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  • #91191
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    This is the best thread on Goff in the entire known universe, and beyond.

    More.

    The “just 2 games” thing don’t apply here since it’s last year combined with this.

    aeneas1

    2017-2018, goff’s rankings among the top 40 qbs with the most pass attempts:

    yards per completed pass – 4th highest
    yards per pass attempt – 4th highest
    interception rate – 5th lowest
    td rate – 6th highest
    qb rating – 6th highest
    3rd down dropbacks converted into 1st downs – 6th highest

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    ME: Here’s how I rate Goff at the start of his 3rd year and how I handle the system qb thing. Ask yerself, how many qbs in the league would do as well or better with the same offense. And Goff is at least as good as most of them. How many qbs would not do as well. And Goff is better than them.

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    I rate Goff in the top 15. There are probably less than 14 QBs I like better. He will get better. I think his arm has gotten stronger since college. I give a lot of credit to his team and his coach.

    Agamemnon

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    I rate Goff in the top 15. There are probably less than 14 QBs I like better. He will get better. I think his arm has gotten stronger since college. I give a lot of credit to his team and his coach.

    i agree with this. for one season. for the next ten years? i’d rank him higher.

    but yeah for one season. i’d rate him top 15.

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    Sam Farmer@LATimesfarmer
    With every one of these games, it becomes increasingly evident what Les Snead and the rest of the Rams contingent saw in Jared Goff.

    #91287
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    fifth in yards per game

    seventh in completion percentage

    third in ypa

    sixth in passer rating

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    Jared Goff quietly leads Rams to perfect 3-0 start

    Michael Silver

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000966111/article/jared-goff-quietly-leads-rams-to-perfect-30-start

    LOS ANGELES — The black Range Rover pulled toward the road connecting the northwest corner of the Coliseum to the City of Angels, creeping up alongside what was left of the friends and family section at the end of the locker-room tunnel. The man in the passenger seat was clearly in a hurry Sunday evening, what with a short week officially having begun, but suddenly the car came to a stop, and the tinted window on the driver’s side slid down to reveal the face of the NFL’s hottest young coach.

    “Your son balled today,” Sean McVay said, gesturing toward a smiling man standing alongside an adjacent fence. And as Jerry Goff accepted the coach’s praise of his son, Jared, the Los Angeles Rams’ third-year quarterback, the proud papa felt compelled to pay his respects to the play-calling prodigy who is the NFL’s reigning coach of the year.

    “He’s lucky to have you,” Goff told McVay.

    “I feel that way about him,” McVay replied.

    A few seconds later, McVay’s girlfriend, Veronika Khomyn, pulled the Range Rover out of the lot, leaving behind a 35-23 victory over the Los Angeles Chargers that pushed the Rams to 3-0 and decided the Fight For L.A. by unanimous decision.

    If you’re inclined to assume this was nothing more than simple pleasantries being exchanged in the ebullient wake of the team’s best start in 17 seasons, you’re missing the message behind McVay’s glowing assessment of his quarterback: Goff is not the product of his system. He is the pulse of it.

    “Saying he’s a system player — that’s just disrespectful,” McVay told me after the game, still steamed over a question suggesting as much that he’d received in a press conference last Wednesday. “It’s a total discredit to a great player. Those who know, know. Flip the tape on. People who know what it looks like to play the quarterback position at a high level know what they’re seeing.”

    “I know this: I wouldn’t want to be working with anybody else other than Jared Goff right now.”

    Flip on the tape. Go ahead. Start with the third-and-8 shotgun snap from his own 47-yard line that Goff received with 12:51 left in the third quarter and the Rams up 21-13. McVay had called a play anticipating zone coverage, but the Chargers went with a man-to-man alignment, and the designated man-beater target (receiver Robert Woods) wasn’t able to run the route of his choosing.

    As second-year wideout Cooper Kupp patiently explained to me later, “Robert had bad leverage on the route. He wanted to go inside, but (the defender) was inside. I was maybe the third or fourth read, but it all broke down, and I just tried to keep it alive.”

