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April 8, 2016 at 6:07 pm #41634znModerator
Giants, Packers raise objections to NFL’s plan to host games in China
The NFL appears to be set to develop a presence in China planning to have a game there in 2018.
The Los Angeles Rams are expected to be one of the teams to play in China, and NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said in March that the league has “multiple teams that are interested,” but not everybody is crazy about the idea. Executives from teams such as the Green Bay Packers and New York Giants, two of the NFL’s glamour franchises are on the record with their objections, Ashley Fox of ESPN.com reports. With so much at stake each week, there are concerns that flying half a day or more each way could put a team at a competitive disadvantage — for that game and beyond.
Packers president Mark Murphy is on the NFL’s competition committee and is not interested in his team playing in China. “We would not be in support of that,” Murphy said at the NFL owners meeting in March. “That’s such a long trip. If they do it, it would make sense for West Coast teams — shorter trip for them. But that wouldn’t be something we would want to do.”
Giants owner John Mara, who agreed to play in the first regular-season game in London, also is not interested in playing in China. “I think there’s a feeling that our game could be very attractive over there and generate a lot of interest,” Mara said. “But I’m sure not volunteering to play over there. That’s a tough trip. I don’t know how you do that. You certainly have to give them a week off afterward. And even a week before — it’s a pretty tough trip.”
April 8, 2016 at 8:06 pm #41644znModeratorI have to admit, I don’t like this whole “grow the league” riff.
I don’t even think it’s good business.
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April 8, 2016 at 10:38 pm #41657znModeratorI have to admit, I don’t like this whole “grow the league” riff.
Speak of the devil.
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Part of Rams pitch to move to Los Angeles: Creating a global platform
Vincent Bonsignore
The Rams move from St. Louis to Los Angeles was motivated by many factors, most of which were obvious from a domestically economic standpoint.
But it’s clear now an even broader vision was being formulated by Rams owner Stan Kroenke, one he expressed to fellow National Football League owners upon asking them for permission to make the move from St. Louis to L.A.
Kroenke wanted to use the platform provided by being in the second-biggest market in America to sell the Rams brand across the world.
A point Rams CEO Kevin Demoff explained in a story in the London based Guardian.
According to The Guardian: The Rams pitch mirrored the philosophy of team owner Stan Kroenke, who is also the lead shareholder of the English Premier League team Arsenal, and has long looked for ways to maximize the marketing power of that franchise with the Rams and his NBA and NHL teams in Denver. Rams management believes Los Angeles gives them an identity that is appealing around the world, conjuring images of a glamorous and important metropolis.
As Demoff explained:
“I think in Stan’s vision, Los Angeles and London are on-par as world class cities, and you can link those opportunities with the Denver opportunities for an international platform. That was the thought with Los Angeles.”
The Guardian went on to write: The Rams could not sell themselves internationally from St Louis. While some NFL franchises in smaller US markets like the Green Bay Packers and Pittsburgh Steelers are iconic names known around the world, the St Louis Rams did not resonate globally. As the Los Angeles Rams, they think they have a chance to emerge from the slurry of NFL teams and perhaps build name recognition in other countries.
Part of which explains the Rams playing a game this year in London – October 23rd against the New York Giants – and why they are expected to host three games abroad between 2016-2018 while they play at the Los Angeles Coliseum during construction of their new stadium in Inglewood.
One of those three games is expected to be in China, which brings up another factor in the move to Los Angeles.
As The Guardian points out: Both the Rams and the NFL talk about Los Angeles as a gateway to Asia. The league has long wanted to establish themselves in China, Japan and Korea, but have not had the success of their ventures in the UK primarily because they haven’t been able to play games in those countries. Nine years ago the NFL cancelled a pre-season game between Seattle and New England when logistics proved too difficult. All these years later, they believe they ready to make a push and they hope to use a Los Angeles team to do so.
Demoff pointed out that the Inglewood stadium is only four miles from Los Angeles international airport, and the most common flight path takes planes only a few blocks south of the stadium as they land. With several flights landing daily at the airport from Asia he said he imagines that the first glimpse many of those passengers will get of the US is the Rams stadium out their window.
