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    Gordon: ‘Offense is coming,’ but weak line is real issue for Rams

    Jeff Gordon

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/jeff-gordon/gordon-offense-is-coming-but-weak-line-is-real-issue/article_b27e9663-e1a5-54ac-9a5e-1120f2e18a7e.html

    Rams coach Jeff Fisher is pleased to welcome rookie running back Todd Gurley to team drills this week.

    Gurley’s recovery from major knee surgery is continuing apace. He will become the focal point of the Rams offense sooner rather than later this season.

    Fisher believes quarterback Nick Foles will bounce back from his messy performance Sunday night in the 27-14 loss at Tennessee. The return of receiver Brian Quick from last season’s shoulder injury should help that process.

    “Our offense is coming,” Fisher promised at his Monday news conference. “It’s coming.”

    But …

    If the Rams don’t start blocking people, the offense won’t arrive in time to prevent still another losing season. Gurley’s rapid recovery, Foles’ emotional resilience and Quick’s comeback won’t matter if their young starting linemen keep getting rag-dolled by their foes.

    Their No. 1 offense went nowhere at Tennessee, just as it remained stalled at Oakland. The starters netted 37 yards and zero points against the Titans before taking cover on the sidelines.

    The Rams trailed the Titans 20-0 at the half and didn’t generate explosive plays until the reserves (and roster long shots) moved onto the field.

    The first-unit line kept quarterback Foles under duress during his brief stint. The starting group didn’t open up much for the running game, either, and it also failed to get out and block a screen pass correctly.

    So what do we know about this group?

    Left guard Rodger Saffold is the one proven performer on the line, but he has chronic shoulder problems. Since the bulk of his job involves banging shoulders with 300-pound opponents, this figures to be a season-long issue again this year.

    Perhaps he will play this week against the Indianapolis Colts, perhaps not. Given Saffold’s extensive injury history, expect Fisher to handle him with care.

    Left tackle Greg Robinson has road grader potential in the run game, but he is still learning how to pass block during his second professional season.

    Rookie right guard Jamon Brown is earning raves for his quick adaptation to the pro game, but rookie right tackle Rob Havenstein is nowhere near ready to play out on the island against elite edge rushers. Like many rookie tackles, he could remain a work in progress during his first season.

    Not much separates center candidates Barrett Jones, Tim Barnes and Demetrius Rhaney as they fight for two roster spots. “It’s going to be a good race,” Fisher said.

    Close race, yes. Good race? We’ll have to see about that.

    Jones, a fourth-round pick in 2013, didn’t get much contact work in the previous two summers while recovering from a foot injury, then a back injury. He did play in three games as a rookie and seven games last season, but this year he is finally benefiting from full offseason and preseason workloads.

    He had to rebuild the strength he lost while recovering from his back injury. “I think Barrett is coming on, just with the playing time, because Barrett hasn’t played much in games,” Fisher said.

    Barnes is the veteran of the group, having started four games back in 2013 and playing extensively on special teams the last three seasons. He re-upped with the Rams as a free agent after briefly flirting with the Kansas City Chiefs.

    He started the first preseason game, then sat out the second with a sore lower leg. He will return to action against Indianapolis, although it remains to be seen if he will be with the first, second or third unit.

    Rhaney is an intriguing athlete. With Barnes shelved, he got the start at Tennessee as Fisher reaffirmed his belief in him. Rhaney is coming back from a knee injury that wiped out his 2014 season, causing him to miss months of developmental time last year.

    It is imperative he makes the most of his playing time this preseason. “Demetrius, I thought, played pretty well last night, so we’ll continue to evaluate the position,” Fisher noted.

    Among the back-up offensive linemen, Brandon Washington and rookie Isaiah Battle have suffered the most obvious breakdowns and Garrett Reynolds has been the most impressive, in relative terms.

    Rookie guard Cody Wichmann will begin making his case this week after coming off the physically unable to perform list. The sixth-round pick from Fresno State has been hobbled by a calf injury.

    But he is a project, as is rookie tackle Andrew Donnal. Who knew a team could miss Joe Barksdale so much?

    Upon further review, perhaps the Rams shouldn’t have let Barksdale walk — especially after his camp overplayed its hand and left big free agent money on the table.

    Rams GM Les Snead has a solid track record of locating decent offensive line help as deeper teams start making cuts. Presumably he will do the same this season, although he won’t have much salary cap space to exploit if he locks a few more players into contract extensions.

    To be safe, the Rams must make more of what they already have on the roster. Time is running short to improve for the real games.

