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  • #89326
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    Imagine:https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/what-if-there-were-no-official-narratives-4de3ee54ed0c

    Caitlin Johnstone

    “….situations might vary a bit from pundit to pundit and outlet to outlet, but the overall “how it is” narrative about what’s happening is the same across the board. This is the official narrative, and the plutocrat-owned media/political class has full control over it.

    We all know the official narratives, right? The US and its allies are good, the latest Official Bad Guy is bad. You live in a democracy where your vote counts and your government is accountable to you and your countrymen, just like they taught you in school. The two political parties are totally different and their opposition is totally real. The news man on TV never reports any falsehoods because if he did he’d lose his job, which means that the Russian hacking thing, the Syria thing, the 9/11 thing, all happened exactly as the government told us they happened. Iraq was maybe kinda sorta a mistake, but nothing like that could ever happen again because mumble mumble cough hey look what Kanye West is doing.
    Let’s consider a hypothetical scenario, though. Let’s imagine a world where there were no official narratives. About anything. At all.

    What if there was no dominating elite class telling the public how they were meant to interpret events and situations? What if there was only…”

    #89327
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    Do you know of Nina Illingworth?

    I follow her on twitter. She also has a blog. She’s prolific.

    I think you two would see eye to eye on just about everything.

    Link: http://www.ninaillingworth.com/

    #89328
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    Marx said,

    The ideas of the ruling class, in every epoch, are the ideas that rule.

    This may sound way to pat . . . but I think it’s true: The only way to end those official narratives is to end the class system itself.

    #89330
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    Do you know of Nina Illingworth?

    I follow her on twitter. She also has a blog. She’s prolific.

    I think you two would see eye to eye on just about everything.

    Link: http://www.ninaillingworth.com/

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    Hadnt heard of her. I shall peruse her blog. I like her book selections, fwiw.

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    “…The New Avengers Collection:

    Although I’m certainly as guilty as anyone of hoarding old books, there are multiple currently publishing authors whose outstanding work compels me to buy pretty much anything they put out, sight unseen. While it’s certainly important to draw from the past, the writers contained in this section are actively creating new works that are, and will remain, vitally relevant to our collective future – if you’re looking for the ideas that shape *my* ongoing understand of the world, these are the books and creators you need to be reading:

    No Is Not Enough: Resisting Trump’s Shock Politics & Winning the World We Need – Naomi Klein – Review

    The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism – Naomi Klein – Review

    This Changes Everything: Capitalism vs. The Climate – Naomi Klein – Review

    Surveillance Valley: The Secret Military History of the Internet – Yasha Levine – Review

    Blackwater: Rise of the World’s Most Powerful Mercenary Army – Jeremy Scahill – Review

    Griftopia – Matt Taibbi – Review

    Insane Clown President: Dispatches from the 2016 Circus – Matt Taibbi – Review (sorta)

    Foundational Theorists Collection:

    As I’ve mentioned a few times on social media, I have been reading what many would regard as left wing thought (although, I myself might simply call it “the truth”) for many many years before I discovered writers like Klein and Taibbi. This section of my library is reserved for books and authors who taught me the foundations of social science, political theory and an unrelenting commitment to perceiving the world with my eyes wide open. Unfortunately, this section suffered the most extensive losses during my fateful move and I’ve struggled to adequately replace some of the best works I used to own that unquestionably belong here; expect this collection to grow extensively over time:

    The Fateful Triangle: Israel, the United States & the Palestinians (1984) – Noam Chomsky – Review

    Global Discontents: Conversations on the Rising Threats to Democracy – Noam Chomsky – Review

    Language and Politics – Noam Chomsky – Review

    Making the Future: Occupations, Interventions, Empire & Resistance – N. Chomsky – Review

    Manufacturing Consent – N. Chomsky, E. Herman – Review

    Who Rules the World? – Noam Chomsky – Review

    The Wretched of the Earth – Frantz Fanon – Review

    The Autobiography of Malcolm X – Alex Haley, Malcolm X – Review

    The Power Elite – C. W. Mills – Review

    Hope & Folly: United States & Unesco 1945-1985 – Preston, Herman, Schiller – Review

    The Mass Psychology of Fascism – Wilhelm Reich – Review

    Assata: An Autobiography – Assata Shakur – Review

    Culture and Imperialism – Edward W. Said – Review

    Humanism and Democratic Criticism – Edward W. Said – Review

    Orientalism – Edward W. Said – Review

    Race Matters – Cornel West – Review

    A People’s History of the United States – Howard Zinn – Review

    The Open Roads Collection:

    Simply parsed, this section is the best of the rest; works that have at once taught me extremely important information, theories and ideas, while simultaneously being presented from points of view that I don’t necessarily agree with. While critical reading is always important, there’s more than enough truth packed inside these works to justify cutting through the varied ideologically biased lenses that knowledge is presented through here:

    Shattered: Inside Hillary Clinton’s Doomed Campaign – Jonathan Allen & Amie Parnes – Review

    The Origins of Totalitarianism – Hannah Arendt – Review

    Getting Ghost: Two Young Lives & the Struggle for the Soul of an American City – Luke Bergmann – Review

    Black Against Empire – Joshua Bloom, Waldo E. Martin Jr – Review

    Finite and Infinite Games: a Vision of Life as Play & Possibility – James P. Carse – Review

    Imperial Life in the Emerald City: Inside Iraq’s Green Zone – Rajiv Chandrasekaran – Review

    We Were Eight Years in Power: An American Tragedy – Ta-Nehisi Coates – Review

    The Prophet Outcast: Trotsky, 1929-1940 – Isaac Deutscher – Review

    Secrets of the Temple: How the Federal Reserve Runs the Country – W. Greider – Review

