Janoris J or Tru J ?

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  • #38106
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    If you had to pick only One,
    which would you pick?

    I go with JJ.

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    #38107
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    Although I think JJ is the more talented of the two I think TruJo is more reliable and productive.

    So if I had to choose I’d lean towards TruJo but I’m hoping the Rams can resign them both.

    #38108
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    i’d go with janoris.

    #38109
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    Johnson, cause I think he will be the better value.

    Agamemnon

    #38111
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    Johnson, cause I think he will be the better value.

    The idea of ‘value’ being that you can sign Tru
    and then have more money left over to do
    other things you need to do?

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    #38112
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    The idea of ‘value’ being that you can sign Tru
    and then have more money left over to do
    other things you need to do?

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    Right, I get to use that money more efficiently. That makes the rest of the FAs easier. I will probably get a 3rd round comp pick if I don’t sign an expensive outside FA.

    I would rather have a cheaper player with a better chance to play to his contract, than a player that might find it hard to play up to his contract.

    Agamemnon

    #38113
    NERam
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    That’s a tough question. Not sure, myself.

    Janoris isn’t being recognized as a shut down corner, yet. But there are some shades of that showing.

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/teams-not-throwing-jenkins-way/article_1b9bdc6a-cc90-5cab-9af4-f50bb8a1165f.html

    #38126
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    the only thing working against jenkins is he will be 28 in october. johnson just turned 26.

    #38127
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    I will take both of them.

    Kobayashi Maru be damned.

    #38128
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    Johnson made plays but then they didn’t throw much to Jenkins, indicating he was playing well.

    However, I take Johnson and keep developing CBs.

    They already have Gaines, Roberson, and Joyner. They can add to that.

    I don’t remember them ever being this deep at CB before.

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    #38130
    Herzog
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    I’d go with Tru. you can’t teach size.

    #38132
    Avatar photoEternal Ramnation
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    I’d take TruJo. He has come a lot farther than JJ and still going up , he makes plays JJ can’t.

    #38159
    Ozoneranger
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    Johnson, despite his horrible game in my presence at the Niner game.

    I think the Rams MUST sign one of them before the start of FA. Jenkins, I’ve heard, is determined to test the market no matter what.

    #38214
    Isiah58
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    I think that the Rams value JJ more, and will do everything to keep JJ. Remember, E.J. Gaines was penciled in as a starter across JJ this year until his foot injury scrapped his season. There was never a thought of benching JJ. If E. J. doesn’t get hurt, maybe Johnson only plays a small role on this team in ’15. That said, I have always appreciated what TJ brought and felt he really gained confidence over the course of this year. I would not be disappointed keeping either of them, but if we lose one I hope it is to a monster contract so we can claim a 3rd or 4th round compensatory pick next year.

    • This reply was modified 8 years, 11 months ago by Isiah58.

    “Marge, don't discourage the boy! Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals! Except the weasel.” - Homer Simpson

    #38242
    sdram
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    I like how solid JJ has become but I’d take Trumaine first – I think he’s more the more talented of the two and still has room to grow.

    #38417
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    Why Trumaine Johnson should be re-signed over Janoris Jenkins

    Matthew Luhmann

    Los Angeles Rams: Why Trumaine Johnson should be re-signed over Janoris Jenkins

    A big decision needs to be made this offseason. The Rams free agent class is headlined by their two best corners this past season. Janoris Jenkins and Trumaine Johnson both had stellar seasons, but both of them will be demanding quite a bit of money for their services. Most likely, Les Snead will only be able to keep one, but which one should it be?

    The Jack Rabbit (Jenkins’s nickname) is coming off of one of his best seasons in the NFL. After having some head shaking 2014 moments, including getting burnt by Brandon Lloyd for 80 yards before halftime against the 49ers, Jenkins improved his coverage abilities. A career high 15 pass deflections, triple from his total in 2014, and three interceptions helped to increase his value.

    One major flaw in Jenkins’s game is his tackling ability, especially in the open field. Since Jenkins is not a big corner, he does not try and tackle upright in the way a linebacker would. Instead, Jenkins dives for the legs of players, which makes him more prone to whiffing and turning a one yard gain into a ten yard gain. Aside from the occasional coverage blunder, Jenkins improved his game tremendously in 2015.

    Tru (Johnson’s nickname) had an amazing 2015 which many Rams fans thought was Pro Bowl worthy, but alas, the voters thought otherwise. For the season, Johnson had 7 interceptions to go along with 58 tackles. That was in 14 games after a season in which he only played in 9 and had 3 interceptions.

    In terms of physicality, Johnson has the advantage over Jenkins, as he does not go for the legs to tackle all the time. Another important note is that against the Lions, Johnson went toe-to-toe with Calvin Johnson. For the game Johnson only had one catch, which came in the fourth quarter, for sixteen yards.

    Factor in the 17 pass deflections and Johnson looks like the better option over Jenkins. Both will be demanding a good chunk of money no doubt, but how much money exactly will they want. However, Jenkins has shown the ability to be a number one corner in the past, as in 2012 and 2013 he had a combined 28 pass deflections to go along with 5 interceptions (3 returned for touchdowns).

    Surely Les Snead does not want to exhaust all of his cap space on Jenkins and Johnson, but there are other players who could either take a pay cut or be cut altogether to make room for them both. I will touch on that in a future article, but if you had to choose one, who would you re-sign? If it were me, I would go with Johnson because of his physicality and he looked very good in coverage and did not have a lot of bad plays

    #38420
    Isiah58
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    I think Jenkins is a much better tackler than fans give him credit for, and he can also lay the wood at times. However, they both blossomed this year and had great contract years, and both will make a lot of money this Spring one way or the other.

    Isiah58

    “Marge, don't discourage the boy! Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals! Except the weasel.” - Homer Simpson

    #38424
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    However, they both blossomed this year and had great contract years, and both will make a lot of money this Spring one way or the other.

    Which one do you personally prefer?

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    #38428
    Isiah58
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    I’ll be fine if they keep either, and they both have minor character “flags,” but I covet Johnson’s size (ha!) and think he is more scheme independent. How about you?

    “Marge, don't discourage the boy! Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals! Except the weasel.” - Homer Simpson

    #38429
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    I’ll be fine if they keep either, and they both have minor character “flags,” but I covet Johnson’s size (ha!) and think he is more scheme independent. How about you?

    I favor Johnson for pretty much the same reasons.

    Not that JJ will be easy to replace, but, these guys seem to find corners.

    #38435
    Avatar photoInvaderRam
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    I’ll be fine if they keep either, and they both have minor character “flags,” but I covet Johnson’s size (ha!) and think he is more scheme independent. How about you?

    I favor Johnson for pretty much the same reasons.

    Not that JJ will be easy to replace, but, these guys seem to find corners.

    yeah. the one thing i don’t worry about is their ability to develop defensive backs.

    #38452
    lyser
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    Johnson. I think JJ is going to smoke his signing bonus (hope he comes to my house to do it).

    #38818
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    the one thing i don’t worry about is their ability to develop defensive backs.

    They have in the wings:

    Roberson, Gaines, Joyner

    Griffith

    Alexander

    McDonald isn’t up for FA but Barron, McCleod, Jenkins, and Johnson are.

    Here’s another thread on this: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/wagoner-free-agents-in-secondary-will-shape-rams-offseason/

    #38831
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    all mid round picks too with joyner being the highest.

    i don’t think they should ever spend too much money on defensive backs. maybe just grab one or so in the draft every year and keep developing them.

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