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    Jeff Fisher Press Conference – 11/9(16:44)
    Head coach Jeff Fisher announces the team has signed wide receiver Wes Welker, suspended wide receiver Stedman Bailey and talked about ways the team needs to improve.

    http://www.stlouisrams.com/videos/videos/Jeff-Fisher-Press-Conference—119/a72afaaa-4997-48f9-af34-a474dc5f5b12

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    Rams Head Coach Jeff Fisher – – 11/9/15

    (Opening statement)
    “I can confirm that (WR) Stedman Bailey has been suspended for the next four weeks. Very, very disappointed in his choices. He let himself down in addition to letting his teammates and this organization down. We have a strict policy as it relates to substance abuse and he violated the policy. Fortunately, we’ll get him back in a month. A setback for us from an offensive standpoint. A setback from a special teams standpoint. I’ve had numerous conversations with ‘Sted.’ He understands that this is his last go-around. If he wants to flourish in this league, have a career in this league, he’s going to have to change his lifestyle. He’s regretful. There’s a chance that he’ll be able to be in the building the next four weeks. We’re still trying to get confirmation as to whether he can work out here or be present. My gut feel is that he’ll be able to work out, but you won’t see him on the practice field, nor will he be permitted to be in the meeting room. Disappointing loss for us, but one that was out of our control. The message has been sent to the players. I’m disappointed that it’s back-to-back weeks here. We’re talking about (RB) Trey Watts and Stedman Bailey. We’re not the only team in the league that’s dealing with this, but we’re going to take an aggressive approach to make sure that these things don’t happen in the future. That would explain the reason for the wide receiver workouts today. We’re trying to stay ahead of schedule. We had the three receivers in this morning and currently, as it stands right now, we are working towards…hoping to agree to terms with Wes Welker to come in and help us. He had a great workout this morning. He’s really excited about where this team is going and I think he can potentially help us in a lot of different areas, specifically on third down and keeping the chains moving. That’s kind of a personnel update for you right now.

    “As far as the game is concerned, as coaches we look at it and talk about them. It was really close. This game was close. We had a lot of opportunities. The wind was clearly a factor. We nearly overcame that, but we fell short. A lot of good things. A lot of things we need to continue to work on. As I told you guys yesterday, third down offense, first down offense. We’ve got to play better run defense. It was really close, as I said, to handing out a couple of game balls after a win to (T) Andrew Donnal and (S) Maurice Alexendar because I thought for their first starts they played pretty well. But, we don’t give game balls out after losses. I’ll give you an example of how close things are. (P) Johnny (Hekker) hit that punt in overtime on fourth-and-16 and he really hit it well. The ball is fielded on the 21-yard line. We have a block in the back on the 31-yard line that’s not called. The ball pushes out to midfield. If it’s called, then the ball goes back to the 11. So, we have a difference in 40 yards in field position in overtime with them with the wind. I’m not faulting the officiating department, it’s just that’s how close winning and losing is right now and that’s how it was yesterday.”

    (On if that was the block on TE Cory Harkey)
    “Yes. It was just missed and it happens sometimes. It just happens. That’s not the difference in the ballgame, but it’s one of those things that comes up in close games, especially in an overtime loss that you look at.”

    (On the block in the back taking place near the play)
    “We had two right in similar situations, just right there in front of the ball carrier that were not called. This one was significant. But, it happens. There was some other non-calls in the game, which we all live with. And then there were some other really, really good calls by the officiating department.”

    (On taking an aggressive approach with Bailey)
    “We’ve been educating our players for years. There’s a procedure and there’s a protocol and they have to adhere to it. Once you go in the testing program, if you have another violation, then you’re going to be subject to whatever the circumstances are. You can’t take it lightly. Like I said, he was remorseful and felt bad. He’s letting the team down and we’re going to miss him for four weeks and hopefully he’ll learn from his choices.”