    “If you go back a year from now, or two years from now, or three years from now, you guys all asked me the same questions: ‘What’s up with your offense?’” Fisher said. “We keep it basic. Our philosophy is to just play and work on fundamentals during the preseason.”

    Fair enough, but all that work on fundamentals hasn’t resulted in effective blocking from the No. 1 unit. Offensive line coach Bruce Boudreau must accomplish plenty between now and the opener Sept. 13 against Seattle.

    You’ve seen what the Seahawks’ defense has done to experienced offensive lines. What might they do a bunch of kids still figuring it out?

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    Offensive line coach Bruce Boudreau must accomplish plenty between now and the opener Sept. 13 against Seattle.

    Ah see there’s the problem right there.

    Rams went and hired the wrong Boudreau.

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    “If you go back a year from now, or two years from now, or three years from now, you guys all asked me the same questions: ‘What’s up with your offense?’” Fisher said. “We keep it basic. Our philosophy is to just play and work on fundamentals during the preseason.”

    Why on earth would anyone ever ask that?

    This 8-8, 7-9 offense will be just fine. Trust him.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

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    This is nice. I think its a Fisher thing.

    “We have good guys, whether it’s somebody in competition with me trying to take my spot or somebody who you don’t even think is going to get on the team, you want to build those relationships because they’re going to help you out in the long run. So I just want to make sure these rookies get a good experience when they’re in the league, so I do my best to eliminate the kind of hazing aspects and try and be that mentor; be somebody to help them so they can say they had a great experience with this team even if don’t even make it one year in the league.”

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    What to make of Rams’ early offensive struggles

    Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/20690/what-to-make-of-rams-early-offensive-struggles

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — To the surprise of no one, St. Louis Rams coach Jeff Fisher says he isn’t concerned with his offense’s early preseason struggles.

    “No, not concerned at all,” Fisher said. “You would like to see them put 40 up on the board, but we will get it sorted out. You see us doing different things on the practice field than we do in the games.”

    Taking it a step further, Fisher pointed out that the preseason questions about a first-team offense which has managed just three points, 113 yards and five first downs on six possessions, is par for the course.

    “If you go back a year from now, or two years from now, or three years from now, you guys all asked me the same questions, ‘What’s up with your offense?'” Fisher said. “We keep it basic. Our philosophy is to just play and work on fundamentals during the preseason.”

    What’s unsaid here is that, though Fisher doesn’t sound concerned about the offense and is used to the questions, it’s not like his offense has a track record of ironing out the kinks in the preseason only to catch fire when the real games start. The outside concerns about his offense have often carried over to the regular season, particularly in the early part of the schedule.

    In three seasons under Fisher, the Rams rank 28th in the NFL in yards per game, 24th in yards per play and 26th in offensive points scored per game. So though the Rams are undoubtedly keeping things basic in terms of the game plan, they also haven’t exactly earned the benefit of the doubt when it comes to the offense.

    That’s especially true this season with a new coordinator in Frank Cignetti Jr., new quarterback in Nick Foles, three new starters on the offensive line and, eventually, a new starting running back. In preseason contests against Oakland and Tennessee — teams that drafted in the top four this year — the first-team offense has struggled mightily.

    After a dynamic start in which Foles hit tight end Lance Kendricks for a gain of 26 yards and then receiver Tavon Austin for 35 yards on the first two plays against the Raiders, it’s been tough sledding for the starting unit. On the 25 ensuing plays, that top offense has gained just 52 yards and, including the interception returned for a touchdown Foles threw Sunday night, it’s allowed more points than it has scored.

    “I’ll never panic as a quarterback just because you’ve got to keep working,” Foles said. “If you panic, then you’ve given up. I would never give up as long as I play the game. We have great guys in this locker room, and I keep saying that we’ll continue to put more things into the offense. We’re really just trying to work on our stuff right now.”

    There’s little doubt that the Rams have had a basic approach to the preseason and aren’t exactly pulling out all the play-calling stops. Going back to what Fisher said, if there is to be a concern, it should be with those fundamentals. When keeping it simple, things like blocking, running the correct routes and making good decisions with the ball should all qualify as the basics.

    And the Rams aren’t doing those particularly well, either. With the starters on the field, the Rams have 40 yards on 14 carries, good for just 2.9 yards per attempt. Foles is six-of-12 for 87 yards for a passer rating of 39.2 with the interception and no touchdowns.

    “Our offense is coming,” Fisher said. “It’s coming. We saw a lot of good things out of our offense against the Cowboys (in practice last week).”

    Yes, it’s only the preseason and there’s still time for the Rams to get those things straightened out. But it’s also fair to wonder whether an offense with so many moving parts will be able to do it in time to keep the Rams from digging themselves into yet another early season hole.

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