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May 27, 2018 at 6:16 pm #86668znModerator
Here’s How the Government Managed to Lose Track of 1,500 Migrant Children
The problem is getting “even more disturbing” under Trump, says an expert on immigrant detention.NOAH LANARDMAY
At a Senate hearing last month, Steven Wagner told legislators that the refugee resettlement office he oversees had lost track of nearly 1,500 migrant children. In Wagner’s words, the Department of Health and Human Services’ Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR) was “unable to determine with certainty the whereabouts” of 1,475 children between October and December. The admission raised an obvious question: How do you lose 1,500 kids?
The answer to that question is even more important now that the Trump administration is seeking to criminally prosecute everyone who crosses the US-Mexico border, including parents. The policy is likely to separate thousands of families who arrive at the border by placing parents into the criminal justice system. Without their parents, children will be placed into the custody of ORR.
The agency will then work to find the children sponsors—ideally close relatives—who can take care of them while their parents are prosecuted. The agency is already responsible for finding sponsors—often parents who came before their children—for minors who arrive at the border alone. At the April hearing, Wagner said that 80 percent of the sponsors ORR was able to reach late last year were still hosting the children placed with them. Most of the other minors could not be located, although some were determined to have moved in with non-sponsors, run away, or been deported.
I interviewed Michelle Brané, the director of the Migrant Rights and Justice program at the Women’s Refugee Commission and a leading expert on immigration detention and the ORR, about how the agency loses track of children and why the Trump administration’s policies could make the problem worse.
What does it mean when ORR loses track of a child?
The short answer to that is that we don’t know. Once a child is released to a parent or a sponsor—and very often a sponsor is somebody who is not in any way related to the child—ORR does very little to no follow-up. ORR’s position is that they no longer have any responsibility for that child. In most cases, they will do a follow-up phone call to check in. If there is no answer or if there is a problem that is uncovered by that phone call, I think they said [at the hearing] they may call child protective services. But other than that they don’t do anything. As a result, they have numerous cases where they have identified that that child is either no longer in that house or not reachable, but they have done nothing to follow up.
Children may have moved—they may have gone to live with another family member—and things may be OK. Or there have been cases where these children end up in the hands of traffickers. So it is possible that some of those [children] could be in very dangerous and vulnerable situations.
Now that we have this new population of children who have been separated from their parents, it’s even more disturbing. [White House Chief of Staff John] Kelly made a comment that it was no big deal because the kids go to “foster care or whatever.” But the “whatever” is really a problem. If you’re separating a child from their parent and then you’re just losing them, that is extremely problematic. If you’re a parent who has been separated from your child at the border, you may not be able to find them again.
Who are the unaccompanied minors being placed with relatives and sponsors by ORR?
They can range in ages from babies to 17. The majority of the children are coming from Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala. They are children who have been deemed to be unaccompanied. In the past, what that has meant was that they arrive without a parent or legal guardian who could care for them. They’re transferred to [ORR] so that they can then find a relative or somebody to place that child with and care for them. Now, under the new policies of the Trump administration, we’re seeing many many more of these children who arrive with a parent or guardian but who are being separated from them. The US government is actually turning them into unaccompanied children.
Who does the agency place unaccompanied minors with?
It really varies. The first priority would be to find a parent. In many cases, there is no parent or guardian in the United States, but there may be a relative like an aunt or an older sibling. You sort of go down the line of family ties. In some cases, there is no close family member who is able to come forward so a sponsor might be identified. That could be a friend of the family, or it could be a complete stranger who is vetted and offers to take that child in. And those are the ones that are the riskiest, for obvious reasons.
Is losing track of children a new issue?
The lack of follow-up is a longstanding problem. The Women’s Commission and other organizations working with unaccompanied children have been concerned with this for over a decade. Several years ago, there was a raid that revealed that there was a group of children who had been released by ORR who were being labor-trafficked. They were being forced to work in a poultry plant. As a result, there was more attention on the reality that when you release a child and they don’t show up for [immigration] court, it may be because they are in a dangerous situation and need protection, not prosecution.
