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January 13, 2020 at 10:04 pm #110408znModerator
Insight into new Rams defensive coordinator Brandon Staley from the coach who hired him three times
Rich Hammond
The Blue Streaks of John Carroll University needed a defensive coordinator in 2013, and fast.
The one they had lined up bolted for the NFL early in spring practice, leaving first-year coach Tom Arth with a big void. A trusted colleague suggested Arth look to the University of Tennessee and at a 30-year-old graduate assistant named Brandon Staley.
That started a six-year journey for Staley, one that culminated last week in the Rams’ decision to hire him as their new defensive coordinator.
A former quarterback, Staley already had put in six years as a graduate assistant, a Division III position coach and a community-college coordinator before he met Arth. Staley was young, but he impressed Arth enough to get the job at John Carroll. In 2013, the Blue Streaks went 9-2 and allowed fewer than 10 points in nine of their 11 games. After a year at an FCS school, Staley chose to return to John Carroll in 2015 and the team went 8-2. In 2016, the Blue Streaks reached the Division III national semifinals and finished 12-2.
Soon after, Arth was hired at the University of Tennessee-Chattanooga and brought Staley with him, but before the 2017 season, Staley was hired by the Chicago Bears to work under then-defensive coordinator Vic Fangio as the outside linebackers coach.
Arth, now the head coach at the University of Akron, maintained a close relationship with Staley during his three years with Fangio in Chicago and Denver. Arth was thrilled to hear that Staley would be joining Sean McVay’s staff with the Rams. He spoke on the phone with The Athletic on Monday to share some insights about Staley’s personality and defensive mindset.
(This interview has been lightly edited.)
How did you even become acquainted with Brandon to start with?
First of all, I’m just so, so excited for Brandon. He’s going to do such an incredible job for the Rams organization. When I first got to know Brandon, it’s kind of an interesting story. I became the head coach at my alma mater, John Carroll University, which is a prominent school in the National Football League (having produced several players and executives). I hired Jerry Schuplinski to be our defensive coordinator and had him for a couple months. We got into spring practice, and after the first or second spring practice, he got a call from Josh McDaniels, who was his college teammate, and Josh brought him to New England. So when Jerry left, I reached out to some people that I have great respect for, to look for a defensive coordinator. Jonathan Gannon, who is in Indianapolis now as defensive backs coach for the Colts — Jonathan had known Brandon growing up, I think through AAU basketball. They built a really strong relationship through that and through football and coaching. Jonathan told me, ‘There is not a better person you could talk to.”
Coming from him, that meant a lot to me, so of course, I called Brandon, I interviewed him. It was as big of a no-brainer as you can possibly imagine. Within 30 seconds of the interview, you knew there was just something really special about Brandon, just something really different. His personality, his way, his ability to teach, his knowledge and expertise and his ability to connect, all of it is really rare and it shows through pretty instantaneously. I’m sure Sean (McVay), when he met him, I’m sure he felt similarly. I knew in that moment that we were going to hire Brandon. We had him for the first year I was head coach. He went to James Madison for a year and, I think, missed what we had at John Carroll. When he left, I hired Chris Shula. Then Chris, after a year, got hired by Tom Telesco and the Chargers organization, and now obviously he’s working for Sean (as the Rams’ assistant linebackers coach).
When Chris left, I called Brandon, just because we had talked all the time, throughout the year. I knew he missed it. He missed John Carroll, he missed working and doing it the way we do it. I just called him and kind of threw it (the idea of a return) out there, not really knowing what to expect. Sure enough, he was all for it. I remember that being — it said a lot about Brandon and the courage he had to leave a premier Division I FCS program to come back to a Division III school. Nobody understood that, outside our circle. Nobody could understand why he did that, but he did it for all the right reasons. Brandon came back and was our D-coordinator in 2015. Again, top-25 team in the country. Then in 2016 we made it to the national semifinals and finished third in the country. From there, we went to Chattanooga together and before spring practice started, he got hired by the Chicago Bears and Brandon went to work for Coach (Matt) Nagy and Vic, and has done a great job.