    (On if there is a problem league-wide with players failing drug tests)
    “I can’t go there. It’s been a problem here for us the last couple of weeks. We’ve lost two pretty good players. We’ve got to do whatever we can to get that message across to them. Again, it happens. It’s a club-to-club thing. We deal with them and deal with all kinds of things with the younger players. Just disappointed in ‘Sted.’ He’s a good teammate. He’s a good player. You have to carry over your workplace attitude into your off the field life. He failed us on that.”

    (On checking out Welker with his history with concussions)
    “Oh yeah, we’ve done physicals, we did the workout, we’ve done everything. Everything was good. We’ll see. We’re close, but I don’t know. It may work out, it may not. But, I know we’re close. I just got a thumbs up that the deal’s done. Wes will be part of our football team.”

    (On if it can be tough for a player to come back after not being with a team for a long period of time)
    “He’s in outstanding shape. We saw that early this morning. He’s in great shape. He’s anxious and eager to play. He’s moved the chains for two potential Hall of Fame quarterbacks and he’s good at what he does and he understands it. We already had a visit with him and (QB) Nick (Foles) and they’re excited. Whether he’s active this week, I can’t predict because we have a short period of time to get him caught up. I think he’ll eventually move some chains for us.”

    (On if WR Bradley Marquez can fill in for Bailey)
    “He can. He’s going to have to step up and fill Sted’s void in a lot of special teams areas right now as well.”

    (On if a player like Welker can help them out on third down)
    “Yes.”

    (On third down being historically bad)
    “It is. It’s not good. We need to get better. Four in three games is not good. Like I said, I’ll take five or six of them, but four in three games is not good. We have to get better. That’s a coaching thing. That’s a player thing. That’s a quarterback thing. It’s everybody that’s involved in that, so we’ll get better.”

    (On if there’s any follow up after looking at the tape of CB Lamarcus Joyner’s hit on Vikings QB Teddy Bridgewater)
    “No. Lamarcus plays hard every down and he plays reckless. Unfortunately, there was contact to the head of (Vikings QB) Teddy (Bridgewater) and he was penalized for it. I can’t fault him for his choice. There was another situation in the game where the same thing could have very well happened and (CB Janoris Jenkins) ‘Jenks’ was involved. Teddy slid a little bit late and ‘Jenks’ wasn’t in position to time the slide up. Again, I’m hearing that Teddy is okay and I’m hoping that he plays this week and that was the same thing I said yesterday.”

    (On if he’s aware of the reaction in Minnesota and the notion of him having a ‘dirty team’)
    “I think a good a lesson to be learned from this is control your emotions immediately after the game and go back and look at the tape before you jump to conclusions. Now, clearly it’s been said. Clearly, (Vikings Head Coach) Mike’s (Zimmer) and my handshake was very short. He didn’t say a word. I went out to congratulate him. I was going to ask him how his quarterback was and congratulate him on the win and he was gone. I understand that, but you also need to control your emotions after a game and go look at the tape and then adjust accordingly. Again, I don’t know who they play this week. I don’t care, but we’ve moved on. We’re on to Chicago.”

    (On what he saw on tape with the nature of DB Lamarcus Joyner’s tackle)
    “Lamarcus made a decision to go hit the quarterback prior to (Vikings QB) Teddy (Bridgewater) initiating the slide. That’s what happens. Had Lamarcus not made helmet contact with him, there would have not been a foul. It was penalized on the field. What more can you ask for?”

    (On his thoughts about Rodney Harrison criticizing him)
    “Yeah, I saw it as a matter of fact. I was actually…I don’t want to say I took things personal, but it was kind of a personal attack on me. But, again, I think you have to consider the source. I saw it last night on the airplane. You’re talking about a guy that had a great career. I mean, the guy played a long time. He was hard to defend. He was a really active defensive player. But, this is coming from a guy that had 18 unnecessary roughness penalties, seven personal fouls, four roughing the passer penalties, a total of 77 penalties in his career and was voted three times the dirtiest player in the National Football League and was suspended for a hit, a helmet-to-helmet hit on Jerry Rice in 2002. Okay? This is where these comments are coming from. I’ll just say this: Since 2000, it’s been a privilege and honor for me to be on the competition committee. Our main focus, as you guys have followed this league for a long time know, our main focus is player safety. So, for Rodney to come out and say that I did something like that is absolutely absurd. So, that’s all I have to say on that.”