How has the problem changed under Trump?
What we’ve seen in response to some of the policies under Trump is that fewer parents are able to come forward to claim their children. So children are sitting in custody for longer periods of time. And a smaller percentage of children are going to parents, compared to sponsors or other more distant relatives.
Has much been done to improve ORR’s follow-up capabilities?
Virtually nothing has done to address this issue, in my view. There have been some efforts to get [ORR] to expand their follow-up programs. But overall that hasn’t changed much. The latest effort is a memorandum of understanding between [Immigration and Customs Enforcement] and ORR that includes many provisions, one of which is to have ICE conduct background checks on people to whom ORR releases children. The other follow-up will be that ICE will look for immigration violations for anyone in the household.
Is ICE’s involvement in the placement process a cause for concern?
Absolutely. The result of that memorandum will be that fewer parents will come forward because they will be afraid.
How could ORR’s placement procedures be improved?
First of all, we would recommend not separating children from their parents, because in doing so you’re creating a much bigger problem. In terms of the ORR system, the bones of it work. The issues is that they really should be more putting more resources into post-release services for children to make sure that they know that they’re supposed to go to court [and] that they get an attorney. We’ve learned that children who have an advocate or an attorney are more than 90 percent likely to show up for their hearings, and they’re likely to win their case. That is a much better use of resources than [having] to spend them on the back end with children who have disappeared and absconded.
What are the most important takeaways about how ORR is operating today?
I think the main issues are that we currently have an ORR system that doesn’t follow kids after release, which makes no sense. When they say they disappeared, we don’t know what happened. They could be in danger or they could just have moved. And the fact that nobody knows is ridiculous.
This administration, in policies like trying to prosecute parents for smuggling [and] claiming that parents are endangering their children when they bring them, is discouraging parents from coming forward, which puts the children into even more danger and more risk of being with strangers or non-safe people.
And then finally the new practice of separating children from their parents at the border is just exacerbating an already inefficient system. You’re throwing hundreds—thousands—more children into this system. You’ve actually separated them from a parent and then you give them to ORR, whose job it is to reunify them with a parent. [It] is a colossal waste of money, and is overwhelming our system, and is just plain cruel.
May 28, 2018 at 1:01 pm #86698ZooeyModeratorI can’t believe I am seeing this happen in the United States. I can’t believe hatred and racism have bounced back with such strength that not only are we seeing racists assault people verbally and physically, our government itself is violently racist. And where the hell is congress? I can’t believe more than a handful of Republicans would go along with this. And where are the Democrats? This is insane.
June 17, 2018 at 11:53 am #87423znModeratorTrump could stop family separation policy with a phone call, senior Republican says
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-today-06-15-18/h_dc9d4446085477c7dbe9af3144b292cc
Sen. Lindsay Graham told CNN’s Kate Bolduan that President Trump could stop the Department of Homeland Security from separating young, undocumented children from their parents when families are detained for illegally crossing the southern border.
“President Trump could stop this policy with a phone call,” Graham said. “I’ll go tell him: If you don’t like families being separated, you can tell DHS, ‘Stop doing it.'”
Earlier today, President Trump falsely blamed Democrats for the thousands of migrant children who have been separated from their parents at the US-Mexico border. His administration’s zero-tolerance policy to refer anyone caught crossing the border illegally for federal prosecution has led to a notable uptick in the number of children taken from their parents since the change was announced in May.However, Graham added that the separation policy discourages illegal immigration.
“I’m sure that people are going to be less likely to bring their kids to America if they get separated than if they lived together and get released into the country. I’m real sure about that,” Graham said.
Trump could stop family separation policy with a phone call, Lindsey Graham says pic.twitter.com/1VYy79jjGz
— Meg Wagner (@megwagner) June 15, 2018
June 17, 2018 at 6:08 pm #87425znModeratorEmployee quits job at for-profit child prison camp after being told to order three siblings not to hug each other.