For people who might wonder about a 37-year-old, first-time NFL defensive coordinator, what about Brandon makes you confident that he’s ready for this?
I think you have to start with his ability to relate, his ability to galvanize a group and bring them together, believing in his style of play. I think you have to start there, with his leadership. From there, I think you look at his expertise. Brandon is as good of a football coach as I’ve ever been around. That goes back to my time as a player. Brandon is so smart. You hear how people describe Sean and his football acumen. Honestly, that’s how I feel about Brandon. I think he’s got this incredible, incredible football mind. The game comes very easily to him. He works extremely hard at it. Very well-prepared, very smart and detailed. He just has this innate ability to understand opposing offenses.
I think that goes back to his experience. He was a quarterback. He grew up playing quarterback and was a college quarterback. He sees the game from an offensive perspective and that’s how he coaches defense. I think he starts out with, “OK, what are they trying to do? And how do we take that away? Who are they and who are their best players and how do we take them away and how do we take away the intentions they have?” He’s just got such an incredible feel. He has great timing. He’s smart in his calls and aggressive when he needs to be and conservative when he needs to be. I think he’s got such a bright future ahead of him. For him to be a defensive coordinator at 37 in the National Football League and to have climbed that ladder as fast as he has, honestly it doesn’t surprise me. I would have recommended Brandon to be the D-coordinator for anybody in the country in 2013. He’s got something really special to him. He’s a guy that, a couple years from now, people are going to be talking about as a head coaching candidate.
By all indications, he aced the interview process with Sean McVay. It sounds like a lot of what you’re saying here …
Very rarely does somebody have the ability to come in and just absolutely exceed every expectation that you could possibly have. I really feel like that’s what Brandon does.
Rams fans obviously are interested in what Brandon will bring scheme-wise. In interviews, he has said that even before he got hired by Vic Fangio, he studied Fangio’s defenses a lot. Did you see that? And did he bring a lot of that stuff to your teams?
Absolutely. Vic was the coordinator for the 49ers at that time. I remember studying the 49ers structurally, very similar to what we were doing. I think the great thing about Brandon’s defense is that it’s multiple. It’s driven by matchups, which is the NFL game. It can be what it needs to be, when it needs to be that. Brandon is smart enough to understand that and understand what his players do, what they do well and what their strengths and weaknesses are. He understands that it’s about putting them in position to be as successful as they can be, regardless of what your intended scheme is. Brandon is going to put the Rams players in great position to be successful. I would expect it to be very multiple. I would expect to see a variety of fronts. I would expect to see a variety of pressures, some exotic pressures on third down and some different coverages, multiple coverages and a team that adjusts based on formations and motions and alignments. He does a great job and makes it really difficult for opposing offenses.
And I imagine he might have some thoughts on how to use Aaron Donald …
It’s funny. We talked the morning after all the news broke. Obviously, Aaron Donald is one of the best players in the National Football League. (Brandon) was talking about how he reminds him of a guy that we coached at John Carroll. (laughs) Just the skill set. At that level obviously it’s all relative, but there were different ways we used that player and how we aligned him and created matchups for him and things like that. He’s really excited about that. He’s already thinking about how he’s going to use Aaron.
January 15, 2020 at 1:50 am #110451znModeratorSean McVay makes bold bet on unproven defensive coordinator Brandon Staley\
Lindsey Thiry
THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. — Hiring Brandon Staley as the defensive coordinator of the Los Angeles Rams is a move entirely opposite of the one coach Sean McVay made three years ago.
When the Rams made McVay the youngest head coach in modern NFL history in 2017, the offensive-minded McVay searched for a defensive coordinator who could provide experience and veteran knowledge and who could handle the unit in its entirety.
McVay’s move to hire Wade Phillips was a no-brainer. Phillips checked every box, plus earned bonus points for a personality that could engage an entire team.