“When they fly over they’ll say: ‘Look at that stadium,’” Demoff said.
April 8, 2016 at 10:55 pm #41658InvaderRamModeratorblarg.
April 8, 2016 at 11:47 pm #41661PA RamParticipantSo the Rams will be “Earth’s Team”. That sure beat’s the Cowboy’s “America’s Team” claim.
Of course they’ll play like garbage because they’ll be falling asleep but–you know…gotta sacrifice.
How they might look:
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
April 9, 2016 at 5:47 am #41663bnwBlockedWhat a bunch of greedy ass rubes. The Rams and Los angeles are the gateway to Asia because Inglewood is only 4 miles from the Los Angeles International Airport! It is a new level of stupidity which is stunning in scope. Should be crystal clear that winning is not a priority with StanK.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
April 9, 2016 at 7:17 am #41668TSRFParticipantbnw wrote:
What a bunch of greedy ass rubes. The Rams and Los angeles are the gateway to Asia because Inglewood is only 4 miles from the Los Angeles International Airport! It is a new level of stupidity which is stunning in scope. Should be crystal clear that winning is not a priority with StanK.This should be interesting. I disagree with your last statement; the Rams have to win if they are going to be the Face of the NFL in Asia, so Stan has to care about winning.
That being said, are they going to start winning because they have assembled a winning team, or are they going to start winning because that is how it was scripted…
April 9, 2016 at 9:37 am #41675bnwBlockedbnw wrote:
What a bunch of greedy ass rubes. The Rams and Los angeles are the gateway to Asia because Inglewood is only 4 miles from the Los Angeles International Airport! It is a new level of stupidity which is stunning in scope. Should be crystal clear that winning is not a priority with StanK.This should be interesting. I disagree with your last statement; the Rams have to win if they are going to be the Face of the NFL in Asia, so Stan has to care about winning.
That being said, are they going to start winning because they have assembled a winning team, or are they going to start winning because that is how it was scripted…
Why do the Rams have to win? Do any of StanK’s teams win? When you say scripted, do you mean that the NFL is going to make sure the Rams win? The other owners are going to intentionally degrade their product so StanK can own the lions share of Asian NFL marketing? I can’t believe that. What about two other west coast teams that have had much more recent success that are arguably as much in tune with an asian strategy as LA, namely the 49ers and Seahawks? Why would they roll over for StanK? If I was to pick a west coast city with a mind for expanding the game into asia, with an eye towards China I would have to say Vancouver considering the past two decades influx of immigrants from China.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
April 9, 2016 at 9:42 am #41677znModeratorthe Rams have to win if they are going to be the Face of the NFL in Asia, so Stan has to care about winning.
Why do the Rams have to win? Do any of StanK’s teams win?
TSRF’s point is that the Rams have to win IF they hope to become the NFL’s team in asia.
As I already said, I think this whole “grow the brand” stuff is nonsense.
April 9, 2016 at 10:08 am #41679bnwBlockedthe Rams have to win if they are going to be the Face of the NFL in Asia, so Stan has to care about winning.
Why do the Rams have to win? Do any of StanK’s teams win?
TSRF’s point is that the Rams have to win IF they hope to become the NFL’s team in asia.
As I already said, I think this whole “grow the brand” stuff is nonsense.
Sure but it was the scripted part of TSRF’s post that I disagree.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
April 10, 2016 at 1:57 pm #41726znModeratorPart of Rams pitch to move to Los Angeles: Creating a global platform
Vincent Bonsignore
The Rams move from St. Louis to Los Angeles was motivated by many factors, most of which were obvious from a domestically economic standpoint.
But it’s clear now an even broader vision was being formulated by Rams owner Stan Kroenke, one he expressed to fellow National Football League owners upon asking them for permission to make the move from St. Louis to L.A.
Kroenke wanted to use the platform provided by being in the second-biggest market in America to sell the Rams brand across the world.
A point Rams CEO Kevin Demoff explained in a story in the London based Guardian.