“[they were] huddled together, tears streaming down their faces”https://t.co/WHBQ2LVwdD
— Matt Bors (@MattBors) June 15, 2018
June 18, 2018 at 1:50 pm #87431PA RamParticipantSo, today MSNBC had on a priest to discuss whether or not the taking away of migrant children from their parents was indeed biblical, as Jeff Sessions and Sarah Sanders have claimed.
We are now at the stage of debating whether something is justified based on whether it is biblical or not.
Our laws apparently can now go through a biblical test.
So I don’t care personally whether it’s biblical or not. The bible shouldn’t have anything to do with it.
Is it morally right or not?
Is the next step creeping theocracy? And who defines which texts matter and which don’t? And how they are interpreted?
Also–Americans satisfaction with direction the United States is going is now at a 12 year high.
Trump is well on his way to becoming king.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/235739/satisfaction-direction-reaches-year-high.aspx
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
June 18, 2018 at 3:08 pm #87433znModeratorThe mainstream media is doing an embarrassing job covering Trump’s family separation policy
The NYT, Washington Post, and others have uncritically parroted Trump’s false framing.
AARON RUPAR
The policy of separating immigrant children from their parents and detaining them in cages was implemented by President Trump, and could be ended by him at any time.
It could also be ended by Congress. A group of Senate Democrats has banded together in support of a bill that would do just that, but not a single Republican has come out in support of it. Given that Republicans hold a one-vote majority in the Senate, all it would take is two Republican senators to join 49 Democrats and independents and pass legislation that would end family separation. (Or 11 Republican senators if one of them decided to filibuster the legislation.)
The policy is Trump’s, Democrats are united in opposition, and Republican members of Congress have the power to end it, but refuse to do so. Those are the basic facts of the matter. But if you read publications like the New York Times, Washington Post, and Politico, you might be confused about what’s going on.
On Saturday afternoon, the Washington Post published an article framing Trump’s family separation policy as a false equivalency.
“GOP, Democrats are outraged but at odds over ending family separation at border,” reads the article’s headline.
GOP, Democrats are outraged but at odds over ending family separation at border https://t.co/KD2B3DNN7g
— Washington Post (@washingtonpost) June 17, 2018
Republicans, however, are not “outraged” enough to actually do anything to stop family separation. If they were, they could join with Democrats and support legislation to end it.
A Politico article published Sunday makes the same mistake. The piece, headlined “Pressure mounts for Trump to address family separations at border,” discusses letters Republican senators have written to DHS and HHS as if it’s the most members of Congress can do to end the policy. From the article:
GOP Sens. Susan Collins of Maine and Jeff Flake of Arizona amped up the pressure, too, by sending letters to Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen and Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar seeking to clarify the policy.
“Secretary Nielsen recently appeared before the U.S. Senate and testified that immigrant parents and children who present themselves at U.S. ports of entry to request asylum will not be separated. Despite Secretary Nielsen’s testimony, a number of media outlets have reported instances where parents and children seeking asylum at a port of entry have been separated,” the two senators wrote. “These accounts and others like them concern us.”
A piece from the Associated Press is headlined, “Family separation starts to divide Republicans.” But in reality, Republicans are united in their unwillingness to do anything about the policy.
Family separation policy starts dividing Republicans (from @AP) https://t.co/7soBAveUKh
— Eric Tucker (@etuckerAP) June 18, 2018
The New York Times also rushed to give Republicans — specifically, First Lady Melania Trump — way too much credit.
In an article about a statement Melania’s office released on Sunday claiming that “Mrs. Trump hates to see children separated from their families and hopes both sides of the aisle can finally come together to achieve successful immigration reform,” the Times uncritically spread the false premise of Melania’s statement — that family separation is a “both sides” issue.
In a rare public intervention, Melania Trump urged “both sides of the aisle” to come together to stop federal authorities from separating children from their parents when apprehended at the border https://t.co/8I9TK6c1Sq
— NYT Politics (@nytpolitics) June 17, 2018
In another tweet about the article, the Times spread the lie President Trump has been repeatedly making about his policy — that it somehow isn’t his fault.
