.That goes for all issues, btw. Race, gender, politics, Game of Thrones,
The Kardashians, Global Warming, Scientology, Monsanto, Zooey’s dummer Brother, Wood Stoves, Vaccinations, False Flags, Jesus, Concussions,
Electric Football, Raisin Toast, Terrorism, tapirs…..doesnt matter. I have no opinion until i see a couple more games.w
vYou’re being hyperskeptical. We’ve seen enough games to know that Scientology is true.
September 15, 2016 at 9:46 am #52975znModeratorYou’re being hyperskeptical. We’ve seen enough games to know that Scientology is true.
Assuming, of course, that its major human rights abuses were just due to injuries.
September 15, 2016 at 9:54 am #52978wvParticipantYou’re being hyperskeptical. We’ve seen enough games to know that Scientology is true.
Assuming, of course, that its major human rights abuses were just due to injuries.
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Keyshawn has clearly, and indisputably Tweeted
that you and Nittany AND Mike Silver were forced
to defend Scientology.Moreover, Clayton and other really important people,
have tweeted that it was Kronky himself who wanted a scientologist QB,
who would stir up interest in California — but the ‘equipment manager’
who actually runs the entire corporotacracy nixed the idea, for unknown reasons.28 to nothing. Jeezus H christ.
28
to
Nothing.w
vSeptember 15, 2016 at 10:03 am #52983
ZooeyModerator28 to nothing. Jeezus H christ.
28
to
Nothing.w
vTEN punts!
10 punts, and 2 interceptions.
Remember when we were laughing because the Rams didn’t need to waste a roster spot with a punter?
September 15, 2016 at 10:35 am #52992wvParticipant28 to nothing. Jeezus H christ.
28
to
Nothing.w
vTEN punts!
10 punts, and 2 interceptions.
Remember when we were laughing because the Rams didn’t need to waste a roster spot with a punter?
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Ten Punts and Two INTs — AND 49er PLAYERS complaining that they “thought the Rams would play better.”
And this was the OPENER. Fisher had all that time to study, think, develop a plan, prepare….
28 to Zero.
Against Gabbert.
With everyone healthy.
Winter is coming.
w
vSeptember 15, 2016 at 10:38 am #52993znModeratorAnd this was the OPENER. Fisher had all that time to study, think, develop a plan, prepare….
Enh. That’s not entirely accurate.
He had all that time to move to 3 locations (OTAs, camp, regular facility one week before the season) and then study film on a completely new 9ers offense there IS no film on, and a completely new 9ers defense there IS no film on.
Do teams that moved win openers?
And it was a bad loss and should not have been that bad.
But…it’s not really true that they had all this time to prepare.
You want to know what they’re like when they really do have all this time to prepare? They beat Seattle in the opener with Foles at qb.
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September 15, 2016 at 11:00 am #52995
JackPMillerParticipantStill–if this turns into a 4-12 season I would guess that Fisher will have no choice but to shake up the offense once again(new O.C.). Someone will fall on the sword.
One problem. We may get a new OC, but the offense will still be the same old offense. Jeff Fisher is the Head Coach. What Jeff Fisher wants to run, Jeff Fisher gets to run.
September 15, 2016 at 11:04 am #52996znModeratorStill–if this turns into a 4-12 season I would guess that Fisher will have no choice but to shake up the offense once again(new O.C.). Someone will fall on the sword.
One problem. We may get a new OC, but the offense will still be the same old offense. Jeff Fisher is the Head Coach. What Jeff Fisher wants to run, Jeff Fisher gets to run.
Right. And in the league there are successful, even dominant offenses that are like what Fisher does. The issue is not “philosophy” (which to me is just a bogus non-issue) it’s personnel and execution.
Look at the league. Out of the top 10 offenses last year in run percentage, 6 were in the playoffs. The top half of the league in run percentage—16 teams–includes 9 playoff teams.
The idea that a team built around strong defense, a running game, and play action is outdated? To be blunt and frank, it’s nonsense. As the league keeps proving.
September 15, 2016 at 11:45 am #52999
bnwBlockedStill–if this turns into a 4-12 season I would guess that Fisher will have no choice but to shake up the offense once again(new O.C.). Someone will fall on the sword.
One problem. We may get a new OC, but the offense will still be the same old offense. Jeff Fisher is the Head Coach. What Jeff Fisher wants to run, Jeff Fisher gets to run.