    (On Harrison not being well regarded in St. Louis for a hit he had on Trent Green in 1999)
    “I just…look, Rodney’s Rodney and we move on.”

    (On if it bothers him when people say that his teams are dirty or chippy)
    “I haven’t heard that. So, we are going to play fast. We are going to physical and we’re going to play furious and we’re going to play contact football. Okay? What bothers me right now is the stuff before and after the whistle. Those are the things that bother me, namely defensive offsides. That’s a problem. That’s something I have to get fixed. I don’t have to worry about the manner in which our players play. They play hard. We had seven going into last week. We had five. We’ve had 12 defensive offsides in three games and that is too many. It doesn’t win games for you, so we have to get that fixed.”

    (On how he plans on fixing the defensive offsides issue)
    “I can’t give…I’m not going to share it. But, we’re going to get it fixed. I’ll back them off. They can line up three yards off the ball. We’ll get a running start after the ball’s snapped. But, I’m going to figure out a way to eliminate defensive offsides.”

    (On how he plans on fixing the third down conversion issues)
    “We just have to continue to work on it. Give (QB) Nick (Foles) some options, different concepts, do better on first downs. You guys have got the numbers. We had 16. We’re two for 16. I think six of them were seven to 10 and we had four or five that were 10 plus. It’s hard. So, it all works together. But, we have to get better there.”

    (On if he thinks the offense is too reliant on big plays)
    “No, I don’t think we’ve had enough big plays. We need more big plays. We need big runs. We need chunks. We need to change field position. We’ve played some good defenses, so we’re back to work. We’re due for a breakout game on offense.”

    (On if he has any second thoughts about going for the two point conversion)
    “No. Six points in the game were scored against the wind. Six. So, and I knew we were going to have to score points. We got down there, the wind wasn’t a factor and we decided to go for it. We just didn’t execute.”

    (On if he would have made the same choice the Vikings did in overtime)
    “I would have taken the ball. I would have taken the ball and/or taken the wind. I would not have won the toss and taken the wind. No.”

    (On how he can get more out of QB Nick Foles)
    “I mean, we’re halfway through the season. It’s a new system. He’s eight weeks into it and we just have to keep working at it, which we will.”

    (On how he thinks DE Matt Longacre performed)
    “Matt was productive. Yeah, he got off some blocks and made some plays. He was good. I mean, you look at the tape and you’ve got three guys that really haven’t played much and there were some redeeming qualities to all three: that’s (G) Andrew (Donnal) and of course (S) Maurice (Alexander) and Matt. So, he was effective.”

    (On how he thinks T Garrett Reynolds performed)
    “Garrett did fine. He played there. He’s played there. Like I said after the game, he’s played against those guys. So, he had a good feel for it.”

    (On what he saw from S Maurice Alexander and G Andrew Donnal)
    “Well, they made plays. They were in position. There were a couple mistakes here and there, but it wasn’t overwhelming to them. Their first time to really line up and start on the road, especially with Andrew with the noise and all that kind of stuff and the guys they had up front, the game wasn’t big for him. He’s got a lot of room for improvement, but he’s going to benefit from that experience as will Maurice.”

    (On S T.J. McDonald and DE Robert Quinn and T Rob Havenstein’s status)
    “I think we’re probably looking to late Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. I think we’ll get everybody back at some point on the field. So, we’ll have a better idea.”

    (On if he’s concerned with Foles not seeing the open receivers)
    “Well, I mean, the position’s hard. I mean, you don’t know what he sees and who’s in front of him. But, he’s got a progression. He’s got to read. He’s got to go to the right place. So, yeah, there’s room for improvement there. I mean, yeah, the first play of the game, (WR) Kenny’s (Britt) 10 yards behind the secondary and he just didn’t see him. So, it happens sometimes.”

    (On if RB Trey Watts is still allowed to be in the building due to his suspension)
    “Yes. Trey will have…he has permission to be in the building to condition and lift and workout, yes. No meetings and no practice.”