    With pressure closing in, Goff slid forward in the pocket, and slightly to his right. Defensive end Issac Rochell was coming from Goff’s left; defensive end Melvin Ingram swooped in from the right. And closing in quickly from behind Goff, blitzing linebacker Uchenna Nwosu dove into the back of his legs.

    “I had gone through all my reads, four or five of them, and I was completely off schedule,” Goff said later. “Then Cooper flashed — that was just him being a football player — and I was able to get it there.”

    Said Kupp: “It was 100-percent off schedule. Like, double off-schedule. But he got me the ball, and that definitely doesn’t happen if Jared’s not willing to hang in there as long as he did.”

    What happened was that Goff zipped a glorious dart toward the right sideline that Kupp caught in-stride at the Chargers’ 30. Cornerback Trevor Williams, who trailed Kupp by a step, grabbed the receiver from behind, but Kupp kept right on churning forward, and by the 20 he had shed Williams completely, continuing on his way to a 53-yard touchdown pass.

    It was one of many, many impressive throws by Goff on a day when he, and the Rams’ offense, put up some strikingly prodigious numbers.

    Goff completed 29-of-36 passes for 354 yards and three touchdowns, with another scoring throw overturned by a replay review that ruled receiver Brandin Cooks had been stopped at the 1-yard line. He did get dinged for an end-zone interception, with Chargers rookie safety Derwin James making a nice read on a corner throw intended for tight end Gerald Everett.

    No worries: The Rams’ Cory Littleton responded by blocking a Drew Kaser punt in the end zone, with teammate Blake Countess recovering for a touchdown. And Goff, after a Chargers touchdown drive, responded by completing his next six passes to set up Sam Ficken’s 46-yard field goal on the final play of the first half.

    “This guy’s a total stud,” McVay said of Goff after exiting the locker room long after the game. “I think people don’t realize how calm he is. On the touchdown to Cooper he has four guys on him, two guys practically hanging on him, and he makes a play. He’s fearless, man. It’s hard enough to make plays in rhythm, and when things look the way you want them to look. But when things break down and he can still keep plays alive and make big-time throws… well, that’s a whole different level of good.”

    It’s early — and the Rams have the sure-to-be-peeved-in-the-wake-of-a-brutal-home-loss-to-Buffalo Minnesota Vikings coming to town for a stiff Thursday Night Football test — but McVay’s offense, the league’s best in 2017, appears to be even better this year.

    On Sunday, Goff and friends put up 521 yards of offense, the most by a Rams team since an overtime game in 2006 — and the most in four quarters of football since 2000, the heart of the Greatest Show On Turf era. Additionally, L.A. had 33 first downs, the most by any NFL team since the Saints midway through the 2015 season.

    Goff became the third quarterback in league history to complete consecutive games with at least 350 passing yards and a completion percentage of 75 or above. And the Rams, not coincidentally, are 3-0 for the first time since 2001.

    So yeah, the system is tremendous. Goff, however, is far more than a nondescript administrator.

    “That dude’s a freaking monster,” said Russell Okung, the Chargers’ veteran left tackle. “And I think what makes him a monster is he’s incredibly consistent. Consistent players do the best in this league. You know what to expect every time. He takes the easy throws when they’re there, and then when he does go over the top, those (receivers) make plays.

    “In this league, that’s a winning formula. Don’t give me the flashy guy; give me the guy who you can depend on every time.”

    Right now, the metaphorical flashbulbs seem to be focused on a slew of other prolific and promising young quarterbacks, from Patrick Mahomes, to Carson Wentz, to Deshaun Watson — and to Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold and the other members of the current rookie class.

    Goff, for whatever reason, seems to get lost in the wash, even as he cleans up in Tinseltown.

    “People don’t talk about him,” said Andrew Whitworth, the Rams’ All-Pro left tackle. “From the start, people were saying he was overdrafted, and now I think they’re sitting there waiting for the opportunity to say that maybe they were right. Yet he’s done nothing but continue to prove them wrong, and he’s getting better and better.

    “You feel the command, and his poise is what blows you away. Week after week; good play, bad play; he comes back, explains to us what happened and tells us what we need to do next. He can literally communicate so calmly in the moment, and it’s mind-blowing how relaxed he is on the football field.”

