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  • #6867
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    Report: Rice video was sent to NFL

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11503851/ray-rice-videotape-sent-nfl-executive-april

    ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. — A law enforcement official says he sent a video of Ray Rice punching his then-fiancée to an NFL executive five months ago, while league executives have insisted they didn’t see the violent images until this week.

    The official played The Associated Press a 12-second voicemail from an NFL office number on April 9 confirming the video arrived. A female voice expresses thanks and says: “You’re right. It’s terrible.”

    The law enforcement official, speaking to the AP on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation, says he had no further communication with any NFL employee and can’t confirm anyone watched the video. He said he was unauthorized to release the video but shared it unsolicited because he wanted the NFL to have it before deciding on Rice’s punishment.

    The NFL has repeatedly said it asked for but could not obtain the video of Rice hitting Janay Palmer — who is now his wife — at an Atlantic City casino in February.

    The league says it has no record of the video and that no one in the league office had seen it until it was released by TMZ on Monday. Asked about the voicemail Wednesday, NFL officials repeated their assertion that no league official had seen the video before Monday.

    “We have no knowledge of this,” NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy said Wednesday. “We are not aware of anyone in our office who possessed or saw the video before it was made public on Monday. We will look into it.”

    The law enforcement official said he sent a DVD copy of the security camera video to an NFL office and included his contact information. He asked the AP not to release the name of the NFL executive, for fear that the information would identify him as the source.

    Hours after portions of the video were made public by TMZ, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell suspended Rice indefinitely and Baltimore terminated his contract. Rice had originally been suspended for two games, and team officials had praised him for his apologies and actions after his arrest for aggravated assault.

    Goodell and team officials said they were taking more severe action because of the violence in the video.

    The NFL commissioner told CBS on Tuesday that “no one in the NFL, to my knowledge” had seen the video of what happened on the elevator until it was posted online.

    “We assumed that there was a video. We asked for video. But we were never granted that opportunity,” Goodell said.

    In a memo to the NFL’s 32 teams Wednesday, Goodell said the league asked law enforcement for the video but not the casino.

    “In the context of a criminal investigation, information obtained outside of law enforcement that has not been tested by prosecutors or by the court system is not necessarily a reliable basis for imposing league discipline,” he wrote.

    The video, shown to the AP on Monday, is slightly longer than the TMZ version and includes some audio.

    Rice and Palmer — now Janay Rice — can be heard shouting obscenities at each other, and she appears to spit at Rice right before he throws a brutal punch. “Outside The Lines” reported Wednesday that Rice spat at Palmer twice, including once in the elevator just before the punch. After she collapses, he drags her out of the elevator and is met by some hotel staff. One of them can be heard saying, “She’s drunk, right?” and then, “No cops.”

    Rice had been charged with felony aggravated assault in the case, but in May he was accepted into a pretrial intervention program that allowed him to avoid jail time and could lead to the charge being purged from his record. A prominent New Jersey lawmaker called Tuesday for that decision to be reviewed.

    #6869
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    “…The law enforcement official, speaking to the AP on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation, says he had no further communication with any NFL employee and can’t confirm anyone watched the video. He said he was unauthorized to release the video but shared it unsolicited because he wanted the NFL to have it before deciding on Rice’s punishment…”
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    A “law enforcement official” went into an evidence room and made
    a copy of evidence in a criminal case (thats still essentially pending) and
    simply decided to send a copy to the NFL ?

    Yup, thats ‘unauthorized’ behavior, alright. I would think Somebody may
    lose their job over that.

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    #6878
    Mackeyser
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    Sports is the crucible of human virtue. The distillate remains are human vice.

    #6897
    Avatar photozn
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    “…The law enforcement official, speaking to the AP on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation, says he had no further communication with any NFL employee and can’t confirm anyone watched the video. He said he was unauthorized to release the video but shared it unsolicited because he wanted the NFL to have it before deciding on Rice’s punishment…”

    A “law enforcement official” went into an evidence room and made
    a copy of evidence in a criminal case (thats still essentially pending) and
    simply decided to send a copy to the NFL ?

    Yup, thats ‘unauthorized’ behavior, alright. I would think Somebody may
    lose their job over that.

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    v

    Good catch…I bet a lot of people are overlooking that. That’s interesting.

    Because then the story that law enforcement wouldn’t send it to them is consistent.

    I wonder if they felt they could or could not watch a copy that was sent privately in violation of local law enforcement policy. (?)

    Hmm. This story may not be over.

    For example, if I understand this issue right, these 2 paragraphs from the same article seemingly contradict one another:

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    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/

    Despite the NFL saying all week it had not seen the full video of Ray Rice punching and knocking out his then-fiancee last February, a source told the Associated Press that law enforcement had in fact sent the tape to someone at the league office in April.

    The source could not tell AP for certain if anyone at the NFL offices had watched the video, and he had no further contact with any other NFL employees. The AP report said the source was unauthorized to release the video but “shared it unsolicited, because they wanted the NFL to have it before deciding on Rice’s punishment.”

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    If the person who sent it was unauthorized to send it (paragraph 2), then, LAW ENFORCEMENT didn’t send it (paragraph 1).

    Sorry Mack, this story may not be the killer yet it first looked like it was going to be.

    #6944
    Dak
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    Good points on the unauthorized law enforcement angle.

    But, it doesn’t explain away whispers from NFL officials to reporters that they did indeed see the video and then made it seem like the video would show people that Janae also deserved blame and why it was only a 2-game suspension.

    Something more happened behind the scenes, methinks.

    No matter what happens, there is a lynch mob mentality toward the NFL office. They better come out and actually address reporters’ questions. A quote here and there doesn’t suffice at this point.

    #6947
    Avatar photowv
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    Good points on the unauthorized law enforcement angle.

    But, it doesn’t explain away whispers from NFL officials to reporters that they did indeed see the video and then made it seem like the video would show people that Janae also deserved blame and why it was only a 2-game suspension.

    Something more happened behind the scenes, methinks.

    No matter what happens, there is a lynch mob mentality toward the NFL office. They better come out and actually address reporters’ questions. A quote here and there doesn’t suffice at this point.

    The ‘unauthorized sending’ issue aside,
    I just dont think Goodell had the
    experience to deal with domestic-violence issues
    and apparently he didnt have the inclination to learn
    about the issues.

    NOW, of course (due to the backlash) he has the
    inclination to learn about the issue. Which,
    in the end, is a good thing.

    Goodell knows about money and PR — and this was/is a
    PR nightmare. So he will educate himself
    on these issues.

    I hope the colleges are paying attention
    to all this.

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    • This reply was modified 10 years, 3 months ago by Avatar photowv.
    #6950
    Avatar photojoemad
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    maybe the Rice tape is in the same bucket as the SpyGate tapes….. Roger G. should be canned immediately.

    Patriots’ Playoff record:
    Spy Gate era = 11-3
    post Spy Gate – 3-5

    Patriot’s SB Record
    Spy Gate Era = 3-0
    Non-spy Gate = 0-3, (counting the 85 Bears SB…..)

    • This reply was modified 10 years, 3 months ago by Avatar photojoemad.
    #6952
    Mackeyser
    Moderator

    yep, Joe… funny how they Scott Pioli isn’t such a damn draft wizard when the guys on the field aren’t allowed to cheat…

    Truly a scar on the face of the NFL.

    Sports is the crucible of human virtue. The distillate remains are human vice.

    #6954
    Avatar photoAgamemnon
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    Goodell needs plenty of “buffers”. Then he needs to lie his ass off. 😉

    Agamemnon

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