Jimmy Dore with a cia-whistle-blower

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  • September 30, 2019 at 3:20 pm #105998
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    September 30, 2019 at 3:29 pm #106001
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    I think Jimmy makes an interesting point about which whistle-blowers the Dems and Dem-Corporate-Media paint as heroes and which whistle-blowers they demonize and put in prison.

    How come the Dems dont lionize Chelsea, Snowden, Assange, etc?

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    September 30, 2019 at 6:45 pm #106014
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    WV,

    It’s hard for me to watch that. IMO, Dore talks as if he’s being paid directly by Trump. Seriously. I’m not exaggerating. He’s carrying his water, and his take on this issue is so obviously prejudiced, I’m amazed he isn’t laughing the entire time at his own chutzpah.

    He knows nothing about this guy, yet he’s already determined he’s a “spook” and was supposedly sent by the CIA — which Trump controls — to (spy on and) go after Trump. How does Dore know this? Dore can’t even conceive of the possibility that the whistleblower honestly saw and heard things that disturbed him enough to act . . . the interviewee seemed to think that was the case, btw, in his first response to Dore’s spiel. Trump’s own summary of the call shows how wrong Dore is, as does the IG’s report (a Trump appointee).

    Also, Dore is 110% wrong about Russiagate, which seems to also be the basis for his take on this. That it was somehow debunked. He’s using a bogus premise to base his bogus conclusions. Nothing was disproven about Mueller’s report. It’s still the consensus among the Trump-led Intel community. And if it had already been debunked, why is Trump still trying to strong-arm foreign leaders to discredit it?

    (As mentioned in the impeachment thread, it was reported today that he did this recently with the Australian PM, getting Barr involved, etc.)

    . . .

    Oh, well.

    September 30, 2019 at 7:02 pm #106015
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    Quick follow up. Please know that none of this is about you. I kinda feel I have to say that again, cuz I know I sometimes react harshly to posts like this. It’s a bad habit.

    ;>(

    In no way, shape or form am I trying to get you to stop posting the stuff you think is important here. The more the better. I love reading your take on things. Always have. That’s not gonna change.

    Hope all is well in the Mountain State.

    October 1, 2019 at 10:09 am #106039
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    Billy_T wrote:

    WV,

    It’s hard for me to watch that. IMO, Dore talks as if he’s being paid directly by Trump. Seriously….

    Oh, well.

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    Yes, I figured you would feel that way about it, BT. We just disagree on it.

    Dore loathes Trump, btw. Absolutely loathes him. He just loathes the ‘system’ more.

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    October 1, 2019 at 10:10 am #106041
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    Billy_T wrote:

    Quick follow up. Please know that none of this is about you. I kinda feel I have to say that again, cuz I know I sometimes react harshly to posts like this. It’s a bad habit.

    ;>(

    In no way, shape or form am I trying to get you to stop posting the stuff you think is important here. The more the better. I love reading your take on things. Always have. That’s not gonna change.

    Hope all is well in the Mountain State.

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    Oh i know all that, comrad. Its good we can disagree on some stuff. No big thing. We’re on the same side.

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    October 1, 2019 at 11:05 am #106044
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    wv wrote:
    Billy_T wrote:

    Quick follow up. Please know that none of this is about you. I kinda feel I have to say that again, cuz I know I sometimes react harshly to posts like this. It’s a bad habit.

    ;>(

    In no way, shape or form am I trying to get you to stop posting the stuff you think is important here. The more the better. I love reading your take on things. Always have. That’s not gonna change.

    Hope all is well in the Mountain State.

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    Oh i know all that, comrad. Its good we can disagree on some stuff. No big thing. We’re on the same side.

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    These kinds of boiling tensions and hostile confrontations make me so anxious.

    October 1, 2019 at 11:58 am #106054
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    zn wrote:

    These kinds of boiling tensions and hostile confrontations make me so anxious.

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    You only say that because you’ve never gotten over the fact that I definitively proved
    Vermeil was a figurehead.

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