According to The Guardian: The Rams pitch mirrored the philosophy of team owner Stan Kroenke, who is also the lead shareholder of the English Premier League team Arsenal, and has long looked for ways to maximize the marketing power of that franchise with the Rams and his NBA and NHL teams in Denver. Rams management believes Los Angeles gives them an identity that is appealing around the world, conjuring images of a glamorous and important metropolis.
As Demoff explained:
“I think in Stan’s vision, Los Angeles and London are on-par as world class cities, and you can link those opportunities with the Denver opportunities for an international platform. That was the thought with Los Angeles.”
The Guardian went on to write: The Rams could not sell themselves internationally from St Louis. While some NFL franchises in smaller US markets like the Green Bay Packers and Pittsburgh Steelers are iconic names known around the world, the St Louis Rams did not resonate globally. As the Los Angeles Rams, they think they have a chance to emerge from the slurry of NFL teams and perhaps build name recognition in other countries.
Part of which explains the Rams playing a game this year in London – October 23rd against the New York Giants – and why they are expected to host three games abroad between 2016-2018 while they play at the Los Angeles Coliseum during construction of their new stadium in Inglewood.
One of those three games is expected to be in China, which brings up another factor in the move to Los Angeles.
As The Guardian points out: Both the Rams and the NFL talk about Los Angeles as a gateway to Asia. The league has long wanted to establish themselves in China, Japan and Korea, but have not had the success of their ventures in the UK primarily because they haven’t been able to play games in those countries. Nine years ago the NFL cancelled a pre-season game between Seattle and New England when logistics proved too difficult. All these years later, they believe they ready to make a push and they hope to use a Los Angeles team to do so.
Demoff pointed out that the Inglewood stadium is only four miles from Los Angeles international airport, and the most common flight path takes planes only a few blocks south of the stadium as they land. With several flights landing daily at the airport from Asia he said he imagines that the first glimpse many of those passengers will get of the US is the Rams stadium out their window.
“When they fly over they’ll say: ‘Look at that stadium,’” Demoff said.
April 10, 2016 at 4:13 pm #41729bnwBlockedGlobal StanK? Already akin to a pandemic. I wish he’d leave this planet for good. Perhaps on Branson’s orbiter that takes a detour to Mars? Alien abduction of hypocritical lying horrific toupe wearing government welfare recipient multi billionaire butthead?
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
April 11, 2016 at 12:51 pm #41744joemadParticipantStan wants to market his brand global… .
I am surprised how popular the NFL was / is… and how closely it’s followed in Europe….
1) Stan wants Rams fans globally
2) I think Stan wants 1 home game per year abroad because LA Memorial Col is 100 years old.
3) Once the stadium is built in Inglewood, Stan won’t pass on anymore home games… no more home games played outside of LA.- This reply was modified 8 years, 7 months ago by joemad.
April 11, 2016 at 3:11 pm #41764wvParticipantI dont think there’s anything surprising about
any of this. I just think this is the JerryJones/StanK/R.Goodell
approach to running a corporation. Ya know. The ‘new breed’
as opposed to the Rooney’s and old-breed owners.All this stuff will indeed make more money for the owners
and players and coaches.Will it make the product of Football itself better
for the fans ? I dont see how.w
vApril 11, 2016 at 5:57 pm #41767InvaderRamModeratorarsenal fans in london are furious with stan. they are asking him to step down. doesn’t seem to be present or care what happens at that club.
April 12, 2016 at 7:14 am #41786bnwBlockedarsenal fans in london are furious with stan. they are asking him to step down. doesn’t seem to be present or care what happens at that club.
Thats because StanK made bank with the move to LA. Highlights his BS about LA being on par with London, which it isn’t.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
April 12, 2016 at 12:57 pm #41789joemadParticipantarsenal fans in london are furious with stan. they are asking him to step down. doesn’t seem to be present or care what happens at that club.
I think it’s a pre-requisite for Premiere Soccer fans to be furious with everyone and everything….
Manchester United fans still bitter over Glazer takeover….
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