“Our personalities, it’s a good balance — in terms of some of the things where you see just how even-keeled he is, has helped,” said McVay during Week 17 of this season. “Like I’ve mentioned in a lot of different ways, he’s always had a great perspective just based on his experience — whether it be as a head coach or as a coordinator.”
But the needs of the Rams and McVay have apparently changed. After winning two division titles and a conference championship before this season’s 9-7 finish that left them out of the playoffs, the Rams are moving on from Phillips as McVay, who turns 34 next week, prepares for his fourth season as head coach.
McVay informed Phillips early last week that his expiring contract would not be renewed. Four days later, McVay made a surprise hire as he turned to an unknown, unproven and inexperienced coordinator whom the Rams will depend on to take their defense from good, which it undoubtedly was under Phillips, to elite.
Meet Staley, whom the Rams are expected to soon announce as their defensive coordinator.
Never heard of him? You’re certainly not alone.
Staley is 37 years old, more than three decades younger than the 72-year-old Phillips, and spent the past three seasons coaching for the defensive-minded Vic Fangio. His first two seasons under Fangio were spent serving as outside linebackers coach for the Chicago Bears, where Fangio was the defensive coordinator. This past season, Staley held a similar post for the Denver Broncos after Fangio brought him along when he was named Broncos head coach.
In Chicago, Staley coached a position group that included outside linebacker Khalil Mack, and in Denver he worked closely with pass-rushers Von Miller and Bradley Chubb.
Staley spent a decade coaching at lower-tier colleges and is three seasons removed from his post as the defensive coordinator at John Carroll University — a Division III school in Ohio. Now he inherits a unit that boasts two-time NFL Defensive Player of the Year Aaron Donald and All-Pro cornerback Jalen Ramsey.
This past season, the Rams ranked ninth in defensive efficiency, but the unit was also marred by inexplicable meltdowns. They allowed more than 40 points in three losses and suffered momentary lapses in other critical moments, including late in the fourth quarter of a Week 16 loss to the San Francisco 49ers that eliminated them from playoff contention.
It’s expected that Staley will utilize a 3-4 scheme, given his tutelage under Fangio, who runs a base 3-4. That should minimize any need for general manager Les Snead to alter course on defensive personnel, which could have caused a setback had they shifted to a 4-3 scheme.
However, Staley will be forced to navigate a unit that could be moving forward without several of its top playmakers who are pending unrestricted free agents, including outside linebacker Dante Fowler Jr., inside linebacker Cory Littleton and defensive lineman Michael Brockers.
Last season, Fowler produced a career-high 11.5 sacks while playing on a one-year, $12 million deal. Littleton, a former undrafted free agent, has been the Rams’ leading tackler the past two seasons and Brockers, an eight-year pro, has provided a dependable presence and is a proven force in the run game.
It remains uncertain whether Staley will be given control of his defensive staff and which position coaches he would retain.
It was widely thought linebackers coach Joe Barry, who previously served as the defensive coordinator for the Detroit Lions and Washington Redskins, would be promoted. Barry remains a candidate for the vacant defensive coordinator position at USC, where he played in college and has previously served as a defensive assistant. The hiring of Staley could motivate Barry to move on.
Plenty of questions remain about how Staley will improve the defense, but perhaps an unexpected question is how his presence will affect McVay.
The addition of Staley, along with new offensive coordinator Kevin O’Connell — who also is expected to be formally announced soon — ensures the Rams will be the only team in the NFL with a head coach and two coordinators in their 30s.
No longer a rookie, McVay seems to have a clearer picture of how he wants to run his team, and a fresh idea about how to navigate forward following a season of disappointment.
By hiring Staley, McVay is conveying he no longer needs a mentor, but perhaps a peer, and he’s signaling that he’s looking for a fresh approach to defense, something perhaps more innovative than what the Rams had shown in previous seasons, despite their success.
Three years ago, Phillips was a safe choice.
But now Staley is McVay’s bold bet moving forward.