Right. And in the league there are successful, even dominant offenses that are like what Fisher does. The issue is not “philosophy” (which to me is just a bogus non-issue) it’s personnel and execution.
Look at the league. Out of the top 10 offenses last year in run percentage, 6 were in the playoffs. The top half of the league in run percentage—16 teams–includes 9 playoff teams.
The idea that a team built around strong defense, a running game, and play action is outdated? To be blunt and frank, it’s nonsense. As the league keeps proving.
OK but how many of those offenses also had a good passing attack? Probably all of those teams did. One dimensional offenses don’t win today.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
September 15, 2016 at 12:02 pm #53001wvParticipantOK but how many of those offenses also had a good passing attack? Probably all of those teams did. One dimensional offenses don’t win today.
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Well, the Rams run a zero-dimensional offense, right now.
They dont even have one dimension.
They are undimensional.
Even quantum physicists dont understand NO-dimensional offenses.
w
vSeptember 15, 2016 at 12:14 pm #53002bnwBlockedOK but how many of those offenses also had a good passing attack? Probably all of those teams did. One dimensional offenses don’t win today.
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Well, the Rams run a zero-dimensional offense, right now.
They dont even have one dimension.
They are undimensional.
Even quantum physicists dont understand NO-dimensional offenses.
w
vThat calls for the uncola.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
September 15, 2016 at 12:52 pm #53003PA RamParticipantWell, the Rams run a zero-dimensional offense, right now.
They dont even have one dimension.
They are undimensional.
Even quantum physicists dont understand NO-dimensional offenses.
w
vI believe it’s version of the “Black Hole” offense. Once the ball is snapped any offense goes into a black hole and can’t escape. There is even a theory that the offense is actually moving backward and somehow gives the other teams points for TDs and FGs they didn’t even make. They run it very effectively.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
September 15, 2016 at 2:27 pm #53006
joemadParticipant28 to nothing. Jeezus H christ.
28
to
Nothing.w
vTEN punts!
10 punts, and 2 interceptions.
Remember when we were laughing because the Rams didn’t need to waste a roster spot with a punter?
10 punts,, that’s only 2 more punts than New England had in SB 36……..
September 15, 2016 at 3:34 pm #53008wvParticipantThat calls for the uncola.
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Damn. I’d never seen that before. Cool.
…i was not expecting ‘hippie stuff’ from you, bnw. Good work.
I may have to reevaluate and revisit my mental-picture of what you look like
w
vSeptember 15, 2016 at 3:56 pm #53010
— X —ParticipantIf Goff turns out to be who they think he is, then it won’t matter. He can have a contract extension they length of GOff’s career and nobody will say boo as long as Goff remains healthy.
You have to be odd, to be number one.
-- Dr SeussSeptember 15, 2016 at 4:16 pm #53013ZooeyModeratorThat calls for the uncola.
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Damn. I’d never seen that before. Cool.
…i was not expecting ‘hippie stuff’ from you, bnw. Good work.
I may have to reevaluate and revisit my mental-picture of what you look like
w
vFunny, I have ALWAYS pictured him in a lavender onesie with rainbow wings. But maybe that’s just me.
September 15, 2016 at 8:06 pm #53038InvaderRamModeratorWell, the Rams run a zero-dimensional offense, right now.
They dont even have one dimension.
They are undimensional.
Even quantum physicists dont understand NO-dimensional offenses.
w
vI believe it’s version of the “Black Hole” offense. Once the ball is snapped any offense goes into a black hole and can’t escape. There is even a theory that the offense is actually moving backward and somehow gives the other teams points for TDs and FGs they didn’t even make. They run it very effectively.
maybe the offense should be playing defense.
September 15, 2016 at 8:52 pm #53041bnwBlockedThat calls for the uncola.
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Damn. I’d never seen that before. Cool.
…i was not expecting ‘hippie stuff’ from you, bnw. Good work.
I may have to reevaluate and revisit my mental-picture of what you look like
w
vFunny, I have ALWAYS pictured him in a lavender onesie with rainbow wings. But maybe that’s just me.
So that was you fogging up my bedroom window. Most would think it was my attire but you know its my moves.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
September 16, 2016 at 9:29 am #53070znModeratorBonsignore: No sense rushing into an extension for Rams coach Jeff Fisher
Vincent Bonsignore
At the beginning of training camp last month Jeff Fisher told me he planned to be the coach of the Rams for a long, long time.