    Not surprisingly, Goff had a relaxed response to the notion that he’s getting less hype than some of his contemporaries.

    “No idea,” he replied. “Look — with a great running back (Todd Gurley, who ran for 105 yards and a touchdown Sunday) and a really good defense, that can happen. I don’t know if they’re talking about me. I also don’t care. If we’re 3-0, it’s all good.”

    Moments after McVay’s Range Rover pulled away from the Coliseum on Sunday evening, Goff’s mother, Nancy, took her son’s indifference a step further.

    “We love it,” she said of the relative lack of attention her son’s exploits are generating. “That’s the best– because then you can sneak through the back door. The worst is when they do the whole ‘Mr. Perfect’ thing, like (when Goff was a Cal junior) before (the Golden Bears played) Utah — and then, five interceptions. Right now it’s quiet, and we’re winning, and it couldn’t be better. This is exactly where he wants to be.”

    Soon Jared emerged from the locker room, and he and his parents headed out in the L.A. twilight. Nobody followed. Rest assured, they like it that way

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    Travis Langer@Lang50
    Stats that make you go, woah: @JaredGoff16 is now the third player in league history to pass for at least 350 yards while completing at least 75 percent of his passes in consecutive games, joining Trent Green (2004) and Ryan Fitzpatrick (Weeks 1-2 this year).

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    #91323
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    Jared Goff is the first @RamsNFL QB to…

    ✔️Throw for 350+ in consecutive games since @MarcBulger10 in 2004-05.
    ✔️Pass for 941 yards through first three games since @kurt13warner in 2001 (957).

    not as impressive now as it was back then.

    but still good.

    #91347
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    here are various rankings for goff.

    i don’t know how today’s game will affect rankings but here goes.

    pff – 87.8 (4th best)

    football outsiders – 250 (5th best)

    passer rating – 111.0 (6th best)

    total qbr – 78.1 (5th best)

    still early in the season. i’ll be interested to see where he is after the vikings game and again at the halfway point.

    but wow. good start. i just hope he keeps improving as the season goes on. he did start out hot last season the first three games and then slowed down a little before picking it back up.

    on the other hand, beyond the numbers. and just by the eye test. he looks better. and that would make sense. other teams have a whole year’s worth of tape on goff in the mcvay offense. defenses should be better prepared. yet he’s still producing. if he can keep this up, people will have to give him more respect. not that it matters or anything.

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    aeneas1

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    Andy Benoit@Andy_Benoit
    If Jared Goff keeps building on the pocket poise he’s shown early this season, he’ll soon be an “elite” quarterback.

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    In the Charger game, Goff played the most ‘inter esting’ game I’ve seen him play.

    There were times he winged it like Favre. (and got intercepted)
    There were times he zinged it like Bulger. Perfect accuracy. Ropes.
    There were times he floated it softly and accurately like Kurt.
    And there were a few times he subtly moved in the pocket like Marino.

    Just a most-interesting performance. Its what we saw in the college hi-lites. Its what we hoped-for when Fisher moved up for him.

    I think we are left with only one question now.
    Can he consistently:

    1 Play clutch ball,
    2 Under pressure,
    3 In big games,
    4 Especially playoff games.

    He’s certainly got great pieces around him. He couldnt ask for a better team. He’s set up to succeed, much like Warner was, and Bulger.

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    PFF LA Rams@PFF_Rams
    Sunday’s game game against the #Chargers saw QB Jared Goff earn his first ever Elite game grade (90.0+) in the NFL and landed him on PFF’s Team of the Week

    #91491
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    In the Charger game, Goff played the most ‘inter esting’ game I’ve seen him play.

    There were times he winged it like Favre. (and got intercepted)
    There were times he zinged it like Bulger. Perfect accuracy. Ropes.
    There were times he floated it softly and accurately like Kurt.
    And there were a few times he subtly moved in the pocket like Marino.

    Just a most-interesting performance. Its what we saw in the college hi-lites. Its what we hoped-for when Fisher moved up for him.

    I think we are left with only one question now.
    Can he consistently:

    1 Play clutch ball,
    2 Under pressure,
    3 In big games,
    4 Especially playoff games.

    He’s certainly got great pieces around him. He couldnt ask for a better team. He’s set up to succeed, much like Warner was, and Bulger.