January 15, 2020 at 11:32 pm #110470InvaderRamModeratori hope it works out.
but the rams defense was already pretty good, and now you’re going to change coordinators.
just hope this wasn’t a knee jerk reaction to a down season.
January 16, 2020 at 3:43 pm #110497znModeratorScheme, blitzing and personnel: How the Rams’ defense might change next season
Rich Hammond
The Rams did not scapegoat Wade Phillips. Instead, they initiated an overhaul of their coaching staff, one that will bring in three new coordinators and perhaps two or three new position coaches.
Now the issue is, what will change, and how significantly?
The biggest shift will be on defense. Set to arrive is coordinator Brandon Staley, age 37, who is making a big jump. Staley has three years of experience as an NFL position coach (outside linebackers for the Broncos in 2019 and for the Bears in 2017-18), but other than one season at the FCS level with James Madison in 2014, he has never coordinated a defense above the Division III level.
That doesn’t mean Staley is a blank slate. He’s known to be a disciple of longtime NFL coordinator/coach Vic Fangio, even before he worked under Fangio in Chicago and Denver. Until Staley speaks — his hiring has not yet been announced by the Rams — it’s not certain what type of defense he will run, but it’s fair to assume that his tenets will align with Fangio’s base 3-4 front, accompanied by many different looks.
That’s certainly what one of Staley’s closest coaching associates, Tom Arth, pointed toward during an interview with The Athletic this week. Staley has studied and implemented Fangio’s ideas for years, back to when Staley was coaching at Division III John Carroll University and Fangio was with the San Francisco 49ers.
To predict the future, let’s examine the past and look at what Fangio typically likes to run, how it might differ from Phillips’ scheme and how Staley might have to adjust based on existing Rams personnel.
The scheme
Surface-level changes might seem minimal, because Phillips also ran a base 3-4, but in both cases that’s very deceiving. According to data from SportRadar, the Rams ran their base look (with four defensive backs) on only 35 percent of their defensive plays in 2019 (and 37.2 percent in 2018), which illustrates how often they used nickel cornerback Nickell Robey-Coleman or a third safety, or both.
That’s even more pronounced with Fangio. In 2018, Fangio’s last year as defensive coordinator in Chicago, the Bears used four defensive backs on only 17.3 percent of their plays. That rose to 27.1 percent in Denver last season, when Fangio was the head coach but remained the defensive architect.
To call Fangio’s scheme a 3-4 is technically correct but inaccurate in a practical sense. With Denver last season, it seemed to be more of a 2-4-5. In Chicago in 2018, it looked more like a 3-3-5. (These designations are not iron-clad because players can be identified/used in different ways than their natural positions, but they remain instructive in a general sense.) It’s not uncommon for Fangio to use six defensive backs (as was often the case with Phillips).
Fangio also is known to be very flexible. His stuff can change from week to week or from half to half (sometimes even from play to play). It’s not even possible to completely peg him as a “man” or “zone” guy because he is adaptable to the opponent and game situation, and that ability might be paramount in what attracted McVay to Staley.
A recent narrative suggested that Phillips’ defense was old-school and inflexible and that McVay wanted/needed to modernize. That’s not fair to Phillips. Yes, perhaps he leaned more toward player development than innovative scheming, but he also was not stodgy or stuck in his ways.
In the Super Bowl last year, Phillips completely flummoxed New England’s offense until the fourth quarter. The Rams “showed” a zone look before the snap, then played man coverage (or vice versa).
Phillips is more flexible than quick-twitch revisionist history is giving him credit for — he shifted the Rams’ primary coverage from man to zone in 2018, then back to man in 2019 when personnel dictated — but it’s fair to say that, in general, Phillips prioritized technique and innovative strategy.
Fangio is more of a wild card, with a complicated defense that might take some time to learn depending on how much of it Staley wants to implement with the Rams. It seems clear that the versatility will follow. In a 2014 interview with the student newspaper at James Madison University, Staley spoke about his philosophy.