The declaration was in response to a question about a contract extension he and the Rams were reportedly closing in on. As he and general manager Les Snead approached the final year of their five-year contracts, there was hope and expectation within the club the relationships would soon get extended.
That was then and this is now.
The extension hasn’t materialized — at least not in the form of an officially agreed upon signed contract anyway.
And after the debacle Monday night in the Rams’ season-opening loss to the San Francisco 49ers, the sense now is the club will take more time before officially renewing vows with their coach and general manager.
It’s their only choice, really, lest they create an immediate and intense public relations fiasco one step into their first season back in L.A.
Imagine telling your fan base — and the fans you are trying to cultivate as you ease back into the second-biggest market in the country — you just re-upped with your coach immediately after an embarrassing meltdown on national television?
The optics could not have been worse. The message any more convoluted.
The right thing to do is wait.
There’s no real justification rushing a decision that will set the course of the franchise the next three years. Especially after the events that unfolded Monday night in the Bay Area.
There’s too much at stake as the Rams settle back in L.A.
And plenty of time to sort it out.
Fisher wants to be here. So does Snead. Knowing that — and understanding neither are going anywhere — why not wait to let this season play out before cementing their long-range tenures?
One way or another, it should be clear whether they deserve the opportunity to continue at their positions.
Or not.
If the Rams finally move past the 7-9 purgatory they’ve been sentenced to the last few years, they stay.
If not, it’s time to move on.
Maybe from one.
Perhaps even both.
And if it’s a new coach they eventually go looking for, here’s something to chew on: University of Houston coach Tom Herman, who’s made immediate and prolific improvements to every offense he’s ever coached — grew up in Simi Valley and played football at Cal Lutheran University.
Think about it: The hottest young coach in the country grew up a stone’s throw from the Rams’ home base and played football at the stadium adjacent to their practice field.
The Rams have a talented young quarterback to groom in Jared Goff and an offense that needs a dose of sophistication and updating.
You could do worse than the guy who just whipped Oklahoma, is now 15-1 in two seasons with the Cougars and who Urban Meyer entrusted his Ohio State offense with.
Remember, Meyer, Herman and the Buckeyes won a national championship together in 2014. They were down to their third-string quarterback.
Just saying.
But let’s not get ahead of ourselves.
For now, Fisher and Snead deserve a chance to get things squared away the next 16 weeks.
Where do things stand?
Upon doing some poking around, pretty safe to assume the parameters of new deals are in place. And on some level, there is justification and prudence in giving the Fisher and Snead more time to complete the jobs they were tasked with.
The roster is significantly better than when they arrived, with young stars Todd Gurley and defensive tackle Aaron Donald to build around. The defensive line is among the best in the NFL and the offensive line has shown improvement.
If Goff eventually develops into the quarterback Fisher and Snead counted on upon taking him first overall, they will have a franchise quarterback in place.
As a result, there’s a sentiment within the organization that Snead and Fisher deserve the chance to see their rebuilding job through its conclusion.
And considering the enormous distractions the Rams dealt with as a team in limbo the last two seasons, there is an appreciation in the organization for how Snead and Fisher kept it all together.
Based on those dynamics, contract extensions might be in order.
On the other hand, this is a results-oriented business.
The one thing the Rams haven’t done under Fisher and Snead is turn the proverbial corner. They’re stuck in 7-9 limbo, having gone 27-37-1 over their four-year tenure.
Meanwhile, Fisher’s coached five teams to the playoffs the last 15 years — the last in 2008 — and gone 2-5.
That doesn’t encourage a lot of confidence. In fact if there’s one thing the St. Louis and Los Angeles fan bases agree on, it’s that the Rams can do better than the current coach.
And that was before the fiasco on Monday when Fisher didn’t have his team ready to play against the 49ers.
It’s one thing to lose, but the Rams wilted under the pressure of the Monday Night Football stage and got beat up in the trenches by offensive and defensive lines they were expected to easily handle.
The failure falls right at the feet of Fisher, who then compounded the problem by using the move from St. Louis to Los Angeles as a potential excuse.
After consistently preaching the last eight months the move would not be a crutch this year, he immediately reached for it after a Week 1 beatdown.
It wasn’t a good look at all.
But it’s still just one game.
Fisher and the Rams have plenty of time to turn things around.
If they do, maybe he earns a chance to stay on.
But no sense rushing such an important decision.
Let the results be the guiding light.
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