Is everything in the Universe made of the same 'thing'?

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April 5, 2016 at 11:41 am #41478

Agamemnon
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Yes, energy was makes all things. So, then, what is the first thing after energy?

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April 5, 2016 at 12:05 pm #41484

bnw
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First thing after energy is a nap.

The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

Sprinkles are for winners.

April 5, 2016 at 12:34 pm #41487
wv
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Agamemnon wrote:

Yes, energy was makes all things. So, then, what is the first thing after energy?

Well, my own personal point in starting this thread
is to point out that I think science-writers should
emphasize the fundamental ‘mystery’ of life/Universe more.
Articles about Quarks, and atoms and string theory,
and big bangs, etc, etc etc etc — should highlight
the fact that ‘we’ have no idea what the Universe/people/anything
is “made of”. Ie, we do not know what ‘energy’ really ‘is’.
We have some crude tools that allow us to observe things
we call electrons and quarks and such — but we dont
know what they ‘are’ and we dont know what, if anything,
they are ‘made of.’

Now to me, that is exciting, astonishing, mind-blowing,
ineffably weird. We dont know what we ‘are’.

Now zn and nittany might disagree with the way i
phrased things, but they dont know what they ‘are’
so, i think we can ignore them.

Pa Ram is most probably made of dark-matter,
on that there is a consensus, I would say.

Ag is made of ‘blue matter’ but still,
what is blue matter made of?

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April 5, 2016 at 7:35 pm #41505

zn
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wv wrote:

Articles about Quarks, and atoms and string theory,
and big bangs, etc, etc etc etc — should highlight
the fact that ‘we’ have no idea what the Universe/people/anything
is “made of”.

Well we know that people/and most every thing we see are made of atoms, and atoms are made of protons and electrons, and protons are made of quarks.

What we don’t know is whether electrons and quarks are made of anything else, or not.

It’s not that we don’t know what they are made of. It’s that we don’t know even IF they are made of something else or not. (Though, most likely, not.) But then, why keep adding that?

As a rule science doesn’t talk about “everything” a lot of the time. Most of the time, it talks about specific things. So it gets old and redundant to say over and over “the sun is made of a complex interaction between gravitational pressure pulling atoms inward and nuclear energy pushing them out. Now please add standard caveat that we don;t know what gravity, energy, and sub-sub-atomic sub-particles are made of.”

I personally don’t need mystery. I also don’t need its opposite. I just like hearing what they know, so far. So I personally understand why they don’t keep adding the “don’t know” part.

It’s like football talk. There’s only so far it can go, and we know that. “Keenum gets a 1st down! Granted, this does not help us determine if quarks are elemental particles or not. And why did the French invent ragout?”
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