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August 14, 2019 at 7:29 pm #103996Billy_TParticipant
Coupled with the recent How to Hide an Empire, it’s quite the one-two punch in the gut.
Heavily sourced, footnoted, supported, it’s a much-needed corrective history — again, like Daniel Immerwahr’s recent book.
Grandin covers a ton of ground in a relatively small space, but primarily just before the founding of the US, through Trump’s first two years or so. He uses the frontier as metaphor, and keys on Frederick Jackson Turner’s view, riffing off of that for variations, alternatives, critiques. The frontier as “safety valve” also comes into play, as a way to forestall internal divisions to a degree . . . and with its close, the chickens come home to roost.
All kinds of takeaways . . . but I’ll note two passages near the end in this post:
But in a nation like the United States, founded on a mythical belief in a kind of species immunity — less an American exceptionalism than exemptionism, an insistence that the nation was exempt from nature, society, history, even death — the realization that it can’t go on forever is bound to be traumatic. This ideal of freedom as infinity was only made possible through the domination of African Americans, Mexican Americans, Mexicans, and Native Americans, as slave and cheap labor transformed stolen land into capital, cutting the tethers and launching the U.S. economy into the stratosphere. And now, as we fall back to wasted earth, the very existence of people of color functions as an unwanted memento mori, a reminder of limits, evidence that history imposes burdens and life contracts social obligations.
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Put simply, the United States’ dependence on the labor of people of color confirms the social basis of existence, and thus the legitimacy of social rights. In a political culture that considers individual rights sacrosanct, social rights are something viler than heresy. They imply limits, and limits violate the uniquely American premise that it is all going to go on forever.
August 15, 2019 at 11:25 am #104006Billy_TParticipantSome more takeaways . . .
Andrew Jackson was arguably the worst human being to ever occupy the White House. A slave owner, and perhaps the only president to lead a slave coffle, he also killed Indians with seeming relish. Tortured them and called for their death and torture. The author basically traces the most virulent forms of later white supremacy back to Jackson, his ideology, policies and followers. It makes sense that he’s Trump’s favorite president.
Jackson’s predecessor, John Quincy Adams, was perhaps the least destructive president toward indigenous peoples. So we went from “best” to worst. Grandin cites Adams’ speech of 1836 as one of the finest in our history.
https://archive.org/details/speechofhonjohnq00adam/page/n2
Grandin also notes that Mexico had the first “social democratic” constitution, and was the first nation to effectively fight against American corporate pressures with seriously progressive policies, like land reform. It’s important to remember that when we started an unprovoked war against Mexico in 1846, that nation included California, Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, Texas, parts of Colorado and Wyoming. It had also banned slavery in 1821, and was markedly better toward indigenous populations within its borders.
In short, contrary to our myths, we weren’t “the good guys” in that war, and blacks, Native Americans and people of color in general would have been better off if Mexico had retained that land.
Grandin also notes — and supports this with copious sourcing — that border agents, vigilantes and the Texas Rangers (after 1848) had a very long history of murder, torture, rape and overall oppression of Mexicans and Central American migrants in general . . . all too many with serious ties to white supremacist organizations. If anything, the recent calls for an end to ICE don’t go far enough, and they don’t talk about this history. It’s far, far too ugly to ignore or silence.
One of Grandin’s key sources is John Crewdson, a former reporter for the NYT, whose book, The Tarnished Door: The New Immigrants and the Transformation of America, summarizes that history.
August 15, 2019 at 11:33 am #104007Billy_TParticipantCoupla more links of note:
https://refusingtoforget.org/
(a history of border violence, focusing on the 1910 to 1920)From late in the book, in a discussion of Clinton’s triangulation on race and law and order issues:
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/09/stone-mountain-kkk-white-supremacy-simmons/
(Nathan Robinson is the author)
August 15, 2019 at 1:11 pm #104008znModeratorIt had also banned slavery in 1821, and was markedly better toward indigenous populations within its borders.
Also of interest: http://theramshuddle.com/search/Alamo/
August 25, 2019 at 7:53 pm #104311Billy_TParticipantThanks, ZN. Didn’t know you guys had talked about that before.
Amazing, isn’t it?
Why we aren’t taught this stuff is, of course, a separate and complex issue. But at least one big aspect of it is the ginormous pressure (in general) not to rain on mythic parades in public. The abuse that brings is often surreal . . . and, depending upon the way it’s done and its context, can actually endanger the messenger. It runs the gamut between shunning to jail, torture, exile, even assassination.
Perhaps the best antidote is the old “safety in numbers” deal. Books like Grandin’s and Immerwahr’s can help . . .
More irony: America’s history of anti-intellectualism probably enables books like these to be published, because they quickly get ignored. The powers that be (perhaps) calculate the lack of a reading public for these kinds of books, and can rest well at night about their likely impact.
It’s in countries that take these things seriously, that have a tradition of vigorous public debates about historical matters, that those powers tend to worry the most about exposing X, Y and Z.
America has so many things to distract Americans . . . and the powers that be know this.
August 25, 2019 at 9:09 pm #104313wvParticipantHe has written some articles for Radical History Review. Dunno if yer familiar with that pub. I wasn’t.
Link:https://read.dukeupress.edu/radical-history-review/search-results?page=1&q=Grandin&fl_SiteID=1000075
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vAugust 26, 2019 at 8:51 am #104318Billy_TParticipantDid not know about those other articles, WV.
Thanks.
I knew Grandin’s work from online articles, so was happy to bump into his new book in the New Book section of a local library. For the past year or two, I’ve been checking out most of my books, rather than buying them. Book-buying had been one of my few vices, but I’ve reduced it to a minimum as of late.
Anyway . . . I think you’d get a lot from it, and How to Hide an Empire.
Of course, this isn’t always the case, but the most recent history books can offer things older works miss . . . new troves of information found, previous restrictions on info lifted, reassessments of data, and just new perspectives in general, etc. Distance (in time) can oftentimes also reduce the numbers of sacred cows to avoid, too . . . Not always, by any means. But sometimes at least. So I especially enjoy well-written, well-researched up-to-date non-fiction.
Grandin’s book is in that category. I hope he follows this up with more on the same topics. It’s a short enough volume to leave you wanting more.
August 26, 2019 at 8:57 am #104319Billy_TParticipantSpeaking of Duke University Press . . . One of the two most important books (for me) on capitalist history comes from there.
The Invention of Capitalism, by Michael Perelman
https://www.dukeupress.edu/The-Invention-of-Capitalism/
The other is from Verso — arguably the best leftist publisher today.
The Origin of Capitalism, by Ellen Meiksins Woodhttps://www.versobooks.com/books/2407-the-origin-of-capitalism
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