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    Why don’t you just move to Seattle if you hate the Rams so much?

    #91494
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    There were times he winged it like Favre. (and got intercepted)
    There were times he zinged it like Bulger. Perfect accuracy. Ropes.
    There were times he floated it softly and accurately like Kurt.
    And there were a few times he subtly moved in the pocket like Marino.

    i already think he’s better than bradford or bulger.

    only one i’ve seen better in a rams uniform is warner. but who knows what i’ll be saying in a couple years. i need this season and a couple more before i can compare him to warner. well maybe this season and next.

    but yeah. he can put zip on the ball. but he’s also got touch. as mcvay says he can change the launch point. things that bradford never seemed to master while with the rams. and his pocket presence is impressive and should only get better the more he plays. and he’s got those typewriter feet. constantly moving. just constant microadjustments that put him in the best position to get a throw off.

    #91498
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    i already think he’s better than bradford or bulger.

    only one i’ve seen better in a rams uniform is warner. but who knows what i’ll be saying in a couple years. i need this season and a couple more before i can compare him to warner. well maybe this season and next.

    but yeah. he can put zip on the ball. but he’s also got touch. as mcvay says he can change the launch point. things that bradford never seemed to master while with the rams. and his pocket presence is impressive and should only get better the more he plays. and he’s got those typewriter feet. constantly moving. just constant microadjustments that put him in the best position to get a throw off.

    I wouldn’t put him above Bulger. Not yet.

    Bulger produced some 4th quarter heroics that Goff hasn’t achieved yet. Bulger’s resume is better at this point.

    He’s passed Bradford’s, imo. He is as accurate, and more versatile in both his throws, and his ability to make plays out of nothing. He needs some playoff wins to pass Bulger.

    #91517
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    He needs some playoff wins to pass Bulger.

    that’s fair. hopefully, he starts this season.

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    For Jared Goff, It’s More Than Coaching

    Albert Breer

    https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/09/27/jared-goff-los-angeles-rams-sean-mcvay-vikings-thursday-night-football

    I thought I’d fill this space today—after seeing some of the throws he made the last couple weeks—with the story of how Jared Goff was throwing a right cross at the perception of his ’17 season. Of how he went from product of Sean McVay’s system to a guy worth building a system, and a franchise, around.

    After talking to Goff on Wednesday night, I think I had it wrong all along.

    So instead of this being about some huge leap Goff was making year over year, it became how the rest of us might just be catching up to how good he really is, and really was last year while McVay was winning Coach of the Year and Todd Gurley was winning Offensive Player of the Year. Instead of Goff affirming that so much has changed for him in Year 3, he argued that his progress, in fact, remains incremental.

    “I don’t think three games into the season I’m exponentially better than I was last year,” Goff said, as he wrapped up prep on the short week for tonight’s game against the Vikings. “I mean, I think I did a lot of good things last year. We were able to make the playoffs. Going into the offseason, learning more about defenses, getting more comfortable in our own offense and continuing to grow and get better.

    “I expected myself to get better. I always strive for the extra one percent. Right now I don’t feel like I’m exponentially better.”

    Maybe it just seems that way. He’s right, too. His numbers were damn good last year—Goff completed 62.1 percent of his passes for 3,804 yards, 28 touchdowns, seven picks and a 100.5 rating in 15 games. Through three games this year he’s connected on 70.3 percent of his throws, and has a 111.0 rating, with his yardage projecting to 4,705, and TD-INT differential to 30-10 over that 15-game sample size.

    But whatever it is everyone is seeing out of Goff sure looks good. Which means … maybe we were all just a little late to the party?

    “I think any time people make a predisposed decision about who you are or what you’ve done, they’ve made up their mind, they’ll have certain reasons for why stuff change, and it can’t possibly be ‘because I was wrong’,” Goff said. “That’s what happened a little last year. And I don’t really care what people think, but hopefully as time goes on, it’s not the same stuff.”