    The Best and the Brightest – David Halberstam – Review

    The Black Jacobins: T. L’Ouverture & the San Domingo Revolution – C.L.R. James – Review

    Either/Or: A Fragment of Life – Søren Kierkegaard – Review (sorta)

    (The) State and Revolution – V.I. Lenin – Review (sorta)

    Capital – Karl Marx – Review (sorta)

    Dark Money: the Billionaires Behind the Rise of the Radical Right – Jane Mayer – Review

    The Politics of Heroin: CIA Complicity in the Global Drug Trade – Alfred W. McCoy – Review

    The New Confessions of an Economic Hit Man – John Perkins – Review

    Joe Hill – Franklin Rosemont – Review

    The Rise & Fall of the Third Reich: A History of Nazi Germany – William L. Shirer – Review

    Globalization & Its Discontents Revisited – J. E. Stiglitz – Review (sorta)

    Revolution Betrayed: What Is the Soviet Union & Where Is It Going? – Leon Trotsky – Review

    Dark Alliance: The CIA, the Contras, & the Cocaine Explosion – Gary Webb – Review

    The Last of the President’s Men – Bob Woodward – Review

    Veil: The Secret Wars of the CIA, 1981-87 – Bob Woodward – Review

    The Thomson & Twain Collection:

    If I’m prepared to claim that intellectuals like Chomsky, Said and West nourished my developing mind, it’s only fair to point out that these writers in turn nourished my soul; discovering Mark Twain at an early age helped me survive my teens, while finding my way to Hunter S. Thompson’s work just as I was getting out of high school was certainly a factor in surviving my twenties. Although both authors specialize in “fictional” works, these books (for all their problems) contain underlying messages about politics, society and injustice that still resonate with our daily experiences in the “really real” world. Unfortunately, at the time of this writing I have been unable to replace any of the Twain collections lost during my move; perhaps over time as I reacquire them, I can also add other authors who portray fact through fiction – like Upton Sinclair:

    Fear & Loathing in America – Hunter S. Thompson – Review

    Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas – Hunter S. Thompson – Review

    Fear & Loathing on the Campaign Trail ’72 – Hunter S. Thompson – Review

    Generation of Swine – Hunter S. Thompson – Review

    Hey Rube – Hunter S. Thompson – Review

    Kingdom of Fear – Hunter S. Thompson – Review

    Songs of the Doomed – Hunter S. Thompson – Review

    The Great Shark Hunt: Strange Tales from a Strange Time – Hunter S. Thompson – Review

    Collected Tales, Sketches, Speeches & Essays 1852-90 – Mark Twain – Review

    Collected Tales, Sketches, Speeches & Essays 1891-1910 – Mark Twain – Review

    Caveat Emptor:

    As any avid collector of books already knows, it is very difficult to go through life without occasionally acquiring books you don’t particularly like, don’t personally agree with or simply haven’t had enough time to read. This problem is further magnified if, like myself, you’re a bit of a sucker for history hardcovers posted on deep discount at your local big box chain bookstore. Whether it’s a matter of taste, ideology or unfamiliarity, readers are urged to approach the books in this section with a healthy dose of skepticism and/or critical thought:

    Hacks: the Break-ins & Breakdowns that Put Donald Trump in the White House – Donna Brazile – Review

    Founders’ Son: A Life of Abraham Lincoln – Richard Brookhiser – Review

    The Gravest Show on Earth: America in the Age of AIDS – Elinor Burkett – Review

    Hard Choices (original HC) – Hillary Clinton – Review

    Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies – Jared Diamond – Review

    1917: Lenin, Wilson & the Birth of the New World Disorder – Arthur Herman – Review

    The Devil’s Diary: A. Rosenberg & Stolen Secrets of the 3rd Reich – D. Kinney, R.K. Wittman – Review

    Leningrad: Siege and Symphony – Brian Moynahan – Review

    East and West – Chris Patten – Review (sorta)

    Napoleon: A Life – Andrew Roberts – Review

    Proposed Roads to Freedom – Bertrand Russell – Review (sorta)

    Freedom Bound: Law, Labor, & Civic Identity in Colonizing English America – Christopher Tomlins – Review

    Operation Long Jump – Bill Yenne – Review

    Nina Illingworth

    #89331
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    What if there was no dominating elite class telling the public how they were meant to interpret events and situations?

    If that happened then there would be a narrative dominated by whatever power group in (this idealized fiction called) “the public” believed.

    I mean even “elite v. the public” is a narrative fiction.

    There’s more than one power base, and more than one narrative going on at a time. For example, her narrative includes a naive group that believes the Russia story, and the folks I identify with see that one differently–that there’s a factional left that for reasons that escape me dismiss the Russia issue. Meanwhile we (the people who share this view) are not part of this passive spoonfed mainstream identified “public.”

    Change the power structure and you don’t eliminate narratives, you just change them.

    There’s no such thing as NOT being in ideology. But you can make a case that there are better, ie. more democratic and more humane and more environmentally aware etc. ideological visions which are defensible.

    If you want to see how all this works, compare two different narrative frames: (#1) the elite impose narratives on a passive public and so escaping that is escaping narratives, and in the meanwhile “I” (ie. whoever is saying this) am neither the ruling or elite nor the public it dupes but instead reside where there’s More Truth; AND (#2) there are always narratives, some are better than others, and it’s not as simple as an elite dominating a passive public, at least in part because “the public” is not this simple homogeneous thing.

    That’s 2 different and opposing narratives. One of which says it isn’t one. (And of course there’s more than just this 2, just focusing to make a point.)

    Neither one of which originates with a ruling elite.

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