    #33867
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    (On third down being historically bad)
    “It is. It’s not good. We need to get better. Four in three games is not good. Like I said, I’ll take five or six of them, but four in three games is not good. We have to get better. That’s a coaching thing. That’s a player thing. That’s a quarterback thing. It’s everybody that’s involved in that, so we’ll get better.”

    Yeah, right. We’ll get better. Just like that. With poor WRs and a lousy QB … Sure. We’ll get better.

    What a maroon this guy is.

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    #33869
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    Yeah, right. We’ll get better. Just like that. With poor WRs and a lousy QB … Sure. We’ll get better.

    What a maroon this guy is.

    I completely disagree. I think that’s exactly what he should say, because part of coaching is the combination of drive to do it and optimism. As for the receivers, every single one of them except Tavon was better last year—at everything. It was the talk of camp and it was the talk of the early season last year. And Fisher’s right…it’s far from being one thing anyway. All I know is, early in the season last year there was talk around about Wms. being a bust as a coach. Now they are rightly considered a top defense even as the injuries mount up. This time last year no one could imagine what they would be like with Quinn out, Long out, and Hayes playing banged up. Yet for all that they went on the road against a good team where they should have been at a distinct disadvantage but came just short of winning it and in fact for a lot of the game I thought they would win it. Well the offense is doing the exact same thing right now the defense was last year—very slow out of the gate. In fact given how slow out of the gate they are, it’s really interesting that they are 4-4.

    Bradford, same thing. Struggled for several games in a row in a new offense, and then click, last night it turned on.

    I don’t like the world where people tell each other what they are allowed to say and think, and this board does not do that. No one on the board does it. We just respectfully put up opinions and encourage the next guy to add his 2 cents too. So I just consider this another opinion beside yours. I guess the key is, I think yes they can improve because both Foles and the receivers have already been better than this, but adding a new young line to a new coordinator to a new qb is just not going to look top notch at first. If I am right then we will all see them stabilize and be better. If I am wrong then that will never happen. It won’t be too hard to tell the difference.

    But I thought what Fisher said was apt, right, and what he’s supposed to say. He’s supposed to believe he can make it work. He wouldn’t be a coach if he didn’t think that, he would be a hospice counselor or something. I have no problem with him saying what he said. Just a different 2 cents.

    #33899
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    I completely disagree. I think that’s exactly what he should say, because part of coaching is the combination of drive to do it and optimism.

    As for the receivers, every single one of them except Tavon was better last year—at everything. …

    All I know is, early in the season last year there was talk around about Wms. being a bust as a coach. Now they are rightly considered a top defense even as the injuries mount up. …

    Well the offense is doing the exact same thing right now the defense was last year—very slow out of the gate. In fact given how slow out of the gate they are, it’s really interesting that they are 4-4….

    But I thought what Fisher said was apt, right, and what he’s supposed to say. He’s supposed to believe he can make it work. He wouldn’t be a coach if he didn’t think that, he would be a hospice counselor or something. I have no problem with him saying what he said. Just a different 2 cents

    Obviously we disagree. I do not share your limitless patience with Fisher’s teams breaking down or your blithe conviction that they will be better given time. Our ideas of how much time is appropriate are pretty different.

    I just want to address your reference to the defense. Yes, the defense is playing well right now. Does that mean that Williams was not a bust?

    Well, I don’t think I ever used that term. But I would argue that Williams WAS a bust … for last year. He took an immensely talented unit and screwed haplessly around for half a year and got some improvement which he couldn’t sustain over the last few games. He refused to take responsibility for the transition stage to a new system, and signally failed to take advantage of the team’s talent on the OL and at CB. This year, one of the reasons the defense is doing well is that he has FINALLY learned that he doesn’t have to blitz all the time when he has DL talent. OK, he has learned some lessons, but it took him a long damn time to do that and the cost was last year. He utterly failed to lead a talented defense last year to keep the team in the race during the 1st month. I dunno if that means he was a bust, but there’s a healthy does of failure there.