    Thursday night game, a showdown involving two quarterbacks whose career breakthroughs were sparked by the 32-year-old Rams coach. For Vikings QB Kirk Cousins, it happened in Washington in 2015, with the Redskins making the playoffs for just the second time this decade. Cousins had McVay as his OC for another year, then this past offseason earned a huge payday in Minnesota.

    For both quarterbacks, it took time to convince people they were more than the product of rock-solid coaching. Now Cousins has made it happen under different coaches, and with a different team. With Goff, the difference is in how the proof has come—through a slew of wow throws that have victimized defenses over the last few weeks. In an effort to explain that as best we could, I asked a couple Rams staffers for a list of those plays.

    I came away with five from the last two weeks, and asked Goff to explain them to me, which he was gracious enough to do.

    Play 1 — Arizona

    The situation: Third quarter, 5:20 left; 1st-and-10, Cardinals 42.

    The throw: Goff stands in the face of blitzing safety Antoine Bethea (who was flagged for roughing) and sends a rope to the left sideline, where Robert Woods, running a streak, plucks the ball from above Arizona’s Budda Baker, in tight coverage.

    The quarterback’s take: “I got hit on it pretty good. That’s a play we’ve ran before, we ran it a bunch last year. A play we’re comfortable with. Robert ran a good route and they actually covered it pretty well. We were a little loose up front, they had a safety blitz coming and were able to run through on us, and I just got it off before he got there. And I just gave Robert a chance. He’s shown it, he’s become such a great ball-catcher, he’s shown so much improvement from last year, he’s probably the most sure-handed guy we’ve got right now. And it’s just really nice when you can throw it, and I got hit, I didn’t see the end of the play, and heard the crowd go, and usually that means interception or a good catch, and that one ends up being a good catch.”

    Play 2 — Arizona

    The situation: Fourth quarter, 10:22 left; 3rd-and-4, Rams 48

    The throw: Goff takes a shotgun snap, and Arizona sends six. With Chandler Jones looping in and bearing down on Goff, the quarterback stood tall and delivered a crosser to Brandin Cooks—sneaking it high into a tiny window just over Baker’s head, and underneath Bethea, playing the deeper part of the field.

    The quarterback’s take: “It’s actually a similar throw to the Woods one, where he’s covered, but having the comfort level I have with Brandin and the trust I have in him, was able to throw that ball high and give him a chance knowing that the DB was not looking and Brandin was looking. If that ever happens, you give them a chance and you could have a good outcome. I think that type of throw just comes with being more comfortable and having a lot of trust in the receiver. Would I have made it last year? I don’t know. I’d like to think so, but I don’t know if I can speak to that. I think just being comfortable and having a good rapport with our receivers is why that one worked.”

    Play 3 — Chargers

    The situation: Second quarter, 10:50 left; 2nd-and-6, Chargers 35

    The throw: Goff takes the snap from center, gets protection, and puts the ball up for tight end Tyler Higbee, who posterizes Chargers rookie linebacker Kyzir White.

    The quarterback’s take: “They’re all kind of similar throws. That one is very similar to Brandin’s and even Robert’s, where he was covered and I was just confident in my receivers and confident in myself. The throw is not as hard as the catch. The throw, I’m just throwing it high. The key to that, and really the first three we’ve talked about, it’s trusting my receiver that they’re going to make a play on a high-difficulty catch, and just giving them a chance ultimately with the throw.”

    Play 4 – Chargers

    The situation: Third quarter, 12:51 left; 3rd-and-8, Chargers 47

    The throw: Goff takes the shotgun snap and steps up in the pocket, going through his reads, and has to dodge defensive end Isaac Rochell to break the pocket and turn the play into a scramble drill, at which point Cooper Kupp breaks off his route. Goff hits Kupp streaking upfield in stride, and Kupp gallivants into the end zone with a 47-yard scoring play.

    The quarterback’s take: “It was just an off-schedule play. Cooper was an underneath read, and I didn’t see anyone open through the first three reads, and tried to move around the pocket a little bit, and got my eyes up off the rush, and Cooper spun around the defender up the field, and I knew he had a lot of room in front of him, so I tried to put the ball out in front of him, and was able to put a good ball on him and he made a great play breaking that tackle and scoring. I made a similar play in the third game of season last year against San Francisco down the right sideline.”