By saying "both sides" needed to agree, Melania Trump adopted President Trump's argument that the situation was caused by political stalemate rather than a policy he initiated https://t.co/639PcSelqQ
— NYT Politics (@nytpolitics) June 17, 2018
In that tweet, the Times uses “argument” as a euphemism for “lie.” It wasn’t even the first time over the weekend they did that.
Consider this tweet:
President Trump has steadfastly tried to deflect blame for the separation of children from their parents, consistently dissembling about why it is occurring https://t.co/ccwE3pDOwn
— NYT Politics (@nytpolitics) June 17, 2018
“Steadfastly tried to deflect blame” is a tortured euphemism the Times used instead of telling the blunt truth — the family separation policy was implemented by the Trump administration, and he’s lying about it.
June 18, 2018 at 6:07 pm #87434ZooeyModeratorI think I am completely losing my shit over this.
I am doing my best to hold on, but I am seriously being tested.
And in all the arguments I am having about this, the defenders cannot come out and say, “Taking kids away from parents is good policy because…” All the defenses of this policy are “Obama, Clinton, Hateful Democrats, Fake News, Deep State, Elian Gonzalez, old laws.”
I will lose friends over this.
But I just cannot…I cannot.
June 18, 2018 at 11:50 pm #87437znModeratorJune 19, 2018 at 10:08 am #87444Billy_TParticipantLatest CNN poll has roughly 2/3rds of Americans against the Trump policy of ripping babies out of the arms of their mothers. That number would be much higher if not for the majority support among Republicans. Yes, close to 60% of Republicans support kidnapping children from their families, all of whom are already traumatized from 2000 mile journeys, escaping horrific violence at home and along the way.
Some other things to note: The images we see on TV — at least most of them — are selected/sanitized by the Trump government. Journalists are not allowed into the vast majority of these concentration camps. The images are also less than subtle, in that they focus almost exclusively on teen boys, an attempt to make the connection with MS-13, no doubt.
Sorry, but I find all of this straight out of the Nazi playbook, just as I saw Trump’s initial campaign. Same attempt to create a “volk,” and whip them up into a frenzy of fear and hatred toward “the Other,” and the enemies on Hitler’s list are nearly identical to Trump’s. I know that breaks the Godwin rule, but I don’t give a shit. It needs to be said in public. My saying it here is virtually meaningless, of course. It needs to be said so millions of Americans understand what is actually happening in this country, and what has been happening ever since Trump came down the escalator three years ago, spewing Nazi-propaganda about immigrants . . . moving on to a “total ban of Muslims,” etc. Just substitute “Jews” for that last one and you get the early stages of Nazism.
This is a huge test for us, for US, and I am not sanguine our future. Trump has made it far more difficult for us to muster the requisite outrage for individual tragedies like this, because he’s overwhelmed us with so many other outrages of the day, even the hour. I think Americans are burnt out, and that’s part of the plan. Of course, that aspect, in general, didn’t start with Trump, but no one prior to him has concentrated so much of this into so short a period of time.
June 19, 2018 at 1:46 pm #87448ZooeyModeratorNotSanguineRam.
I like it.
June 19, 2018 at 2:12 pm #87449znModeratorOver 10,000 migrant children are now in US government custody at 100 shelters in 14 states
The number of migrant children held without their parents by the US government has surged 21% since last month to 10,773 children, the Washington Post reported.
The uptick comes after the Trump administration imposed a new “zero tolerance” policy to prosecute migrants who cross the US border illegally.
The policy means that migrant parents who cross the border with their children are forcibly separated while they await criminal prosecution.
The Trump administration’s new “zero tolerance” policy toward migrants who cross the US border illegally has driven up the number of migrant children held in government custody without their parents, the Washington Post reported Tuesday.
The US Health and Human Services Department said it was holding 10,773 migrant children in custody as of Tuesday — up 21% from the 8,886 it was holding a month earlier.