“We want to be aggressive,” Staley said, “we want to be extremely physical and we want to be a defense that’s built to match up so that week to week, no matter who we’re playing against or what style offense we’re playing against, that we’re going to match up with that and we’re going to, by doing that, be able to be really aggressive.”
The blitzing
Here’s the folly in trying to make some of these projections: Aaron Donald.
None of these coaches — Staley, Fangio or Arth — has ever experienced coaching life with a defensive lineman as talented as Donald, the two-time Defensive Player of the Year who, at age 28, is in his prime.
The primary task for all of Donald’s NFL coordinators has been to best utilize him and find ways to support him amid the near-constant double- and triple-teaming he faces. The Rams, it seems, will be building their defense around Donald and cornerback Jalen Ramsey. No matter what Staley has run in the past and no matter his philosophy, his defense must (and will) center on maximizing Donald and Ramsey.
That said, there’s value in looking at how the Rams pressured opposing quarterbacks in 2019 and how that might change in a Fangio-like scheme.
Per SportRadar, the Rams blitzed on 29 percent of their plays in 2019, 16th-most in the NFL (a blitz being defined here as a play in which five or more players rush the quarterback). The Broncos blitzed 24.9 percent of the time in 2019, while the 2018 Bears blitzed on only 21.1 percent of their plays.
That’s not a dramatic change on a per-game basis, but it’s more instructive to look at the genesis of the blitzes. For the Rams last season, 83 percent of blitzes came from linebackers, compared to 16 percent from defensive backs and 1 percent from defensive linemen. For the Broncos last season, 87 percent came from linebackers, 11 percent from defensive backs and 2 percent from linemen.
The Broncos, under Fangio, not only blitzed less often than the Rams but also blitzed their defensive backs less often. It will be interesting to see what that means for aggressive players such as safeties John Johnson and Taylor Rapp as well as some of the Rams’ cornerbacks.
The personnel
Before Phillips departed, the Rams’ offseason dilemma on defense seemed rather easy to define. They have three potential unrestricted free agents — lineman Michael Brockers and linebackers Dante Fowler and Cory Littleton — and, at the moment, probably only enough salary-cap room to retain one of them.
It also seemed likely that the Rams would part with veteran safety Eric Weddle, who intimated at the end of the season that he didn’t want to return in a backup role.
How might Staley’s arrival change things?
Fangio is known to value smart safeties who can serve as coach-like figures on the field by calling plays, getting teammates lined up and making adjustments. That is, almost to a word, the job description the Rams hoped Weddle would fill when they signed him as a free agent last year.
Weddle had an inconsistent season — part of which might be attributed to kept-it-quiet injuries — but he brought great value to the Rams with his communication and leadership. Given that the Rams’ other safeties are still young, might Staley view Weddle in a different light and seek to retain him? That’s still probably not wise, considering Weddle’s departure would create $4.25 million in cap room, but it’s something to ponder.
Beyond that, let’s assume Brockers leaves via free agency, leaving the Rams to focus on retaining either Fowler or Littleton. Which way would Staley lean?
In his brief NFL career, Staley already has worked with some extraordinary edge rushers, with Von Miller, Khalil Mack and Bradley Chubb atop the list. Fowler, with 11.5 sacks, was by far the Rams’ best edge rusher in 2019. Given the importance of supporting Donald with outside pressure, would Staley lean toward keeping an effective rusher like Fowler?
Perhaps, but traditionally, edge rushers are easier to replace through the draft or on the free-agent and trade markets. The Rams also have a bit more depth there than they do at inside linebacker, where Littleton evolved from a 2016 undrafted free agent to an all-around talent.
Middle linebackers also are critical pieces in Fangio defenses, and if the Rams split with Weddle, it seems dicey for them to lose the two players most capable of serving as on-field defensive “quarterbacks” without any natural replacements lined up. A Littleton return probably would better suit the Rams, but he’s due for a major raise from his 2019 salary of $3.1 million. The Rams must decide how high they want to go.
January 16, 2020 at 4:01 pm #110498wvParticipantHammond — good stuff as per usual.
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