    So at this point, Goff’s contention is every one of these throws, he’d have been capable of making last year. And then we came to the last one I had on my list, and that one, as it turned out, was different.

    Play 5 — Chargers

    The situation: Second quarter, 1:40 left; 1st-and-10, Rams 32

    The throw: In hurry-up, Goff takes the shotgun snap, gets protection and finds Woods on a deep out-breaking route. The ball clears Pro Bowl corner Casey Heyward’s outstretched arm by no more than a foot or two, and hits the receiver less than a second before rookie Derwin James makes it over to help on the coverage.

    The quarterback’s take: “It was Cover 2. That would be a throw—that’s the best example of one that would’ve been tougher last year, just in me understanding defenses and understanding what their intent is, and understanding, what’s Casey’s responsibility and what’s Derwin’s responsibility, and being able to manipulate that in the way that we did. And feeling confident in where to throw the ball and knowing Robert would be there. All of it comes back to being confident in the receiver and really trusting him.”

    The point here? Goff’s come a long way in two years, for sure. But it didn’t happen all at once. And if you think it’s all coaching, Goff isn’t going to let that get to him, or even try to change your mind, and he insists it doesn’t bother him in the slightest.

    “Never. Never,” Goff said. “[McVay’s] incredible and he deserves all the praise he gets. My rookie year was not so good, and coming into my second year, one of two things was going to happen—I was gonna be bad or I was gonna be good. And if I was good, they were gonna pin it on someone else. It’s all positive, it’s the way it works. I expected this coming into everything. All I can do is get better.

    “Sean’s incredible, he’s probably the best coach in the league right now, won Coach of the Year last year, we’re doing stuff offensively—I mean, his innovation is incredible. I’m very thankful that he’s the guy I get to ask questions of, I get to learn from and have as the one teaching me.”

    And that’s an ongoing thing in L.A., which you’ll be able to see tonight. Back in camp, Goff explained to me how, as he saw it, the Rams had to work to stay one step ahead as teams caught up to what they were doing, and the quarterback says McVay has done that through continued wrinkles in motioning and formationing to give defenses different looks.

    It’s also helped, as Goff alluded to, being in Year 2 with Kupp and Woods, and having a quick study in Cooks. And the promise of guys like Higbee doesn’t hurt either.

    Add it up, and you see why the guys calling the shots in L.A. feel so good about where Goff is at 23—the same age draft classmate Carson Wentz was as a rookie. Safe to say, too that Goff is pretty excited looking at the future around him, though he wouldn’t bite when I asked about he and McVay having a Sean Payton/Drew Brees-style 10- to 15-year run.

    “That’s always the pipe dream for down the road,” Goff said. “We’re two years into this. We’ve been successful to this point, but there are so many good teams, so many good players that you have to keep on it at all times and can’t really look that far down the road. In 10 years, if we’re still together, we can talk about it. I promise you I’ll talk to you about it.”

    For now, at least, Goff has proven he’s worth talking about as one of the best young quarterbacks in the game. And that, McVay himself would tell you, is regardless of who’s coaching him.

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    The throw: In hurry-up, Goff takes the shotgun snap, gets protection and finds Woods on a deep out-breaking route. The ball clears Pro Bowl corner Casey Heyward’s outstretched arm by no more than a foot or two, and hits the receiver less than a second before rookie Derwin James makes it over to help on the coverage.

    The quarterback’s take: “It was Cover 2. That would be a throw—that’s the best example of one that would’ve been tougher last year, just in me understanding defenses and understanding what their intent is, and understanding, what’s Casey’s responsibility and what’s Derwin’s responsibility, and being able to manipulate that in the way that we did. And feeling confident in where to throw the ball and knowing Robert would be there. All of it comes back to being confident in the receiver and really trusting him.”

    i liked that.

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    PFF: Jared Goff isn’t just a product of McVay’s system, he’s making it better

    AUSTIN GAYLE

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-jared-goff-isnt-just-a-product-of-mcvays-system-hes-making-it-better

    Lost in the shuffle of Sean McVay’s award-winning debut as an NFL head coach was the Los Angeles Rams‘ No. 1 overall pick, the signal-caller at the helm of it all, Jared Goff.

