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March 13, 2018 at 11:20 am #83949Billy_TParticipant
Trump fired Rex Tillerson today at State and replaced him with Mike Pompeo, who had been CIA director. Trump’s replacement for Pompeo has a very ugly history, to say the least:
From The Intercept:
Glenn Greenwald on Gina Haspel
Update: March 13, 2018
President Donald Trump nominated Gina Haspel as the new director of the CIA, announcing the news on Twitter. Mike Pompeo, the previous director, was nominated to run the State Department to replace the ousted Rex Tillerson.
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In May 2013, the Washington Post’s Greg Miller reported that the head of the CIA’s clandestine service was being shifted out of that position as a result of “a management shake-up” by then-Director John Brennan. As Miller documented, this official — whom the paper did not name because she was a covert agent at the time — was centrally involved in the worst abuses of the CIA’s Bush-era torture regime.
As Miller put it, she was “directly involved in its controversial interrogation program” and had an “extensive role” in torturing detainees. Even more troubling, she “had run a secret prison in Thailand” — part of the CIA’s network of “black sites” — “where two detainees were subjected to waterboarding and other harsh techniques.” The Senate Intelligence Committee’s report on torture also detailed the central role she played in the particularly gruesome torture of detainee Abu Zubaydah.
Beyond all that, she played a vital role in the destruction of interrogation videotapes that showed the torture of detainees both at the black site she ran and other secret agency locations. The concealment of those interrogation tapes, which violated multiple court orders as well as the demands of the 9/11 commission and the advice of White House lawyers, was condemned as “obstruction” by commission chairs Lee Hamilton and Thomas Keane. A special prosecutor and grand jury investigated those actions but ultimately chose not to prosecute.
The name of that CIA official whose torture activities the Post described is Gina Haspel. Today, as BuzzFeed’s Jason Leopold noted, CIA Director Mike Pompeo announced that Haspel was selected by Trump to be deputy director of the CIA.
This should not come as much of a surprise given that Pompeo himself has said he is open to resurrecting Bush-era torture techniques (indeed, Obama’s CIA director, John Brennan, was forced to withdraw from the running in late 2008 because of his support for some of those tactics only to be confirmed in 2013). That’s part of why it was so controversial that 14 Democrats — including their Senate leader Chuck Schumer, Dianne Feinstein, Sheldon Whitehouse, and Tim Kaine — voted to confirm Pompeo.
That Haspel was the actual subject of the 2013 Post story was an open secret. As Leopold said after I named her on Twitter as the subject of that story: “All of us who covered CIA knew. She was undercover and agency asked us not to print her name.” Gina Haspel is now slated to become the second-most powerful official at the CIA despite — or because of — the central, aggressive, sustained role she played in many of the most grotesque and shameful abuses of the war on terror.
Wikipedia has further info on Haspel. But I’m guessing this will be scrubbed and white washed very soon:
March 13, 2018 at 11:24 am #83950Billy_TParticipantQuick addendum:
It already has in part. When I first looked her up this morning, Wikipedia described her as a “war criminal,” as a part of its intro. That’s now gone.
March 13, 2018 at 12:02 pm #83956Billy_TParticipantThe Washington Post adds some further details:
A key section:
Jameel Jaffer, formerly deputy legal director of the ACLU, said Tuesday on his Twitter feed that Haspel is “quite literally a war criminal.”
March 13, 2018 at 1:37 pm #83960wvParticipantWell…..for me…The CIA itself is a terrorist organization. With a long long long history of terror, torture, assassination, lying, stealing, framing people, interfering in elections, and drug-dealing.
So does it matter who runs a Terrorist Organization?
I suppose so. But in a better world the MSM would be discussing the Organization itself instead of the musical chairs part of it.
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vMarch 13, 2018 at 3:21 pm #83967Billy_TParticipantWell…..for me…The CIA itself is a terrorist organization. With a long long long history of terror, torture, assassination, lying, stealing, framing people, interfering in elections, and drug-dealing.
So does it matter who runs a Terrorist Organization?
I suppose so. But in a better world the MSM would be discussing the Organization itself instead of the musical chairs part of it.
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vWell, we both know the media aren’t gonna do that, and we also know their tendency to leave key things out of the discussion. So, in relative terms, this is kinda refreshing, at least to me. Mainstream sources openly talking about torture programs and who ran them, and that a person who was in charge of one will now run the entire agency. They seemed to have jumped on that right away.
I suspect that prior to Trump, when the media were much more likely to be sleepy lapdogs to power, they wouldn’t have done this so quickly, if ever. Now, because of an awakening of sorts — which, of course, is still way too limited — they seem to be channeling their inner Watergate.
Who knows how this will play out? But I’m glad to see them expose what she was up to before her confirmation. It also adds more proof that Trump never had any intention of bucking the “deep state.” He just wants to make sure it works for him.
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March 13, 2018 at 4:41 pm #83971wvParticipantWell think about how contorted and twisted the MSM will have to be in order to tell ‘their’ kind of story. I mean ‘their’ kind of story always has to play up the fact that the USA is ‘good’ and them other forces are ‘bad.’
So in this case the Dem-MSM is gonna wanna go after Haspel cause she’s Trumps gal. Well ok, how are they gonna talk about her pro-torture history? Are they gonna say it was only HER that was in charge of torturing? Are they gonna say she was a ‘rogue torturer’ ? 🙂
How are they gonna cover the torture story and give it context?
I mean she was working FOR the CIA, it wasnt like she was torturing people on her own. The CIA is implicated here. Not Haspel. But the Dem-MSM will ‘have’ to ‘see’ it the other way — they’ll act like it was Haspel who is the torturer, not the good ole American CIA.
I cant even discuss the CIA anymore without ranting inside my head, Billy 🙂
Corporate-capitalism is Sauron. And the CIA is the Ring.w
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