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August 12, 2018 at 11:11 am #89326wvParticipant
Imagine:https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/what-if-there-were-no-official-narratives-4de3ee54ed0c
Caitlin Johnstone
“….situations might vary a bit from pundit to pundit and outlet to outlet, but the overall “how it is” narrative about what’s happening is the same across the board. This is the official narrative, and the plutocrat-owned media/political class has full control over it.
We all know the official narratives, right? The US and its allies are good, the latest Official Bad Guy is bad. You live in a democracy where your vote counts and your government is accountable to you and your countrymen, just like they taught you in school. The two political parties are totally different and their opposition is totally real. The news man on TV never reports any falsehoods because if he did he’d lose his job, which means that the Russian hacking thing, the Syria thing, the 9/11 thing, all happened exactly as the government told us they happened. Iraq was maybe kinda sorta a mistake, but nothing like that could ever happen again because mumble mumble cough hey look what Kanye West is doing.
Let’s consider a hypothetical scenario, though. Let’s imagine a world where there were no official narratives. About anything. At all.What if there was no dominating elite class telling the public how they were meant to interpret events and situations? What if there was only…”
August 12, 2018 at 1:05 pm #89327nittany ramModeratorDo you know of Nina Illingworth?
I follow her on twitter. She also has a blog. She’s prolific.
I think you two would see eye to eye on just about everything.
August 12, 2018 at 1:26 pm #89328Billy_TParticipantMarx said,
The ideas of the ruling class, in every epoch, are the ideas that rule.
This may sound way to pat . . . but I think it’s true: The only way to end those official narratives is to end the class system itself.
August 12, 2018 at 1:36 pm #89330wvParticipantDo you know of Nina Illingworth?
I follow her on twitter. She also has a blog. She’s prolific.
I think you two would see eye to eye on just about everything.
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Hadnt heard of her. I shall peruse her blog. I like her book selections, fwiw.
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No Is Not Enough: Resisting Trump’s Shock Politics & Winning the World We Need – Naomi Klein – Review
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The Fateful Triangle: Israel, the United States & the Palestinians (1984) – Noam Chomsky – Review
Global Discontents: Conversations on the Rising Threats to Democracy – Noam Chomsky – Review
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Who Rules the World? – Noam Chomsky – Review
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The Autobiography of Malcolm X – Alex Haley, Malcolm X – Review
The Power Elite – C. W. Mills – Review
Hope & Folly: United States & Unesco 1945-1985 – Preston, Herman, Schiller – Review
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Shattered: Inside Hillary Clinton’s Doomed Campaign – Jonathan Allen & Amie Parnes – Review
The Origins of Totalitarianism – Hannah Arendt – Review
Getting Ghost: Two Young Lives & the Struggle for the Soul of an American City – Luke Bergmann – Review
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We Were Eight Years in Power: An American Tragedy – Ta-Nehisi Coates – Review
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Capital – Karl Marx – Review (sorta)
Dark Money: the Billionaires Behind the Rise of the Radical Right – Jane Mayer – Review
The Politics of Heroin: CIA Complicity in the Global Drug Trade – Alfred W. McCoy – Review
The New Confessions of an Economic Hit Man – John Perkins – Review
Joe Hill – Franklin Rosemont – Review
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Revolution Betrayed: What Is the Soviet Union & Where Is It Going? – Leon Trotsky – Review
Dark Alliance: The CIA, the Contras, & the Cocaine Explosion – Gary Webb – Review
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Veil: The Secret Wars of the CIA, 1981-87 – Bob Woodward – Review
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Generation of Swine – Hunter S. Thompson – Review
Hey Rube – Hunter S. Thompson – Review
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Nina Illingworth
August 12, 2018 at 1:51 pm #89331znModeratorWhat if there was no dominating elite class telling the public how they were meant to interpret events and situations?
If that happened then there would be a narrative dominated by whatever power group in (this idealized fiction called) “the public” believed.
I mean even “elite v. the public” is a narrative fiction.
There’s more than one power base, and more than one narrative going on at a time. For example, her narrative includes a naive group that believes the Russia story, and the folks I identify with see that one differently–that there’s a factional left that for reasons that escape me dismiss the Russia issue. Meanwhile we (the people who share this view) are not part of this passive spoonfed mainstream identified “public.”
Change the power structure and you don’t eliminate narratives, you just change them.
There’s no such thing as NOT being in ideology. But you can make a case that there are better, ie. more democratic and more humane and more environmentally aware etc. ideological visions which are defensible.
If you want to see how all this works, compare two different narrative frames: (#1) the elite impose narratives on a passive public and so escaping that is escaping narratives, and in the meanwhile “I” (ie. whoever is saying this) am neither the ruling or elite nor the public it dupes but instead reside where there’s More Truth; AND (#2) there are always narratives, some are better than others, and it’s not as simple as an elite dominating a passive public, at least in part because “the public” is not this simple homogeneous thing.
That’s 2 different and opposing narratives. One of which says it isn’t one. (And of course there’s more than just this 2, just focusing to make a point.)
Neither one of which originates with a ruling elite.
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