    Fans and media alike were quick to tag Goff as a merely a product of McVay’s system – not one capable of taking it to the next level – as he improved his overall grade from 42.9 in 2016 to 75.6 with McVay in 2017. Goff, now four games into his second season with McVay, is proving his doubters wrong, rising above the infamous “system QB” label.

    In Los Angles’ 38-31 win over the Minnesota Vikings on Thursday, Goff earned the highest single-game grade (96.3) of his career, completing 26-of-33 passes for 465 yards and five touchdowns in the process. He also recorded a sky-high adjusted completion percentage (92.9), a perfect 158.3 passer rating, had six big-time throws and committed zero turnover-worthy plays. All five scores were big-time throws.

    Yes, McVay’s system put Goff in a position to take advantage of mismatches and pass into open windows, but Goff still processed coverages quickly, made the right decisions and had perfect ball placement on all five touchdown passes. McVay and Goff both had fantastic games; both can be true.

    Here, McVay begins what would go on to be repeated abuse of Vikings linebacker Anthony Barr in coverage, as he calls for his star running back Todd Gurley to beat Barr vertically for a red-zone touchdown. Goff, however, takes the mismatch from favorable to indefensible when he throws the pass on a frozen rope in a spot only Gurley can make the catch and easily keep his feet in bounds.

    Operation: Target Barr continued without a hitch on Goff’s subsequent touchdown pass, as McVay has second-year wide receiver Cooper Kupp come across the formation to the opposite side of the field – Barr’s side of the field. Kupp comes out of the route wide open streaking down the sideline, and Goff hits him in stride to turn what would be a 30-yard pass if the throw was errant into a 70-yard touchdown because of the high-end ball placement. Again, it’s another instance McVay and Goff both playing well.

    Goff then breaks away from Operation: Target Barr on his next trip to the red zone, taking it upon himself to rise above the system and throw Kupp, who is fighting double coverage, open in the back of the end zone. Oh, and Goff’s on the run, too.

    System QBs don’t make throws like the one above, nor do they make the deep throws Goff completes to punch in his final two touchdowns of the contest.

    Goff finds his two speedsters, Brandin Cooks and Robert Woods, for deep touchdowns of 47 and 31 yards to cap off his stellar performance. Going to Cooks first, Goff hits his speedy wideout in stride as he crosses the goal line after creating just a step or so of separation against Vikings’ Trae Waynes in one-on-one coverage. Waynes was surely behind Cooks on the play, but his diving effort at the pass approaches breaks up an inaccurate throw; Goff’s was, again, indefensible.

    Late in the third quarter, Goff revisited Operation: Target Barr to place what was arguably his best ball in the hands of a Woods streaking into the end zone. Goff’s pass doesn’t force Woods to break stride and falls over the appropriate shoulder to keep him from having to make any late adjustments after the throw. Despite the mismatch of Woods-Barr, the play is far from a guaranteed completion; Goff just makes it that easy.

    With his performance Thursday night, Goff now has 819 passing yards, a 148.7 passer rating and 10 big-time throws in his last two games. His two-game grade of 98.0 in Weeks 3 and 4 is the highest of his career by a significant margin. He is taking the next step in McVay’s system rather than simply enjoying the ride, a step that will push him into the conversation of top quarterbacks in the league if keeps it up.

    #91615
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    it didn’t seem fluky. i mean when a qb is that accurate as consistently as goff was how fluky can it really be?

    sometimes qbs just throw it up and let the receiver get it. but goff seemed to be putting it right where he wanted it with receivers in full stride. i guess we’ll see.

    goff is now ranked #3 among all qbs by pff.