    Now, your post seems to want to draw analogies between the arc of progress on defense and apply them to the offense. But, see, there’s a problem. The talent on offense, especially in the passing game, is far, far inferior to that on defense. The issue with the defense last year was NEVER about talent–it was always about deployments and schemes. Our passing offense, however, has very, very little talent. I don’t see how coaching is going to overcome that talent deficit.

    Fisher has invested a lot of time and money in players who have shown flashes but have never shown consistent grit. Britt. Cook. Quick. To a lesser extent, Baily. And Foles. None of these guys has ever scared anyone or proven to be steadily clutch. You want to say that they have all looked better “in the past.” Yeah, but never consistently. None has ever shown the sort of genuine talent we see in Quinn, Donald, TJM, even Brockers. These guys simply do not have the talent or competitiveness to form an appropriate analogy to the defense last year.

    And this is why I hear Fisher differently than you do. Out of his mouth perpetually comes bland coach-speak. He consistently fails to deal with his team’s failures. The penalties. The lousy passing game. (A criticism he face way back in TENN.) The inconsistent levels of competitiveness. (The Vikings were really beatable Sunday!) The bland coach-speak is never backed up by actual improvement, except on the one unit where he has surpassing talent. Hell, even his famous special teams perform unevenly.

    Well, in the end, I THINK you have been saying that you never really expected all that much this year anyway. The playoffs? In a year when the NFC and the division are not really that tough? When you have an emerging elite defense? Nah. We don’t need to make the playoffs. Another 9-7 or 8-8 year? Fine. He just needs time. Why expect better than this in his 4th freaking season? I guess you’re OK with incremental, teasing progress each year.

    I don’t like the world where people tell each other what they are allowed to say and think, and this board does not do that. No one on the board does it. We just respectfully put up opinions and encourage the next guy to add his 2 cents too. So I just consider this another opinion beside yours.

    Can I say that I have been reading your lectures on this for 20 years? 2 freaking decades?

    You know, I have learned a lot from you over the years. I’ve learned a lot from your stated positions on multiple voices.

    But it has been a long, long time since there has been anything for me to learn from these little lecturettes. I don’t understand why responses to my posts seem to call out your need to defend multiple points of view. I don’t know of anything I do that might suggest that I don’t understand this basic fact. I express my view as does everyone else, and I make the best cases that I can for that view. Please stop lecturing me on how important it is to understand that other viewpoints are OK and that you virtuously recognize my right to express myself.

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    #33933
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    Obviously we disagree. I do not share your limitless patience with Fisher’s teams breaking down or your blithe conviction that they will be better given time. Our ideas of how much time is appropriate are pretty different.

    I have no idea how much time is appropriate.

    But I see their history this way. They did build a team that was going to turn the corner, and injuries to the qb and OL waylaid that. So in 2015 they started over with a new qb and a new OL. So I don’t see 2015 as year 4, I see it as a start-over on offense.

    To me that’s just a realistic analysis. You obviously disagree.

    Oh and I said nothing about your right to express yourself. In fact I said nothing about you expressing yourself at all, one way or another. I was talking about me expressing MYself, and how I view THAT. It had nothing to do with what you mistakenly took it to mean: Please stop lecturing me on how important it is to understand that other viewpoints are OK and that you virtuously recognize my right to express myself.

    As usual I said and did no such thing. Ironically, I was trying to cue you that my intentions were not negative…. Anyway ironically you took me saying that as doing what I was trying to tell you I don’t do.

    Now I have to speak directly as a mod. These kinds of exchanges either stop or I up the ante and go directly to mod options, like locked threads or if need be, deletes. The board doesn’t allow personal antagonisms, and I can’t be fair to everyone else and allow them to continue with you. If you don’t like what I say (and invariably I am baffled at how you take some things), either email me and straighten it out, or just don’t say anything. If saying that damages our friendship, which is far from what I want, I am just going to have to take that hit. I promise not to respond to your posts at all anymore, since it seems to lead to this kind of thing. You have no idea how much I regret having to say that. Oh, and, if there is any response to this post, please stick to football…any continuation of this personal stuff will be treated the way the rules say I have to treat it. So “the end” on that kind of thing in our exchanges. Thanks.

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