I just want to point out

sanbagger wrote:

The team is going through the motions. That’s usually an indicator a coach is on his last legs.

I see them defending the coaches. I took that remark about “the motions” as being aimed at the players. I didn’t read into it anything other than TG being frustrated and asking players to step up. I also didn;t see anything on the field that indicates players quitting. I did see that with Linehan so it’s easy to spot when it’s happening.

Another article on this:

link: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/rams-players-stand-behind-embattled-coach-jeff-fisher/

sanbagger wrote:

Couldn’t that be considered another example of going through the motions?

I didn’t watch the game, just kept up with the Huddle chat, so I can’t say I watched guys mailing it in, but I’ll say this…the best part of my day/night was the Lambchops I put on the grill.

Not to me it can’t be taken that way.

I did watch the game and no I did not see players just mailing it in and quitting the way they did with Linehan.

If anything thing I saw them pressing and therefore (as is the way with pressing) making mistakes.

I saw some plays where players were clearly putting their own bodies on the line out of sheer pride. There were several examples of that. In fact that was one of the defining things about this game for me—the number of times that happened and the number of players who did it.

sanbagger wrote:

zn wrote:

Not to me it can’t be taken that way.

It seems to me that Gurley doesn’t agree with your assessment.

I get that he was frustrated but sometimes that’s when players are the most honest.

I read the other attachment you gave and honestly the only one that stood at to me was Saffold.

I get that coaches are trying and I also believe it’s on the Joes to perform…but if the Joe keeps making the same mistake game after game the coaches have to say enough is enough and show them what part of the bench you want them to sit at. They did this to Grob, and even that’s a little suspect IMO…I think it was a strategic benching because the next 2 DE’s were guys he could post 2 decent games and make it appear as though it was a great move.

We just completely differ on every word of that. This is nothing like 2008. I see frustrated players pressing in a loss and also putting their bodies on the line out of pride in a loss. I also don’t see in any of their remarks the things you’re seeing.

We just completely disagree on this one.

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sanbagger wrote:

I feel when I start seeing these kinds of things in the media, it usually means the end is near for a coach.

That may be true. It may not.

But I was talking about what specifically I saw. And what I saw was an offense killing itself with mistakes, but then the players trying to fight through that with proud moments of individual effort and sacrifice. That part REALLY stood out.

Having seen a team quit under Linehan, that’s far from what they were showing yesterday.

BUT then that has nothing to do either way with whether Fisher stays or not. It’s just about what I saw in the game, taken in itself.

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