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    A lot to like about Jared Goff’s progression

    Sam Farmer

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-rams-vikings-farmer-20180927-story.html#

    To borrow a line from roughed-up Minnesota quarterback Kirk Cousins, the Jared Goff-led Rams posed a question Thursday night to Los Angeles:
    You like that?
    These undefeated Rams, who two years ago were unquestionably the NFL’s most boring team, are now the most explosive. On Thursday, they beat Cousins and the Vikings 38-31, bumping their astronomical scoring average to 35 points.
    Imagine, all that hand-wringing about the franchise spending so many picks on Goff that the receiver cupboard would be bare for a generation. Well, Goff threw for 465 yards and five touchdowns against a good Vikings defense, with Cooper Kupp (162), Brandin Cooks (116) and Robert Woods (101) each reeling in more than 100 yards in catches.
    Todd Gurley is a centerpiece of this offense, yes, but the passing game is not predicated on any particular player. It’s Goff throwing to the open man, the way Tom Brady has done to historic results in New England for so many years, never flinching at the rotating cast of receivers.
    The NFL doesn’t like having teams cross two time zones for a Thursday night game, reasoning that’s too far to travel on such a short week. But this was a special occasion, the debut of Fox’s “Thursday Night Football” package, and it begged for a marquee matchup. The Vikings manhandled the Rams 24-7 in Minnesota last season, so this promised to be an excellent rematch.
    NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell was at the game, and said afterward it was just the type of event the league had hoped for when it approved the Rams’ return three years ago. “When we get to the new stadium,” he said, “it will be a whole new level.”
    That $3-billion venue won’t be until 2020, but it seems these Rams are running an offense that’s ahead of its time. Just as the Vikings passed through two time zones, so did Goff, who averaged a staggering 14.1 yards per completion.
    He looks increasingly at ease in this offense, throwing for four touchdowns in the first half. Goff’s four touchdown passes were the most in a first half by a Rams quarterback since Kurt Warner did it in 1999.
    “That’s been the consistent evolution of Jared from Pop Warner through high school through college and now in the NFL,” said his father, Jerry, before the game. “He comes in and figures it out.”
    Sean McVay is more than last season’s NFL coach of the year, he’s the quintessential Goffensive coordinator, drawing up plays that allow his third-year quarterback to pick apart opponents with surgical precision. It’s as if Goff sees the game unfolding from a press-box angle, comfortably dropping back and finding the open receiver most every time.

    Couple Goff’s accuracy and McVay’s schemes, and the Vikings were downright befuddled sometimes. Like when linebacker Anthony Barr found himself matched up with Kupp, who ran under a Goff rainbow and never broke stride on a 70-yard touchdown play. Or when the Rams put three tight ends on the field, and Goff threaded a 31-yard scoring pass to Woods, who was covered by a linebacker.
    “Everything we put into the week, I think it shows when we come to play,” Woods said. “We find ways to get an edge on our opponent and run away from them.”
    It was reminiscent of those “Greatest Show on Turf” Rams that dazzled St. Louis almost 20 years ago.
    “How could it not be reminiscent?” said Warner, the Hall of Fame quarterback who directed that offense and was working Thursday’s game as an NFL Network analyst. “It was so much fun. The beautiful thing is how they play, the way they attack down the field, which is so much different than what you see from other teams.”
    One of the cruel ironies of the Rams leaving Southern California in 1995 is they became a true L.A. team only when they moved to St. Louis. That’s when they were the NFL’s answer to the Showtime Lakers.
    Well, that’s what they are now, at least through the first quarter of the season.
    “I wasn’t alive [for those Lakers teams],” said a smiling Goff, born in 1994. “But it feels good. The crowd was amazing tonight. For myself, seeing that grow from that first year until now, seeing a Thursday night when there’s so much traffic and everyone’s here, waving those towels. It’s a true home-field advantage. Feels good.”
    He likes that.

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    Agamemnon

    #91651
    Avatar photoInvaderRam
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    on good morning football they said goff is the only player in nfl history to pass for more than 300 yards while maintaining a completion percentage of 75% for three straight games. a little arbitrary but still impressive.

    also. on his perfect passer rating. it’s the 70th in the history of the nfl. also among those perfect passer ratings it’s number one in completions (tied), attempts, and passing yards.

    that’s impressive. to maintain it over that many attempts which no one else has done. and every one of those plays was crucial for the rams to win. the vikings defense is struggling but it was rated number one last year.

    i guess i didn’t realize just how impressive that rating was when put in context. although this is also with the new rules in place that protect qbs and wrs so there’s that to consider as well.

    here’s the list.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NFL_quarterbacks_who_have_posted_a_perfect_passer_rating

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