The surge comes in the wake of the Trump administration’s new tactic to criminally prosecute every person who crosses into the US illegally, which requires them to be separated from any children they brought with them while they’re detained.
But it’s unclear exactly how many of the 10,773 children being held in government custody were actually forcibly separated from their parents — a Customs and Border Protection official told lawmakers at a hearing last week that 658 children had been separated from 638 adults between May 6 and May 19 under the new zero tolerance policy.
Many of the other children may have arrived at the border unaccompanied. They’re typically held in government custody briefly before being placed with “sponsors,” who are usually parents or immediate relatives of the children.
The shelters the children are staying in are at 95% capacity and are expected to add thousands of bed spaces in the coming weeks, one HHS official told the Post.
To house migrant children, HHS relies on “an existing network of approximately 100 shelters in 14 states.”
HHS has also reportedly weighed housing migrant children on military bases, but the HHS official told the Post that measure is being considered only as a “last option.”
The Trump administration has come under fire in recent weeks for its policies toward migrant children. The family separation policy sparked an uproar, particularly after the White House chief of staff John Kelly dismissed concerns that the policy was “cruel” during a recent interview with NPR.
“The children will be taken care of — put into foster care or whatever,” Kelly said. “But the big point is they elected to come illegally into the United States and this is a technique that no one hopes will be used extensively or for very long.”
Anger over the issue reached a boiling point last week, when a month-old piece of news resurfaced, prompting Trump critics to assail the government for losing track of 1,475 immigrant children who arrived at the border alone.
But both the Trump administration and immigration advocates have sought to tamp down concerns about those children, many of whom may have deliberately chosen not to tell the federal government where they are.
June 19, 2018 at 2:14 pm #87450znModeratorJune 19, 2018 at 2:21 pm #87451PA RamParticipantI swear if I ever see one of these Trump-supporting evangelicals standing outside an abortion clinic and crying about saving the “babies”I will walk up and laugh in their face. The Republicans have become a party of insane racists trying to do what they can to save the white race in this enclosed sort of white island. They are scared and ignorant little people buying into any propaganda that supports their inner racisim and using it as justification for all sorts of cruel behavior.
And why stop here?
It starts with children and moves on to dissenters.
This group can rationalize anything.
Fox News: “Yes, Democrats are being jailed but that’s the law of the land now and you have to obey the law.”
We aren’t that far from a nazi styled future.
One political party is damn near there.
Once you have the party to build from…
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
June 19, 2018 at 8:32 pm #87457wvParticipantedit – couldnt get the tom tomorrow cartoon to fit but here’sthe link:
https://thenib.com/this-just-in-we-re-screwed- This reply was modified 6 years, 5 months ago by wv.
June 19, 2018 at 9:37 pm #87459June 19, 2018 at 10:29 pm #87462znModeratorTrump’s statement that immigrants will “infest our Country” probably sounds better in the original German. https://t.co/k7FBgBkCHQ
— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) June 19, 2018
June 20, 2018 at 7:39 am #87470znModerator.@Zac_Petkanas says on Fox News a 10-year-old girl with Down Syndrome was separated from her mother at the border.
Corey Lewandowski responds: "Womp womp." pic.twitter.com/cZMXWmwbjw
— Jon Passantino (@passantino) June 19, 2018
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Corey Lewandowski, who said "womp womp" on national TV today regarding a 10-year old immigrant girl with Down Syndrome being taken from her mother, works for a PAC that gets donations from a company that owns private immigration detention facilities. https://t.co/CQJRCGfSXy pic.twitter.com/rztMztYisI
— Aaron Sankin (@ASankin) June 20, 2018
July 12, 2018 at 9:07 am #88009znModeratorThe Department of Justice tells a judge it cannot reunite a child and parent because the parent's location is unknown. It also says “records show the parent and child might be U.S. citizens.” https://t.co/LfwCFqBxNp pic.twitter.com/aUUSpUJCLO
— Ventura County Star (@vcstar) July 12, 2018
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